Board 8 > Disgaea 4 = easily the best Disgaea game yet!

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3DSRage
09/09/11 5:30:00 PM
#1:


Everything about it is great! Adds a bunch of new gameplay elements and improves the already stable Disgaea formula :D

I am loving it! How are you loving it, B8?
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TheRock1525
09/09/11 5:33:00 PM
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I haven't bought it yet.

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Ayuyu
09/09/11 5:34:00 PM
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I'll get it like Tuesday thanks to ****ty Amazon.

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Ness26
09/09/11 5:35:00 PM
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Curious -- have they changed the AI at all? In previous Disgaea games if you were out of range of enemies they'd just sit there until you came close. Kinda was silly.

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3DSRage
09/09/11 5:37:00 PM
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If an enemy can't hit anyone it won't move. In some cases they do, but it seems only in special circumstances they do!
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DomaDragoon
09/09/11 5:39:00 PM
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Even though I haven't played it (and don't even have my PS3 hooked up at the moment), I love it.

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Xiahou Shake
09/09/11 5:50:00 PM
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It's stuck in the mail for me, it should get here Monday maybe.
That said, I'm only on like chapter 4 of the first Disgaea, and I'd really like to at least finish that first! Hopefully it doesn't take a billion hours just to get the essential stuff done. >_>

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Ness26
09/09/11 6:03:00 PM
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From: 3DSRage | #006
If an enemy can't hit anyone it won't move. In some cases they do, but it seems only in special circumstances they do!


Aw, that's pretty sad. I love Disgaea's out of combat stuff (so. much. stuff.), but the actual combat seemed like it could be better.

Either way, I don't have a PS3 so this is doesn't really matter!

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the icon ownz all
09/09/11 6:06:00 PM
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From: Ness26 | #009
Aw, that's pretty sad. I love Disgaea's out of combat stuff (so. much. stuff.), but the actual combat seemed like it could be better.

Either way, I don't have a PS3 so this is doesn't really matter!


Will you have a Vita in Q4 2013?


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agesboy
09/11/11 12:39:00 AM
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By far the most obsessed I've ever been in a Disgaea game! Skipped 3 since I just got a PS3 but eh.

Someone should totally duel me if they're around my level. 38 Valvatorez, everyone else around 30~. PSN: Aluvial. :D

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EDumey
09/11/11 10:57:00 AM
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So uh, this has probably been asked in other D4 topics that I haven't bothered to check in, but can I play the game without having played any previous installments? I think I can get my hands on the first Disgaea, but from all the praise this fourth game gets, I'd kinda like to just skip straight to it.

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Paratroopa1
09/11/11 11:04:00 AM
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Does Disgaea 4 take a dump on the face of common sense like I was promised?
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Wanglicious
09/11/11 11:19:00 AM
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i'll get one of the updated versions down the road, but looks fantastic.

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tcaz2
09/11/11 11:29:00 AM
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From: EDumey | #012
So uh, this has probably been asked in other D4 topics that I haven't bothered to check in, but can I play the game without having played any previous installments? I think I can get my hands on the first Disgaea, but from all the praise this fourth game gets, I'd kinda like to just skip straight to it.



Yeah, you can. There are a couple cameos but that's it, the story is never connected.

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jck4332
09/11/11 11:36:00 AM
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I still preferred the first on PSP.

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agesboy
09/11/11 3:05:00 PM
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Finally figured out the main point of duels. If you defeat someone, you get a transmitter that summons their pirates to your pirate world to aid you. How long they stay depends on how decent their ship is. Not sure what most of the ship stats mean except for capacity and length though x_x

Also, has anyone managed to get any bond other than Lover? Lover's easy if you make your healer a leader, but the others.. argh. Especially Twin. Thought you had to fight 10 battles or stand beside each other 10 times wearing the same stuff, but I haven't gotten it yet.

Up to chapter five now, btw. This game just keeps getting better and better. Fuka and Desco top tier.

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KommunistKoala
09/11/11 3:08:00 PM
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Augh I was doing item world last night and I went into a mystery room to fight a Lvl 20 dragon guarding 2 chests. I opened one with a prinny bow and figured I would get the other on my next turn, but then I killed the damn thing before I could get a second turn :_;. I didn't think I was that strong augh

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agesboy
09/11/11 3:26:00 PM
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Yeah those guys are weak as hell if you're not doing an item on par with your levels D: get two gunners and shoot both chests first turn, imo.

Isn't it just two fusion'd dragons, I guess?

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agesboy
09/11/11 7:16:00 PM
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51 Valvatorez get. Lance is a fun weapon :D

Protip: Fusion'd Desco is goddamn amazing. Anyone know when you get Yog Sogoth, though? >_>

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Pirateking2000
09/11/11 9:14:00 PM
#21:


beat normal ending ON TO POSTGAME!!!!

<beats first level of postgame>

"Well this isn't that bad"

<begin second level>

<boss of that map hits me for 20,000>

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Natwaf_akidna
09/11/11 9:22:00 PM
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Anybody fought Zetta yet? Curious about the cutscene.

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Pirateking2000
09/11/11 9:26:00 PM
#23:


not yet getting my ass kicked by Flonne's love

need to figure out the base stuff so I can find a way to max out everyone + get all max rank allies (highest level class versions I mean)

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Weakupedia
09/13/11 8:58:00 AM
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can i use flonne

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KommunistKoala
09/13/11 9:14:00 AM
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From: Weakupedia | #105
can i use flonne


Post game I believe you can

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Shadowwolf1015
09/13/11 12:30:00 PM
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Yes, Santa, but I think when you buy something s/he moves to your base.
At least that's what happened to my roommate.

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rocket157
09/14/11 4:27:00 PM
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Santa: Your first run-in with the Music Shopkeeper is in the Item World. If you talk to her, you'll get a bill in the Senate to get her at your base when you leave the Item World.


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Pram_the_Oracle
09/15/11 9:24:00 AM
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Man that's unlucky.

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3DSRage
09/15/11 9:46:00 AM
#33:


YOu guys are slaying me!

I am just near the end of Chapter 3. I think I m trying to level too many characters because now I seem at a disadvantage during every level. What are some good tips at this point in the game?
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Pirateking2000
09/15/11 9:47:00 AM
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^ I think there are some early grinding maps but don't think any of em are really worth it till later

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rocket157
09/15/11 3:58:00 PM
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I'm on like 10-4ish. At this point, I've started power-leveling instead of finishing the main story. Valvatorez is Lvl. 200 and Desco is 250ish. Everyone else is in the 125-175 range.

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agesboy
09/15/11 5:46:00 PM
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I'm powerlevelling too, Desco's 250's for me but Val's only 150. Just started... uh... well, the one after Fuka gets her storyline attack.

Cave of Ordeals ftw, b****es.

I am just near the end of Chapter 3. I think I m trying to level too many characters because now I seem at a disadvantage during every level. What are some good tips at this point in the game?

5-2 is the best training map; send a guy with 5 movement to the right, chuck the block to the left, destroy it, and then eat everything alive with... a party member you don't have yet probably >__>

Uhh, before then... powerlevel Val, boost your healer's Heal spell to where it becomes AoE, learn to cancel movement so you always get Fen's Evility active (+30% to all stats for standing next to Val is no joke at all)...

Easy way to get more experience; lower two monsters to near death. Throw one onto the other. Their levels will be combined so you'll get exponentially more experience, but their health will still be low.

Use skills as much as you can, it'll make them more powerful in the long run.

Magichange and Fusion gives experience for all parties involved; it's a great way to level monsters. The base monster in fusion gets their skill attack radius expanded and a human gets more skills with a magichanged monster.

Pass the More Expensive bill every time you can, there's almost no reason not to. Early on, it just diversifies your selection in goods.

When training, ALWAYS make sure whoever you're training (probably Val now, later on it'll be the other party member) is on both the training grounds and mana pyramid evil symbols. You'll be glad you did!

An easy way to get level 1 party members a few levels is to bring them out right before a match ends and you have a decent bonus gauge going. They'll get any +exp bonuses.

Go into the item world up to about level 11 of any item and you'll run into some pirates. Defeat them, Gency out (or go to level 20), and you can pass a bill which gives you pirates. Dunno if you've already got them unlocked, but I know people who've beat the main story and never got them, so just throwing it out there >__>

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agesboy
09/15/11 10:41:00 PM
#37:


well, that was an overly ridiculous final battle in more ways than one

onto the postgame!

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Natwaf_akidna
09/15/11 10:42:00 PM
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Nobody fought Zetta yet?

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Shadowwolf1015
09/15/11 11:02:00 PM
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Zetta is level 4000 that's all I know, also I found the most fun way to powerlevel early game is the item world, just level up your accessories/armor or items if you want to transfer innocents from them to your armor/weapons. When in the item world, kill the innocents you run into, and enter into the mystery rooms, but when in the mystery rooms, if you talk to anyone multiple times at one time (usually 2-3 times) they'll attack you, so be careful.

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Natwaf_akidna
09/15/11 11:05:00 PM
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If it's like D2DHD, making them attack you and winning gives bonus levels for the item, right? Also, some rooms ambush you anyway, IIRC.

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agesboy
09/16/11 1:28:00 AM
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grind 80~ levels and get my highest character to 90 and my prinny to prinny god

accidentally select the wrong stage

die horribly with one enemy left that did 18k with one skill

sob

(also, I got a level 1 skull mage when I used my red phone, joy!)

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agesboy
09/16/11 4:52:00 PM
#42:


Holy s***, Mt. Ordeal 4.

O______o

WELL WORTH THE TERRIBLE THIRD STAGE

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Natwaf_akidna
09/16/11 4:53:00 PM
#43:


The ultimate leveling map?

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agesboy
09/16/11 4:59:00 PM
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I think I went from level 380 to something like 450 the first time I did it. It even leaves two guys so you can get lower levels up to non-s*** status. This is just amazing.

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Rad Link 5
09/16/11 5:07:00 PM
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Still haven't bought it, but I plan to.

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agesboy
09/16/11 5:21:00 PM
#46:


Is there any downside to reincarnating a story character at level 1 repeatedly if you're using Genius? I know you get bonus aptitude. >_>

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Rad Link 5
09/16/11 5:23:00 PM
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Assuming it's anything like the previous games, just the fact that you have to grind back up.

But if you're reincarnating from a high enough level, you'll probably have higher stats long before you even reach your old level again.

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3DSRage
09/16/11 9:49:00 PM
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5-2... you sure that's the one?
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rocket157
09/16/11 9:51:00 PM
#49:


3DSRage posted...
5-2... you sure that's the one?

Yep. If you're just seeing it for the first time, it'll be different when you replay it. It's a grindfest when you do.


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agesboy
09/17/11 12:03:00 AM
#50:


Dual giant magichange is so good.

Finally hitting in the 100k+'s now!

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