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Bigwig_rah
09/06/11 9:46:00 PM
#101:


GenesisTwilight posted...
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I actually had something very similar to that for my GBC. I honestly don't know what I was thinking. At least it had a light on it.


I had that same GBC one you're talking about, I think it was called a Superpack. I used it like, once.

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/06/11 9:47:00 PM
#102:


So, I won't get my hopes up, but how does the 3DS handle downloaded games? Is it tied to an account or the system?

Basically, in the event of a redesign (or freak accident, whatever) could you transfer games to a new system?

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GuessMyUserName
09/06/11 9:47:00 PM
#103:


From: GenesisTwilight | Posted: 9/7/2011 12:45:13 AM | #100
I actually had something very similar to that for my GBC. I honestly don't know what I was thinking. At least it had a light on it.


I believe I had the same thing

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TheOceIot
09/06/11 9:48:00 PM
#104:


Ugh, they should have just had two sticks from the beginning. That add-on looks really dumb.

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SHINE GET 64
09/06/11 9:49:00 PM
#105:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
So, I won't get my hopes up, but how does the 3DS handle downloaded games? Is it tied to an account or the system?

Basically, in the event of a redesign (or freak accident, whatever) could you transfer games to a new system?



tied to the system, but there's an app you can download in the eshop that allows you to do a one time transfer to a new system

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GuessMyUserName
09/06/11 9:50:00 PM
#106:


From: SHINE GET 64 | Posted: 9/7/2011 12:49:22 AM | #105
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
So, I won't get my hopes up, but how does the 3DS handle downloaded games? Is it tied to an account or the system?

Basically, in the event of a redesign (or freak accident, whatever) could you transfer games to a new system?



tied to the system, but there's an app your download in the eshop that allows you to do a one time transfer to a new system


the DSi had to be downloaded from DSiWare, but I'm pretty sure the 3DS app is built-in (well you had to system update for it)

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SHINE GET 64
09/06/11 9:52:00 PM
#107:


well whatever

it's there in some capacity

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SnoicFactor
09/06/11 9:52:00 PM
#108:


so I can transfer my ambassador status to another 3ds?

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Wanglicious
09/06/11 9:52:00 PM
#109:


'one time transfer' for now at least. when they redesign it legit they'll just go along with it.
but good to know it adds L2 and R2 legit as that'd explain the bulk on that. two buttons, an analog, and extra battery would make me pretty happy with it honestly, despite that hideous look (though i can't see it be uncomfortable at all, just looks weird). a redesign a year away for next Christmas makes sense. but not this year, not even in the next 6 months. and it'd probably have something to do with the Wii U as well.

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ZFS
09/06/11 9:55:00 PM
#110:


The online situation with the 3DS sounds like a disaster. Charging for demos and attaching downloads to systems is bad news.

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StealThisSheen
09/06/11 9:59:00 PM
#111:


ZFS posted...
The online situation with the 3DS sounds like a disaster. Charging for demos and attaching downloads to systems is bad news.


Wait, charging for demos what.



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Wanglicious
09/06/11 10:00:00 PM
#112:


they don't really assume you're gonna change off the system right now because... why would you. if you have a 3DS you're kinda with a 3DS. they'll allow you to transfer it when they make later versions just fine. and... i don't think we've even had a demo yet. <_<;

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ZFS
09/06/11 10:00:00 PM
#113:


Does it not? GMUN mentioned earlier that Nintendo doesn't allow third-parties to put content on the online store for free, so Capcom and Konami had to charge $2 for their demos. That's all sorts of crazy.

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SHINE GET 64
09/06/11 10:02:00 PM
#114:


there are no demos yet in the US at least. Supposed to be announced that we'll be getting some at TGS, but I fully expect those to be free.

maybe in Japan but that's the same country that charges subscription fees for Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest X

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ZFS
09/06/11 10:05:00 PM
#115:


I don't think that would be exclusive to Japan if those series were popular in Western countries.

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TheKoolAidShoto
09/06/11 10:06:00 PM
#116:


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Wanglicious
09/06/11 10:07:00 PM
#117:


oh. demo fees in Japan maybe. Nintendo has allowed free stuff online just fine far as i can tell. the only demo i can think of that we were GOING to get was MML3 Prototype. and that was Capcom being dicks saying 'we're going to charge you lol'

and then they just canceled instead. master trolls.


can't see us paying for any demos though. especially if they're gonna put some of their own on there for free, or provide free games like... they already have. they want to move systems, so don't know why they'd charge for that.

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GuessMyUserName
09/06/11 10:07:00 PM
#118:


From: ZFS | Posted: 9/7/2011 1:00:41 AM | #113
Does it not? GMUN mentioned earlier that Nintendo doesn't allow third-parties to put content on the online store for free, so Capcom and Konami had to charge $2 for their demos. That's all sorts of crazy.


yep

well, Konami didn't want to put out a demo, they wanted to put out an app to allow people to transfer their saves from Love Plus to New Love Plus

but yeah, they're making Capcom price their Nazo demo for 2 bucks


though I have no doubt that it's a temporary restriction that Nintendo will eventually remove - but yeah, it's still completely stupid for such a restriction to exist in the first place

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GuessMyUserName
09/06/11 10:09:00 PM
#119:


From: Wanglicious | Posted: 9/7/2011 1:07:42 AM | #117
Nintendo has allowed free stuff online just fine far as i can tell.


Nintendo can - third parties can't.

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SHINE GET 64
09/06/11 10:10:00 PM
#120:


there must be some sort of reason for it. 3rd party demos go up on WiiWare all the time

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Wanglicious
09/06/11 10:12:00 PM
#121:


that is one weird ass decision they got going there. but that def wouldn't fly anywhere outside japan.

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GuessMyUserName
09/06/11 10:13:00 PM
#122:


From: SHINE GET 64 | Posted: 9/7/2011 1:10:02 AM | #120
3rd party demos go up on WiiWare all the time


on the other hand, Nintendo didn't allow that until 4 years after the Wii came out. Although to be fair, WiiWare didn't exist until year 2

also, remember the first time Nintendo put up demos? they only offered demos to be downloaded for like 1 month then took them down, and it wasn't until many months later until they put demos back up for good


just because something doesn't make sense, doesn't mean Nintendo wouldn't do it >_>

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TheKoolAidShoto
09/06/11 10:15:00 PM
#123:


I'm getting a Sega kind of vibe from Nintendo these days. All these crazy ass price drops and 20 something games and now Sega CD looking attachments that just confuses consumers and fractures the userbase. This is pretty damn dumb from a consumer point of view!

But hey, Monster Hunter, right?

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Wanglicious
09/06/11 10:21:00 PM
#124:


....price drops and giving free games are... bad for consumers?
HOW.

like the ONLY thing you can really say that might be bad for consumers that they've done is this device, and that's without us knowing a damn thing about it beyond it has an analog and is a cradle. we don't know how heavy it is, the material, how it works, if it does other things (it took us how long to figure out if the R2 was an R2 and that it even had an L2), or anything about it. we don't know their plans with it, but based on what they did with earlier stuff that's similar it gets packaged with something else. Wii Play. Link's Crossbow Training. Monster Hunter Tri (boy that's familiar!). their upcoming Zelda Wii game. Wii Sports Resort. all that says one VERY clear thing about them - they know how to package hardware with software damn well.

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paperwarior
09/06/11 10:27:00 PM
#125:


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TheKoolAidShoto
09/06/11 10:41:00 PM
#126:


From: Wanglicious | #124
....price drops and giving free games are... bad for consumers?
HOW.

like the ONLY thing you can really say that might be bad for consumers that they've done is this device, and that's without us knowing a damn thing about it beyond it has an analog and is a cradle. we don't know how heavy it is, the material, how it works, if it does other things (it took us how long to figure out if the R2 was an R2 and that it even had an L2), or anything about it. we don't know their plans with it, but based on what they did with earlier stuff that's similar it gets packaged with something else. Wii Play. Link's Crossbow Training. Monster Hunter Tri (boy that's familiar!). their upcoming Zelda Wii game. Wii Sports Resort. all that says one VERY clear thing about them - they know how to package hardware with software damn well.


This is a handheld.
The controls are the system.

Down the line, after the revision comes out and these extra controls are standard, it's gonna suck to play some games on original systems. Well, unless I have that bulky plastic mess. If you were an early ambassador, you overpaid for something that dropped an unprecedented amount in 6 months and got a bunch of roms to show for it. All these constant moves and changes just shows a company that isn't confident in its product. 6 months later and Nintendo is flailing their arms in the air. It's incredibly short-sighted on a scale I don't think I've ever seen Nintendo be.

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Xiahou Shake
09/06/11 11:07:00 PM
#127:


Well, I'd rather have this than have my current model become outdated.
At the same time, this whole thing seems rather silly.

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YetAnothrShadow
09/06/11 11:12:00 PM
#128:


So I just compared that pic to an actual sized 3DS and tbh, it really doesn't look as bulky when put into prospective. It'll add maybe a couple inches total to the systems length.

And for someone with such massive hands like myself, that's actually pretty good sounding.

I'll withhold judgment until I try it out. although I will say that the joynub looks to be in a rather awkward position.

EDIT: Actually. I retract my statement. I didn't notice it added bulk to the back of the system aswell.

Now I'm a little less interested.

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GuessMyUserName
09/07/11 1:52:00 AM
#129:


adding bulk to the back doesn't bother me - I actually like holding my 3DS in its charging cradle, I actually find it more comfortable than with out, L/R buttons even feel better to hold


main comfort issue I see with this is symmetry

I mean, the right side is just stretched out

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transience
09/07/11 2:47:00 AM
#130:


that's actually a thousand times better than I was expecting

which should tell you how bad I was expecting it to be

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YetAnothrShadow
09/07/11 2:52:00 AM
#131:


Guys.

Serebii ( From Serebii.net, who has been known to read Japanese very well) just posted on Kotaku that the article that thing appears in notes that the beast isn't being made by Nintendo, but by Capcom (Probably with help from Nintendo) exclusively for Monster Hunter.

Don't expect us to be stuck with this thing for everything. Just Monster Hunter it seems.

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StealThisSheen
09/07/11 3:10:00 AM
#132:


To be honest, I wouldn't mind if other games gave you the OPTION to use it in place of stylus control where applicable.



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neoneaper
09/07/11 4:09:00 AM
#133:


hey look who was right the entire time

suck

it

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neoneaper
09/07/11 4:14:00 AM
#134:


and yeah if this comes packaged with a game worth playing I will probably end up buying it so... my warning meant nothing, I'm knee deep in quicksand

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neonreaper
09/07/11 6:45:00 AM
#135:


oh god when you haven't sleep in five days and you start mixing Swamp Song lyrics with 3DS peripherals, it makes for some terrible posts

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SHINE GET 64
09/07/11 6:52:00 AM
#136:


wait a minute


topic title says rumours


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GranzonEx
09/07/11 6:55:00 AM
#137:


Why are people so opposed to this...? Two sticks is the norm. There will be a redesign, and you can bet this isn't just a MH thing. The 3DS is capable of rendering 3D worlds with movable cameras, like MGS3. This expansion is just going to be the precursor to the real deal. Stop being in denial.
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SnoicFactor
09/07/11 7:07:00 AM
#138:


The 3ds feels small to me, so adding a bit doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that this pretty much confirms an earlier than expected redesign.

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ZFS
09/07/11 10:19:00 AM
#139:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
Don't expect us to be stuck with this thing for everything. Just Monster Hunter it seems.

Huh? This is an official add-on made by Nintendo, it isn't just for Monster Hunter.

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WazzupGenius00
09/07/11 10:21:00 AM
#140:


Some are saying that the article says this thing was actually made by Capcom

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ctesjbuvf
09/07/11 10:22:00 AM
#141:


Just saw this here today: http://kotaku.com/5837814/crazy-rumor-nintendo-3ds-is-actually-getting-a-second-analog-slider-add+on-for-new-portable-monster-hunter

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ZFS
09/07/11 10:30:00 AM
#142:


Capcom comments on the device in the article, but it isn't made by them.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/nintendo-confirms-3ds-joypad-add-on/084354

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Jeff Zero
09/07/11 10:37:00 AM
#143:


Doesn't look all that strange to me.

I should talk to Serebii again sometime. He and I are Stargate buds.

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GuessMyUserName
09/08/11 6:23:00 PM
#144:


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Dauntless Hunter
09/09/11 12:33:00 AM
#145:


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Fits right in your pocket!

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GuessMyUserName
09/09/11 2:38:00 PM
#146:


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WazzupGenius00
09/09/11 2:40:00 PM
#147:


So . . . is that a mockup of what the 3DS should have been, or is this like a leaked image of what they're about to reveal before TGS

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09/09/11 2:43:00 PM
#148:


mock "3DS XL"

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