Board 8 > Lopen's kanji learning quest topic... FUNSHINE TURBO...?

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Lopen
10/07/11 7:17:00 PM
#101:


Card Maturity
Mature cards: 193 (5.7%)
Young cards: 354 (10.5%)
Unseen cards: 2840 (83.9%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (3 of 3)
Young cards: 90.8% (1690 of 1862)
First-seen cards: 90.1% (493 of 547)

May start ramping back cards a wee tad, at least temporarily. Retention rate is starting to go down a bit and I'm getting a build up to the point where I'm spending 2 hours. That may be because I've been missing more than one day a week then going for the double up, so we'll see if it continues to be an issue with a few days in a row with only 24 hours between reps and no double batching.

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Lopen
10/09/11 3:49:00 AM
#102:


Bump for now. And now I realize I'm doing an every other day situation again tomorrow. Bleh. This is not how I wanted to "ramp back!" Whatever I'll do better next week.

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sephsblade
10/09/11 9:34:00 AM
#103:


do it now or dmc will eat you

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meisnewbie
10/09/11 9:43:00 AM
#104:


Also you need to start setting a goal for the times where you do Renshyuu or tae kim's grammar practice.

EVEN IF IT MEANS BLOWING OFF CASTLEVANIA

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Lopen
10/09/11 9:44:00 AM
#105:


Blow off Castlevania surely you jest

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sephsblade
10/09/11 10:08:00 AM
#106:


yeah man that's going a little too far!

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Lopen
10/10/11 2:51:00 AM
#107:


There was no blowing off Castlevania, but cards got done. I'll think about setting a goal on that grammar/tae kim stuff tomorrow.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 208 (6.1%)
Young cards: 359 (10.6%)
Unseen cards: 2820 (83.3%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (6 of 6)
Young cards: 91.3% (1842 of 2017)
First-seen cards: 90.5% (513 of 567)

Random comment... I didn't need a mnemonic for exceed/go over, because I saw "summon" and "run" and all I could think of is Dormammu's excessive "I SUMMON THE POWER... RUN... RUN... RUN" from Marvel vs Capcom 3. Well now I just have to remember him using the move on Margaret CHOU and I'm good. (whoever the hell that is)

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Lopen
10/11/11 6:14:00 AM
#108:


Time to sleep.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 224 (6.6%)
Young cards: 363 (10.7%)
Unseen cards: 2800 (82.7%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (8 of 8)
Young cards: 91.5% (1928 of 2106)
First-seen cards: 90.8% (533 of 587)

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meisnewbie
10/11/11 8:51:00 AM
#109:


Done with Rizu's route.

I should probably record my progress through kanji damage. Aiming for about 25 cards per weekday on the site.

On 600 right now, "Whittle Down"

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sephsblade
10/12/11 12:51:00 PM
#110:


I used getter robo, terry pratchett and cats for far too many mnemonics!


Kanji: 1812 now


Pubs: The VN:
Lines: 50
Lines without TA: 1 (not counting "ah")
Lines screwed up: 4 (3 subject confusion- one with a little grammar confusion to go- and one sorta idiomatic)

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meisnewbie
10/12/11 9:29:00 PM
#111:


WHERE IS THIS TAE KIM GOAL

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Lopen
10/13/11 2:01:00 AM
#112:


Card Maturity
Mature cards: 236 (7.0%)
Young cards: 371 (11.0%)
Unseen cards: 2780 (82.1%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (10 of 10)
Young cards: 91.7% (2025 of 2208)
First-seen cards: 91.1% (553 of 607)

Hmmm... alright, Tae Kim... let's see. Gonna actually look at the layout of the site tomorrow then set a goal, that makes sense. So first goal will be, look at Tae Kim site in detail tomorrow. Which will be done. But going to sleep now.

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sephsblade
10/13/11 12:13:00 PM
#113:


Eustia:

3 lines screwed, grammar and subject nonsense

10,000 sentences:

Mature cards: 86 (15.3%)
Young cards: 345 (61.3%)
Unseen cards: 132 (23.4%)
(man I'm adding new sentences much faster than I can do them- but I'm already going too slow in Eustia, and not adding a sentence makes my OCD itch ITCH)

Mature cards: 100.0% (16 of 16)
Young cards: 93.7% (2216 of 2364)
First-seen cards: 72.1% (173 of 240) (thanks tae kim grammar)

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Lopen
10/14/11 3:22:00 AM
#114:


Anyway I looked them up. Goal will be to get through basic grammar by this weekend (I did some of it today), and essential grammar and special expressions by next weekend, and the rest the weekend after that... all the while reviewing the previous stuff, and maybe checking out renshuu in the meantime. Actually let's just say an hour every two days minimum to help cement that this will happen. I don't like "time based" goals but what can you do. And I guess I'll log "progress" on that in here too.

I'm not even sure how I should study them aside from just... going over them repeatedly. How inefficient. I guess I could make a Anki deck for them but that seems like it'll be more trouble than it's worth.

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Lopen
10/15/11 4:21:00 AM
#115:


I intended to do some grammar tonight but the Anki decided to be cute and throw a double lesson at me because "???" Like I was just about done with 150 reviews and 20 new cards, and then all of a sudden I have 20 new cards and 80 reviews to go. I could've just stopped I guess, but that would be letting it win. Also I didn't do cards yesterday so it's not all bad.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 255 (7.5%)
Young cards: 392 (11.6%)
Unseen cards: 2740 (80.9%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (22 of 22)
Young cards: 92.1% (2222 of 2412)
First-seen cards: 91.5% (592 of 647)

Will hammer down a lot of grammar tomorrow. If I don't then you can start worrying.

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Lopen
10/16/11 4:29:00 AM
#116:


Didn't do much, but don't worry much. Will get more work done tomorrow.

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ToukaOone
10/16/11 11:28:00 PM
#117:


Right

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Mac Arrowny
10/17/11 1:14:00 AM
#118:


Yay, playing VNs full screen more of the time now. Makes things more fun. (Majikoi's the main thing I'm playing right now).

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Lopen
10/17/11 4:08:00 AM
#119:


Yeah that didn't work out. I was busy most of the day and then I didn't really feel like doing it when I was done with things.

Dat Castlevania screwing everything up.

Anyway uhhh I think I need a more rigid guideline for this. Unfortunately I don't really know what to do. "Daily" is kinda more than I want to do given that the cards are regularly taking two hours these days. Weekendly scheduling isn't a good thing. I also don't much like time based goals I like goal based goals. So I dunno. How about you suggest a plan for tackling grammar stuff, newbie, since you seem to be so frustrated at my slacking off in that department! Or someone else who's reading can. READER INTERACTION TIME.

I think I'll be more likely to follow something you suggest than something I suggest here, is all I'm saying. <_<

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meisnewbie
10/17/11 8:13:00 AM
#120:


If Castlevania is blocking stuff, commit to finishing cards/doing grammar before you start. You probably should aim to do grammar before cards as I think you're far enough in that you're not likely to give up on cards; obviously this is pending like a day or two in the future.

You should probably aim to only read and focus on one or two grammatical points per day. Just make sure you learn them well, because you're far more likely to screw up one or two specific points repeatedly rather than 10 points a little bit and devoting a lot of time to individual grammatical rules would be to your advantage.

Also I don't know if you're making a habit out of doing anki cards once every two days but that's probably why you're spending 2 hours on it <_<. I hope you're not doing anything else while going through the decks though (even music!); It like doubles your time and lowers your retention by a bunch.

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sephsblade
10/17/11 9:35:00 AM
#121:


especiallly bakari

study it well it means like three different things

also man I always do cards on a run/at the gym AND while listening to music

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Mac Arrowny
10/17/11 11:33:00 AM
#122:


Yeah, doing cards exclusively on their own would be pretty painful...

From: sephsblade | #121
especiallly bakari


bakari's pretty irritating with the "iwanbakari" style. Still don't quite get that one (with other words). Got a link to the page that explains it?

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Lopen
10/17/11 12:03:00 PM
#123:


I don't mind doing cards on their own and that's how I usually do them, though sometimes I'll have the TV or music on. I don't notice a huge decline in efficiency that way. But yeah I guess doing cards when I'm A. Tired, B. Missed a day many times lately has been causing the time taken to go up.

Anyway I'll try the "one Tae Kim a day" approach for now, and see how long I can stick with it. Just gonna start back at the beginning since I didn't do much anyway and I might've glossed over a bit more than I should've.

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sephsblade
10/17/11 12:24:00 PM
#124:


remember follow everything with desu and start everything with watashi wa


(don't)

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Lopen
10/17/11 12:28:00 PM
#125:


Man I knew that much coming in.

Though what I didn't know is apparently you're supposed to say boku or something instead of watashi if you're a real man and need the watashi around. Or some other manly "I" that I forget.

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Mac Arrowny
10/17/11 12:46:00 PM
#126:


ore-sama the only option

wareware and waga are also choices, however

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ToukaOone
10/17/11 12:50:00 PM
#127:


Oh also it's not one per day more like at least one per day.

Running/walking with the cards is fine (and in fact might promote retention!) but music seems to be bad.

I do mine on the bus so!

Also currently at 795 on kanjidamage.

37 young cards left

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sephsblade
10/18/11 2:48:00 AM
#128:


wagahai surely

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Lopen
10/18/11 4:28:00 AM
#129:


Card Maturity
Mature cards: 271 (8.0%)
Young cards: 396 (11.7%)
Unseen cards: 2720 (80.3%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (30 of 30)
Young cards: 92.4% (2367 of 2562)
First-seen cards: 91.8% (612 of 667)

And yeah I actually did start Tae Kim's thing. I slacked off with it and only did the minimal one section... though I did like, physically write out the answers to the first few questions in a couple of the exercises a few times to help really drive the conjugations into my head. And to be fair I had like 180 cards to do today since I missed a couple of days. I'll probably do more than one section tomorrow assuming it's not a lot more complicated. (And just for the record I did the Japanese stuff hours ago so I wasn't tired as hell doing it for once. Yay?)

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Lopen
10/19/11 4:16:00 AM
#130:


Card Maturity
Mature cards: 280 (8.3%)
Young cards: 407 (12.0%)
Unseen cards: 2700 (79.7%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (32 of 32)
Young cards: 92.5% (2435 of 2632)
First-seen cards: 92.0% (632 of 687)

Did the bare minimum on Tae Kim today, even though I knew everything that was on today's lesson except the ga/wa differentiation. (Strange that this was never brought up in the Japanese classes I took considering it seems to be a pretty basic thing. Or maybe it was and it just wasn't explained well and I forgot, I dunno)

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Lopen
10/20/11 2:50:00 PM
#131:


Oh yeah, forgot to update this last night

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 287 (8.5%)
Young cards: 420 (12.4%)
Unseen cards: 2680 (79.1%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (35 of 35)
Young cards: 92.6% (2513 of 2715)
First-seen cards: 91.9% (650 of 707)

Again did the bare minimum on Tae Kim, but that's okay because this lesson was kind of a lot to digest anyway. I think it'll be very helpful though as recognizing the format of adjectives was kind of a significant stopping point for me as there's no obvious particle to break the sentence up with them. It's like, you know, a mishmosh of hiragana and they run straight into the word they're describing. Did the examples for this one too just to help me remember.

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Lopen
10/22/11 12:39:00 AM
#132:


200 cards today and taking a break during in the middle cause I don't wanna sit around for 2 hours doing cards. I checked out the verb stuff but I actually remembered that stuff. I may do another lesson before sleeping, or I may just do the verb practice exercises just to make sure I got em. Will update card counts before sleeping when I finish but don't wanna risk this purging.

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Lopen
10/22/11 4:38:00 AM
#133:


I started doing it again, thing dumped like 80 more cards on me again-- I guess it reloads cards for the day around this time. Anyway whatever I'm just going to do them tomorrow when I wake up. Progress for now.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 308 (9.1%)
Young cards: 399 (11.8%)
Unseen cards: 2680 (79.1%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (55 of 55)
Young cards: 92.7% (2618 of 2823)
First-seen cards: 91.9% (650 of 707)

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ToukaOone
10/22/11 2:25:00 PM
#134:


My phone's internet has been knocked out so my progress going through kanjidamage has been slowed.

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Mac Arrowny
10/22/11 2:33:00 PM
#135:


From: Lopen | #133
I started doing it again, thing dumped like 80 more cards on me again-- I guess it reloads cards for the day around this time.


You can set when the day starts. It's 4 AM for me, IIRC.

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Lopen
10/22/11 6:22:00 PM
#136:


Ah, good to know. I should set it to like 8am since that's one of the few times of the day I don't imagine myself ever doing cards.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 309 (9.1%)
Young cards: 418 (12.3%)
Unseen cards: 2660 (78.5%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (55 of 55)
Young cards: 92.8% (2749 of 2962)
First-seen cards: 91.7% (667 of 727)

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Lopen
10/24/11 3:41:00 AM
#137:


Slacked on Tae Kim today. Still need to get into a better rhythm with that. On the plus side I've snapped the every other day stuff with the cards.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 315 (9.3%)
Young cards: 432 (12.8%)
Unseen cards: 2640 (77.9%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (59 of 59)
Young cards: 92.7% (2803 of 3025)
First-seen cards: 92.0% (687 of 747)

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Lopen
10/25/11 5:07:00 AM
#138:


Did this hours ago but forgot to update. Now too tired for any depth.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 318 (9.4%)
Young cards: 449 (13.3%)
Unseen cards: 2620 (77.4%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (63 of 63)
Young cards: 92.7% (2871 of 3096)
First-seen cards: 92.2% (707 of 767)

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Lopen
10/26/11 3:34:00 AM
#139:


Same story as yesterday.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 328 (9.7%)
Young cards: 459 (13.6%)
Unseen cards: 2600 (76.8%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (65 of 65)
Young cards: 92.9% (3011 of 3241)
First-seen cards: 92.1% (725 of 787)

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Lopen
10/27/11 8:15:00 PM
#140:


Took a break yesterday. Haven't done Tae Kim yet. Going to do a mega session of it today or tomorrow and going to try to review/do all the beginner sections cause I've missed more days than I'd like.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 343 (10.1%)
Young cards: 464 (13.7%)
Unseen cards: 2580 (76.2%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (72 of 72)
Young cards: 93.1% (3188 of 3424)
First-seen cards: 92.1% (743 of 807)

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meisnewbie
10/29/11 9:50:00 AM
#141:


Card Maturity
Mature cards: 3336 (98.4%)
Young cards: 53 (1.6%)
Unseen cards: 0 (0%)


lol

853 on Kanjidamage my internet went out and there was a two day stretch where the site crashed. Getting back on track.

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Lopen
10/30/11 3:59:00 AM
#142:


Been busy, then slacking after busyness, so haven't gotten that big Tae Kim session I wanted in yet. I still did a little of it today, though. Just the normal one section, though. And I did do cards both days just forgot to update.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 358 (10.6%)
Young cards: 489 (14.4%)
Unseen cards: 2540 (75.0%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (79 of 79)
Young cards: 93.3% (3377 of 3619)
First-seen cards: 92.0% (779 of 847)

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Lopen
10/31/11 12:12:00 PM
#143:


Took a break from Japanese yesterday. Will do today.

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meisnewbie
10/31/11 10:45:00 PM
#144:


Hey it's been two months and you've done about a third! Keep up the good work imo

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Lopen
11/02/11 3:14:00 AM
#145:


Rare footage of meisnewbie actually giving praise. Amazing.

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 394 (11.6%)
Young cards: 473 (14.0%)
Unseen cards: 2520 (74.4%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (102 of 102)
Young cards: 93.5% (3619 of 3871)
First-seen cards: 92.2% (799 of 867)

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sephsblade
11/02/11 4:07:00 AM
#146:


you should screencap it and use it as blackmail

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meisnewbie
11/02/11 7:29:00 PM
#147:


It's only valuable because it's given out sparingly tbqh

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Lopen
11/03/11 2:18:00 AM
#148:


Card Maturity
Mature cards: 408 (12.0%)
Young cards: 479 (14.1%)
Unseen cards: 2500 (73.8%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (114 of 114)
Young cards: 93.6% (3696 of 3949)
First-seen cards: 92.3% (819 of 887)

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Lopen
11/04/11 2:33:00 AM
#149:


Safety bump.

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sephsblade
11/04/11 5:24:00 PM
#150:


eustia

20 lines or something
subject confusion: 2
tense screw up: 2
lines with words not in the dictionary and the translation appears to ignore: 1
lines with cat kanji: 0

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