I've only ever grabbed one off the shelf at the store, but now I want to make one that will last a while... and for cheap. Is it possible?! I hope so.
It doesn't need to be able to kick ass at playing games, but it does need to read PDFs without slowing down (that's how much my current computer rules).
So let's see. I need: CPU Motherboard RAM Hard Drive Video Card Operating System Case Power Supply
Am I forgetting anything? I'll probably pick up some kind of DVD or Blu-Ray drive and a memory card reader.
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PDF's slowing down has more to do with the fact that adobe is terrible and makes horribly inefficient/buggy software than anything that might be wrong with your computer tbh
This guide was pretty helpful for me when I was building my computer last month. Make sure you get a CPU/motherboard combination whose socket types are compatible, that could potentially be the biggest sticking point.
edit: mine's the same as the above post, but updated for two months ago
- decide whether you want AMD or Intel processors. this will govern your motherboard. AMD is MUCH cheaper and has their new chip out in a week or two, so wait for that news first to see what happens. there isn't much difference between 'em overall honestly, for 90% of what you do it's gonna be the same, just at a fraction of the price.
- AMD/ATI vid cards generally work better with AMD computers, while NVIDIA's tend to run better with Intel. not that you can't mix and match obviously, but those are just general connections that make sense.
- don't skimp on the case. just because it holds everything together doesn't mean much, you want to make sure it's got great ventilation.
- don't skimp on the power supply. you want to make sure it's got plenty of juice, ESPECIALLY if you plan to run two vid cards in there. not necessary to do that, but it's helpful if you go with an AMD build and want to see PhysX in action as it's totally doable.
- RAM is dirt cheap. 8GB for $40 is normal enough. rather, high quality 8GB is normal enough.
- if you're a student, try one of the many student deals to get the Windows if you want a legit version.
- newegg is your best friend. get on their newsletter so you'll see the very frequent offers they do, and check daily to see the sales on the front page and what time they'll start.
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Don't sound cards often come integrated with CPUs (I mean motherboards?) or is that pretty much just when you buy them off the shelf?
I wondered if Adobe just sucks at being efficient, but since I don't know enough about that kind of thing, I couldn't be sure. Still, I always vented my anger first at them for the slowdown and then at my computer.
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I'm looking to build a computer for under $500 that'll run The Old Republic. I don't need a monitor as I have a 23" Samsung to run it off of. I was talking about this the other night because my laptop is pretty much on it's last legs and I think I want to go back to a desktop for a while.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I know diddly about computers.
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a sound card is not needed. however you found something new. that chip only was released a bit over a month ago, and is part of AMD's latest experiment - fusion chips. the general idea is to combine the CPU and GPU into one, so it'll double as your graphics card and as your cpu in one go. i'd wait for a sale on it, as it's promising tech that's been going on a bit longer with tablets and netbooks. they just started the desktop movement, and yeah, it's VERY budget friendly.
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bit repetitive, but he gives you the basic info needed and he pretty much sets up how your motherboard will look, if you go that route. though he picked a micro atx board so eh.
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The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel.
Another thing, don't immediately dismiss the advice of any one person, but there's so much brand loyalty in the components market that it's tough to tell who is making a reasoned approach and who is blindly extolling the virtues of their brand of choice while glossing over the inadequacies. I'd much rather have you use the average score on newegg (which can, admittedly, sometimes be misleading) than use any of our advice on which components and brands to buy exclusively.
For example, not to hate on Wang at all, but he seems to be the kind of guy who likes AMD more than Intel, and there's no way on the surface to tell if that's after years of research or just because he's always bought AMD and that's just what he does. I know a guy who's equally adamant that although AMD had the same quality processors for cheaper back in the day, all AMD processors are basically outperformed by any decent Intel processor nowadays and you'd have to be a fool to buy AMD for any reason. Don't necessarily believe him either - do your own research and try to take from multiple sources.
the only time brand consideration really needs to be done is with Power Supply and Motherboard. RAM isn't an issue since Corsair and GSkill tend to be the cheapest on newegg AND they're among the best. but those two are the two most important parts of your computer and always are worth a look see. especially the power supply.
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The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel.
From: snailien | #007 Don't sound cards often come integrated with CPUs (I mean motherboards?) or is that pretty much just when you buy them off the shelf?
They do come integrated in the motherboard, just like that CPU you posted has an integrated GPU. The thing is that most people need dedicated GPUs to do stuff like gaming, so you need to get a separate card for that, but very few people care so much about sound that they need a dedicated audio card.
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How big are the PDF files you're getting? Because the biggest file I have is 95 MB and my laptop can still open it and scroll through it without any delay. (Then again I do have an Intel Core i7)
the CPU/GPU comparison to sound cards doesn't quite work because really the tech isn't even a year old. >_>; that's usually been something the motherboard does, motherboard with intergrated video, but what AMD's got... really isn't half bad at all there and can play everything today. you can easily just crossfire it with an actual vid card too in order to make it akin to a top tier card. pretty nice stuff all around what they have there and is definitely a budget builder's need as being able to satisfy a quad core + good vid card + expandability for sub $150 is unreal.
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So when I get all this stuff, I basically just plug it all into the motherboard and then turn it on and hope for the best, right?
WhiteLens posted... How big are the PDF files you're getting? Because the biggest file I have is 95 MB and my laptop can still open it and scroll through it without any delay. (Then again I do have an Intel Core i7)
Not very big at all. Usually between 1 and 4 MBs. Some are up to 17 or so, but even the 1 MB PDF has trouble scrolling through new pages until it has already seen them for the session it's open.
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And I need to pick up Windows 7 somewhere, probably Amazon.
I'm going to be completely honest, you should see if you can find a friend or relative who wouldn't mind lending you the install disc, unless you really want your own copy of it.
easy version is get a friend who's a student to get one of the MS deals. board 8 has plenty of students too even, AND MS does it digitally. not too long ago you could get Windows 7 Pro for $30 as a student even. still might.
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The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel.
I've used Ubuntu a bit for a couple of classes I took, but I didn't care for it. I'm just not a Linux guy, which is weird because I somehow practically aced the two Linux/Unix classes I took. Then I decided I didn't really want to work with computers for a living after all and I forgot everything anyway.
I'll have to keep an eye out for those student discounts. I'm done with school for now, but my wife's going again so we might be able to snag something.
-- "Filthy lawbreaker, unhand that vending machine!" - Casey Jones
I like Linux and all for development but for main computer use, you can't beat Windows.
The lame thing is that MS only has Win7 upgrade for $30 for students... and schools (mine, at least) only sell upgrade versions for special deals. Full versions are full price. So if you have copies of XP/Windows you can use those to upgrade to Win 7 for $30, but you probably don't.