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The Real Truth
08/13/11 4:18:00 PM
#51:


That looks like either Nevermore or Naix. I can't tell who the dude with the sword is. Probably because I haven't played for awhile.

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Aecioo
08/13/11 4:46:00 PM
#52:


Looking good.

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Aecioo
08/13/11 4:50:00 PM
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Xiahou Shake
08/13/11 8:32:00 PM
#54:


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"Official" fan art by someone who supposedly has access to either the game or the models. For what it's worth, Juggernaut (?) looks exactly the same as he does on the header that was yanked from the official site.

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Xiahou Shake
08/13/11 10:40:00 PM
#55:


Points of interest:
-Razor has a lightning whip
-Lina has hair (again)
-Tiny has a manly beard
-Tidehunter is holding a hook AND a giant fish
-Sven's sword is Berserk status with his ultimate active

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Xiahou Shake
08/13/11 11:56:00 PM
#56:


Bingo
Bingo
BINGO
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First screenshot.

Compare it against this pic of one of the tournament players playing the game from far away, you can match up the parts and tell it's the same UI.
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Xiahou Shake
08/14/11 12:36:00 AM
#57:


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And another one.
Methinks the floodgates will be open before long.

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Justin_Crossing
08/14/11 12:44:00 AM
#58:


I don't like big UIs but I will find a way to live with it!

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janembaman
08/14/11 1:21:00 AM
#59:


oh my it looks terrible
Altough LoL looks worse and people like it so I dunno!!
It's Diablo 3 and rainbows all over again
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janembaman
08/14/11 2:18:00 AM
#60:


Some points of interest-
Doom Bringer stats are the same from DotA
The 63 damage he has is average-does it mean they will always deal set damage? or it's just to be easier to see?
In Both screenshots-there are 6 slots for hero skills
In Nevermore case,it's because Shadowraze takes 3 slots
In Doombringer case-it's because he can get creeps abilities
But what does it mean about other heroes,will they have 4 slots or also 6?
You can't see final stats (unless dragging the mouse over nets a new info screen) it is base stats+stats from items
Hotkeys are conflicting-in Nevermore it is QWER,in Doombringer Devour is E like in Dota
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Xiahou Shake
08/14/11 2:25:00 AM
#61:


From: janembaman | #060
Hotkeys are conflicting-in Nevermore it is QWER,in Doombringer Devour is E like in Dota


This one I can explain, it says in the FAQ on the site that there are multiple control options. One is the LoL-ish QWER, another is classic DotA, and you can even map your own custom controls.

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The Real Truth
08/14/11 2:30:00 AM
#62:


I'll just be using classic DotA controls since although they mostly don't make sense and are completely different based on whatever hero you use, they're engraved into my soul forever. I'll check out that link when I can.

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The Real Truth
08/14/11 5:44:00 AM
#63:


I like the look. The game looks really sleek and clean so far. I just want smooth animations, and to be able to see every movement that happens.

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Aecioo
08/14/11 10:31:00 AM
#66:


Game looks really nice.

If it's a 1:1 port, like it probably is, with just updated shiny graphics, matchmaking, and stat tracking, it will be the best.

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Aecioo
08/14/11 10:39:00 AM
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also

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Ness26
08/14/11 10:46:00 AM
#68:


Ah, so the spell bar changes based on how many slots you need. Nice.

Man, I'm excited.

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OctilIery
08/14/11 11:22:00 AM
#69:


UltimaterializerX posted...
LoL is easymode Dota for people who suck at Dota.

Both have their upsides

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Xiahou Shake
08/14/11 7:57:00 PM
#70:


Gonna make a topic either tomorrow or the day after hyping the tournament, sorry for making you guys put up with this one for so long, I'm just really really pumped. >_>

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Peace___Frog
08/14/11 9:27:00 PM
#71:


This looks cool.

I never played the original DotA, so I have no idea what to expect.
I hear there's no AP though, and I really hope they implement something so that casters and autoattackers scale differently.

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Peace___Frog
08/14/11 9:28:00 PM
#72:


also Ulti - I don't think anyone really cares what you think of LoL. The conversation's been had plenty of times, and I don't think you've convinced anyone that LoL isn't fun to play

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foolmor0n
08/14/11 9:46:00 PM
#73:


It looks like.... DotA from WC3

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Aecioo
08/15/11 6:57:00 AM
#74:


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lol at that guys terrible keybindings

Also, that is only a partial hero selection screen, not the full one. So either you do have to unlock heroes (which implies it's going to be F2P), or it's an old screenshot.

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Ness26
08/15/11 7:44:00 AM
#75:


I'd want to guess it's an old screenshot. During alpha/beta they were releasing champions over a period of time.

I really hope so anyway. Having unlockable heroes could really screw with the game since DotA team composition is heavily based on counter-picks and synergies, so having the full roster available to you is pretty important.

From: Peace___Frog | #071
I hear there's no AP though, and I really hope they implement something so that casters and autoattackers scale differently.


There is zero chance of this. It would change the game way too much. Burst casters are intentionally strong mid-game but then start to lose burstiness as the game goes on. Instead, casters can buy items that give them valuable disables (turns target into sheep, for example) to contribute to their team toward the end. A caster isn't meant to be able to dominate throughout the game. They do their job by crushing the opposition during the mid-game to give their team a huge advantage going into the end-game. They can easily decide the game if they do a good job.

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The Real Truth
08/15/11 7:53:00 AM
#76:


A well built INT hero (depends on the hero) can destroy people even late game. Though some stupid heroes (Spectre) are just annoying to deal with, no matter how good your items are.

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SpeedYoshi
08/15/11 8:11:00 AM
#79:


From: UltimaterializerX | #077
That sucks, and doesn't really happen in LoL as far as I can tell.


assuming an ultra kill is killing the entire team. It does happen

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Ness26
08/15/11 8:15:00 AM
#81:


LoL snowballs more imo, which is why you see less comebacks.

They can happen though. Any ace after the 40 minute mark probably results in the game ending, so if the winning team makes one mistake it will end.

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SpeedYoshi
08/15/11 8:16:00 AM
#82:


Depending on how well you win the team fight, after a certain point in the game you just win the game by pushing, depending on which champ you left alive.

Although to actually win a teamfight by that much when you're behind by 25 kills would mean the other team royally ****ed up

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The Real Truth
08/15/11 8:17:00 AM
#83:


I wonder how hard it would be to break into a base with Techies, Earthshaker, Invoker, Pitlord and Axe defending.

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Aecioo
08/15/11 8:28:00 AM
#84:


DotA has heroes that snowball harder, LoL has teams that snowball harder. If that makes any sense.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/15/11 8:45:00 AM
#85:


Is DotA even allowed to cost money to pay?

I was under the impression that some of their heroes are just taken from anime (Lina Inverse) which would make them intellectual property, no?

(I actually know nothing, please educate me not flame me)

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Ness26
08/15/11 8:49:00 AM
#86:


They've reworked the heroes that could give copyright issues I believe. Lina is now just called "Lina" and her spells probably are renamed. Heroes with names related to WC3 things have probably been changed as well. I'm sure they're jumping through the hoops they need to jump through. They already bought the rights to the name "DotA" I think when they were challenged on some stuff, so they're well aware of the legal stuff I'd imagine.

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Justin_Crossing
08/15/11 9:47:00 AM
#87:


From: SpeedYoshi | #079
assuming an ultra kill is killing the entire team. It does happen


yeah but they aren't an independent person dealing with an entire team. If you're getting a pentakill by yourself in LoL or without the help of at least 2 or 3 members of your team the enemies are doing it wrong.

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Xiahou Shake
08/15/11 12:20:00 PM
#88:


From: Aecioo | #074
Also, that is only a partial hero selection screen, not the full one. So either you do have to unlock heroes (which implies it's going to be F2P), or it's an old screenshot.


It's been said that all the screens that've been leaked so far were captured four months ago.

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Silver_Ermine
08/15/11 12:24:00 PM
#89:


Yeah, honestly. Pentakills in LoL are more of a "right place at the right time". I mean sure, you could be fed at that point and doing lots of damage, but even still, it's REALLY hard to get one lol

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KanzarisKelshen
08/15/11 12:55:00 PM
#90:


Yeah, getting like, a quadkill in LoL is either "I got all the deathblows because of dat timing" or "I went in while so fed that I singlehandedly won the game for the team", which is possible, if rare and more dependent on being pro at positioning than having immunity items.

Also, given what we are discussing...

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/league-legends-season-two-feature-5-million-prize-pool

"oneupmanship, son"

I mean...damn. Talk about raising the stakes. O_O

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Ness26
08/15/11 12:59:00 PM
#91:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #090
Also, given what we are discussing...

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/league-legends-season-two-feature-5-million-prize-pool

"oneupmanship, son"

I mean...damn. Talk about raising the stakes. O_O


Except it's a $5 million pool that waits for all of Season 2. How long has Season 1 lasted? About a year, right?

Valve is dropping a $1.7 million pool for one event that will last three (right?) days. This is before the game has even been released.

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KanzarisKelshen
08/15/11 1:07:00 PM
#92:


Ness26 posted...
From: KanzarisKelshen | #090
Also, given what we are discussing...

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/league-legends-season-two-feature-5-million-prize-pool

"oneupmanship, son"

I mean...damn. Talk about raising the stakes. O_O
Except it's a $5 million pool that waits for all of Season 2. How long has Season 1 lasted? About a year, right?

Valve is dropping a $1.7 million pool for one event that will last three (right?) days. This is before the game has even been released.


Yes, but the high-stakes tournaments are...two or three IIRC. Each of them is likely to have a pool of 1mil, maybe 1.5/2 for the season capper. The smaller leagues will split the rest of the cash instead. Valve is going for the EVO model, but Riot is going for a more consistent setup.

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Xiahou Shake
08/15/11 1:07:00 PM
#93:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #090
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/league-legends-season-two-feature-5-million-prize-pool


Just saw this, that's pretty hilarious.
Hope Riot doesn't go broke trying to keep up with Valve. If they just chill and embrace their differences from DotA, they'll be fine. This isn't quite doing that. >_>

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KanzarisKelshen
08/15/11 1:09:00 PM
#94:


Xiahou Shake posted...
From: KanzarisKelshen | #090
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/league-legends-season-two-feature-5-million-prize-pool
Just saw this, that's pretty hilarious.
Hope Riot doesn't go broke trying to keep up with Valve. If they just chill and embrace their differences from DotA, they'll be fine. This isn't quite doing that. >_>


They won't go broke. The third largest internet company in the world is funding them.

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Biolizard28
08/15/11 1:15:00 PM
#95:


Riot itself is worth several million dollars. Nobody except Ulti believes they're in danger.

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Ness26
08/15/11 2:49:00 PM
#96:


Trailer:
http://www.dota2.com/trailer

Hype hype.

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Xiahou Shake
08/15/11 2:59:00 PM
#97:


From: Ness26 | #096
Trailer:
http://www.dota2.com/trailer

Hype hype.


Yesssssssssss.
Valve's knack for voice acting is going to lend SO much flavor to a game like this.

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Silverliner182V
08/15/11 3:25:00 PM
#98:


on the same note, I think it's quite dumb that a caster can be allowed to dominate all phases of the game like in LoL. autoattackers and other sustained DPS generally do not have that luxury, and often they're faced with having a weaker lategame than the casters anyways.

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VintageGin
08/15/11 3:37:00 PM
#99:


Valve knows how to make trailers, alright.

I haven't even played DotA, and only had peripheral interest in this game. Now I'm kinda hyped.

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Forceful_Dragon
08/15/11 3:45:00 PM
#100:


UltimaterializerX posted...
LoL is easymode Dota for people who suck at Dota.


You obviously thrive on negative energy, but please do not badmouth LoL.

It isn't the first time you've made glib comments and I would like it if you would stop.



It's like the FPS players who trash talk other FPS because they "take less skill". Don't be that guy.

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