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Xiahou Shake 08/09/11 9:22:00 PM #1: |
Are you guys excited? I'm crazy pumped, I'd be in serious trouble if this thing was farther than a week away. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shoenin_Kakashi 08/09/11 9:56:00 PM #2: |
start picking for whats gonna be the most common hero in the tournament.
Id say POTM and Voidy -- Nice catch BlAcK TuRtLe. But too bad your ass got SAAAAAAAAAAACKED.*tackles* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 08/09/11 10:03:00 PM #3: |
I'd wager we'll see a fair amount of Morphlings and Invokers.
Honestly the best part of the first day will be seeing each hero and how they look now! -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 08/09/11 11:04:00 PM #4: |
Not too much hype, I'm sad to see.
Hopefully the tournament actually starting will draw more attention.~ -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KommunistKoala 08/09/11 11:07:00 PM #5: |
will said tournament be streamed so people who enjoy watching it but suck too much to do anything can watch
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Aecioo 08/09/11 11:08:00 PM #6: |
KommunistKoala posted...
will said tournament be streamed so people who enjoy watching it but suck too much to do anything can watch what the game isn't out, so I don't understand how the tournament would be seen otherwise! -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 08/09/11 11:10:00 PM #7: |
Yeah, the tournament is being streamed in four different languages.
This isn't something regular folks are competing in, this is the first time the game will be seen by the public. All the teams in the tournament were top teams who played/play the original DotA. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KommunistKoala 08/09/11 11:15:00 PM #8: |
Aecioo hatin on someone just asking a simple question =(
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Aecioo 08/09/11 11:22:00 PM #9: |
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I just figured because you were in this topic you knew about DotA 2 :( Massive Dota2 Valve streamage across the world with the top teams, for a million dollar prize. They really understand how to hype a game that hasn't come out yet. -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Real Truth 08/09/11 11:33:00 PM #10: |
This is really refreshing. I haven't played DotA for awhile now so to get back into a newer version is pretty neat.
I imagine Tiny, PotM, Morph, Silencer, VS would all be pretty high on the list of picks. I don't know if they're banning heroes though. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red13n 08/09/11 11:40:00 PM #11: |
mind you, this is actually like, DotA 5 or 6.
I'll stick with LoL. -- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Real Truth 08/09/11 11:42:00 PM #12: |
You say that now. You'll switch once LoL players start leaving for DotA 2.
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Aecioo 08/09/11 11:45:00 PM #13: |
LoL will always have a fanbase because it's "casual friendly". And because people have put a bunch of money and time into it.
But DotA 2 will have a gigantic fanbase and a much bigger competitive scene if it delivers. -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meisnewbie 08/09/11 11:47:00 PM #14: |
No, no it'll always have a fanbase because it's 1) Free and 2) Free with an established base. Even if LoL starts dying, it'll only lose the hardcore batch at the very most while the casuals who don't want to pay will hang on.
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Xiahou Shake 08/09/11 11:56:00 PM #15: |
There's a reasonably good chance that DotA2 will be free though, so there's always that to consider.
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Forceful_Dragon 08/10/11 4:33:00 PM #16: |
I plan on getting and playing DotA 2.
I do not intend to stop playing LoL. LoL had over 100k viewers during much of their season 1 finals streams (which occurred in the dead of night on account of being hosted in Sweden). It will be interesting to see if DotA 2 streams can compete with those numbers. In any case I will play both games. By switching to LoL (from DotA) I was able to stay sharp in a community that is still growing and competitive (which DotA no longer was). I expect I will take to DotA2 pretty well. -- Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/nio/9fdpngys.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin_Crossing 08/10/11 4:44:00 PM #17: |
LoL broke 200k viewers in the finals :O
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Xiahou Shake 08/10/11 10:37:00 PM #18: |
DotA2's probably going to break 200k on the chinese stream alone, though I am excited to see how high the english stream numbers reach.
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skull_bonek23 08/10/11 10:40:00 PM #19: |
I like these topics because I have no idea what the game is or what's going on or why people care
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Xiahou Shake 08/10/11 10:51:00 PM #20: |
From: skull_bonek23 | #019 What the game is: To make a long, long story short, DotA was a custom map for Warcraft 3 that eventually far surpassed WC3 itself in popularity. It developed a tournament scene and achieved wildfire popularity. League of Legends and Heroes of Newerth are DotA-esque games that were made recently. What's going on: DotA2, made by Valve and the person who made DotA tourney viable, is being revealed to the public next week in a tournament that features the largest prize in esport history. Why people care: DotA's reclaiming it's throne at the top of the DotA genre, and is probably going to end up being one of the most popular games of the present, not to mention it's probably going to be a major event in the development of esports. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Real Truth 08/10/11 10:55:00 PM #21: |
You're nuts if you think DotA 2 isn't going to be breaking 100-200k people streaming it.
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The Real Truth 08/10/11 10:57:00 PM #22: |
Seriously, DotA with 1 million dollar prize, organized tournaments sponsored by Nvidia, and Valve hosting, and advertising it? Yeah.
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Xiahou Shake 08/10/11 11:00:00 PM #23: |
There's close to 2 million people on Steam every day, they can reach all of those people without spending a dime.
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KanzarisKelshen 08/10/11 11:05:00 PM #24: |
Aecioo posted...
LoL will always have a fanbase because it's "casual friendly". And because people have put a bunch of money and time into it. But DotA 2 will have a gigantic fanbase and a much bigger competitive scene if it delivers. DotA2 is almost certainly not going to start scaring WoW any time soon. It just doesn't have the install base for it, while LoL is, what, the third most played game ever at this point? And still growing? -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/59835001 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 08/10/11 11:22:00 PM #25: |
From: KanzarisKelshen | #024 Erm, I don't think this is even close to right. LoL has 15 million accounts. That sounds impressive but for a free game you have to consider how many people have multiple accounts and stuff like that. For comparisons sake, Runescape has hundreds of millions of accounts. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shoenin_Kakashi 08/10/11 11:23:00 PM #26: |
LoL isnt anywhere near top 3 most played.
Dont even think its in Top 10 in terms of most played. -- Nice catch BlAcK TuRtLe. But too bad your ass got SAAAAAAAAAAACKED.*tackles* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 08/10/11 11:42:00 PM #27: |
Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
LoL isnt anywhere near top 3 most played. Dont even think its in Top 10 in terms of most played. It most definitely is, or at least Top 5. I was surprised too, but it's blown up a hell of a lot. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/59835001 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 08/11/11 2:41:00 PM #28: |
do you have source on that kanz?
And top 3 most played could mean a lot of different things. -- Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/nio/9fdpngys.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolmor0n 08/11/11 2:54:00 PM #29: |
Spoilers: DOTA2 will be F2P with microtransactions
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Forceful_Dragon 08/11/11 2:56:00 PM #30: |
I don't see LoL getting much smaller just because of DotA 2. I think many people will play both games like I know I will. Especially if DotA2 is F2P.
I set aside some birthday money just in case it wasn't. -- Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/nio/9fdpngys.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 08/11/11 2:57:00 PM #31: |
From: Xiahou Shake | #015 I'm not sure if I want this to be true or not. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 08/11/11 3:00:00 PM #32: |
There was a theory being tossed about some time ago that everything Valve's done with TF2 is practice for DotA2. The cash shop, replays, the coaching system, and ultimately the free-to-play model.
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foolm0ron 08/11/11 4:59:00 PM #33: |
Yeah the coaching was pretty pointless for TF2... but it would be great in DOTA
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The Real Truth 08/11/11 5:01:00 PM #34: |
F2P as in what? There's not going to be a monthly fee for it. Are you guys talking about no fee whatsoever? I just assumed there would be an initial buyers fee and maybe some microtransactions regarding hats and avatars, or whatever.
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Xiahou Shake 08/11/11 5:05:00 PM #35: |
From: The Real Truth | #034 Yeah, F2P as in what TF2 is now. Free to play but you can pay for cosmetics and w/e. In this case it'd probably be exactly like LoL, except you can probably only buy skins. Locking champions would kinda screw with DotA. >_> -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Azp2k32 08/11/11 5:05:00 PM #36: |
Forceful_Dragon posted...
I don't see LoL getting much smaller just because of DotA 2. I think many people will play both games like I know I will. Especially if DotA2 is F2P. I set aside some birthday money just in case it wasn't. Ehhh. With games so similar, there certainly ends up being an inevitable tradeoff. Like, there were certainly points of time when I played both HoN and LoL, but one is always losing out to the other and only ends up being played because of friends whose game of choice it is at the moment. They're different enough to warrant trying both, but not so much that if you get burned out on playing one of them, you won't be burned out on the others too. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Real Truth 08/11/11 5:06:00 PM #37: |
I'm kind of hoping they charge a free for it. Though at the same time it might encourage more people here to check it out.
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Azp2k32 08/11/11 5:09:00 PM #38: |
The Real Truth posted...
I'm kind of hoping they charge a free for it. Though at the same time it might encourage more people here to check it out. I don't think they really have an option at this point, especially when it's not just LoL but HoN too that's F2P. I mean, I'm sure they'll get a huge chunk of the market being Valve and all if they charge like, 30 dollars, but when they can just make it F2P and use the pre-established microtransaction model to take over the entire DOTA market.... -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 08/11/11 5:10:00 PM #39: |
Xiahou Shake posted...
Locking champions would kinda screw with DotA. >_> It hasn't really hurt LoL. The people who play at a high level end up getting basically any champion they would want to use. -- Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/nio/9fdpngys.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 08/11/11 5:21:00 PM #40: |
If they charge $60 they can get a huge chunk of the market still. They have the advertising power to do it *looks at the $1 mil prize*.
They did it with Portal 2. BUT, F2P + hats + keys = even way more money -- _foolmo_ 'I love you so much' - SineNomine ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 08/11/11 5:33:00 PM #41: |
From: Forceful_Dragon | #039 This is just based on my own knowledge, you're better than me at LoL and it's a safe bet you've played more DotA than me too, but it seems like DotA requires more decent team composition at all levels of play. In a match between less amazing players in LoL, an all AP team or an all tanks team could get the job done. Again, I may be speaking from too little experience, but that doesn't seem to be the case in DotA. Even if I'm totally wrong about that, you can't tell me DotA2 would benefit from a free Pudge week. >_> -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 08/11/11 5:38:00 PM #42: |
Forceful_Dragon posted...
do you have source on that kanz? And top 3 most played could mean a lot of different things. D'you know if anybody's got the previous LoL topics saved? We discussed this before IIRC. I can go through RIOT's archives and try to find it if we don't have that though. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/59835001 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 08/11/11 5:42:00 PM #43: |
Xiahou Shake posted...
From: Forceful_Dragon | #039 It hasn't really hurt LoL. The people who play at a high level end up getting basically any champion they would want to use. This is just based on my own knowledge, you're better than me at LoL and it's a safe bet you've played more DotA than me too, but it seems like DotA requires more decent team composition at all levels of play. In a match between less amazing players in LoL, an all AP team or an all tanks team could get the job done. Again, I may be speaking from too little experience, but that doesn't seem to be the case in DotA. Even if I'm totally wrong about that, you can't tell me DotA2 would benefit from a free Pudge week. >_> Conversely, teamcomp can be a nonissue if one player is skilled enough in DotA because you can 1v5 with enough farm. Trying to argue this doesn't work because it's impossible to win solo in LoL unless the enemy team mass DC's, but teamcomp can screw you over, while in DotA you can win alone but if you're not good enough you'll lose every time. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/59835001 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 08/12/11 1:54:00 PM #44: |
Anyone know if the newer DotA heroes are being brought to DotA 2? Wisp is a blast to play, and I'd be sad if he's gone.
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Shoenin_Kakashi 08/12/11 2:07:00 PM #45: |
I don't see why'd they'd get rid of any of the DotA heroes already in.
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Aecioo 08/12/11 2:08:00 PM #46: |
Ness26 posted...
Anyone know if the newer DotA heroes are being brought to DotA 2? Wisp is a blast to play, and I'd be sad if he's gone. They haven't announced anything about anything other than the three heroes on their concept art page. I would assume they are bringing over every hero released, with the exception of maybe the last two or three released depending on when Valve stopped their hero creation to work on other features (assuming they even did). -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 08/12/11 6:42:00 PM #47: |
Yeah, there's no reason to believe that we aren't getting all of the heroes.
Chances are this is going to be a 1:1 game with just a few changes. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 08/12/11 7:08:00 PM #48: |
Supposedly this was yanked from DotA2.com's login page, which some folks were able to access before it was quickly pulled down. The art style's not as bat **** crazy as the character splashes we got when the game was announced, but still, dat Pudge. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin_Crossing 08/12/11 7:13:00 PM #49: |
I'm just waiting for the announcement of "the game is free to play and is being released next week" at gamescom or something.
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Xiahou Shake 08/12/11 9:09:00 PM #50: |
From: Justin_Crossing | #049 This would be totally amazing and it actually wouldn't be too surprising. An open beta could happen pretty much any time, though the Steam store page says fall. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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