From: ShadowHalo17 | #249 He has not. Now you deprive him the chance of wielding Alondite!
I really wish you didn't get that and Wishblade so late in the game, they're really awesome and I wish I had more time with them.
They'd be pretty overpowered earlier, especially Alondite since it can't break even before "plot stuff" prior to 4-E-3. Ragnell is already crazy enough, we don't need a clone of it running around.
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I like being overpowered, so it would be fun for me >_>
God damn you completed that last chapter really fast.
As for the first chapter in the endgame, you asked what Adept does with a Brave weapon, it would just give you an extra hit, so she could have hit five times instead of four. Not that difficult to imagine.
-- ~Halo There is no Crane, only Scarecrow! http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3739/scarecrowq.jpg
Now we get to make our weapons never break and be able to damage the remaining bosses. Hooray.
Chapter 4-E-3
This is a pretty fun chapter to rout. It's also a pretty fun chapter to make a blitz to the boss, because this is a case where the boss in question is pretty damn powerful. It's also the first time I might run into the "map attacks", special attacks not tied to an equipped weapon that feel very odd in a Fire Emblem game. Lekain had one too, but I killed him before he could use it.
Nihil gets distributed to everyone who is likely to be fighting Dheginsea, since you aren't exactly likely to survive being hit by Ire.
It's a pretty cool touch that the enemies here refuse to attack Kurth and Ena. You can make use of this fact, especially by positioning them in places where you can make use of their helpful support skills without worrying about them dying.
Anyway. This is another map where the first turn is where the challenge lies. You have a lot of dragons quite nearby, and you need to try to clear them out enough so that they can't go around attacking your units, since only the most durable characters can survive 2 hits here. Most places you can attack from will put you in range of more enemies. Physic and Canto healers come in very handy here to help people who will need to take hits on enemy phase. I have Shinon with Dragonfoe equipped since he doesn't even have to face counter attacks, Reyson will be dedicated to refreshing him so he can keep safely killing things. Everyone else spreads out and combines for what kills they can.
There's an interesting balance between threat and durability here. The red dragons do comparatively less damage due to targeting defense, which will be higher for most characters, but they're also much more durable due to their high defense. White dragons are easier to kill, but their attacks target resistance which will amount to much more damage to most units.
It's nice that after dealing with enemies using Cover tiles in previous maps to annoy me, I can finally put Cover/Wardwood to good use by using it help me endure multiple dragons who otherwise would have killed me. On the other hand, even the generals of past maps are nothing compared to the tank that is a red dragon on Cover.
It's amazing just how useful Kurth and Ena are here for their special abilities. An extra ten damage dished out or 5 less damage taken can really be a difference-maker. Case in point, Ena enables people to do much more significant damage to Dheginsea. When your attacks are only doing 20-30 damage, if you double (and the people you want fighting him are people who double him) that can be almost a 50% damage boost.
And thanks to that, I kill Dheginsea on turn 4. Ena supports, Caineghis attacks, Reyson refreshes, Shinon attacks (that 3 range thing is amazing, isn't it?), Ike attacks, and then Tibarn finishes the job.
And that's the infamous dragon chapter down! Just two more to go!
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I once sat back on that chapter with Ike against the barrier so he was 3 spaces from Mia support and unequipped him so I could actually rout the chapter. That was fun.
So we had the showdown with Lekain chapter. We had the Black Knight chapter. We had the dragon chapter. After this is the final boss chapter. And now, we have the...dude who is only barely alluded to until he shows up now and reveals he's the entire reason for the plot chapter? This is just a weird, weird map <_<
So to start with, everyone moves forward. The spirits here are pretty weak and only pose a threat if they can gang up on lower resistance characters. Taking advantage of the Wardwood tiles for +10 Res on characters like Caineghis and Ike can pretty much solve all potential problems, as can just killing enough of the things at a time to keep them out of your hair. And that is not too difficult; if you're bringing someone to Endgame, they'll have the 34 speed necessary to double these things, or will be Haar with the Brave Axe. They'll die in two hits to pretty much anyone you're seriously using unless they're on Cover tiles.
On turn 2 everyone clears out the enemies around Sephiran so I can attack him. I realize I ****ed up by not putting Nasir close enough to get in range and provide his amazing support ability (+5 speed if you stand next to him? Hell yes) so doubling is a bit harder than I'd like it to be, given he's got 32 AS. Not a problem though when I can just throw people at him until he dies. Ike could have done most of the work himself, but I let pretty much everyone within reach get a shot in.
DUN DUN DUN Final boss time next
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From: nintendogirl1 | #256 I once sat back on that chapter with Ike against the barrier so he was 3 spaces from Mia support and unequipped him so I could actually rout the chapter. That was fun.
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With how wide open that room is, I can't imagine it's easy to do that.
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I just finished the first chapter where you fight the Dawn Brigade, fun times. I'm much more offensive this time through than I ever have been in any Fire Emblem game. Nephenee, Gatrie, and Haar mainly progressed, Neph didn't even get hit ONCE. She avoided every single attack directed at her. Amazing.
-- ~Halo There is no Crane, only Scarecrow! http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3739/scarecrowq.jpg
And here we are at the final battle. I hate to be critical, but I kind of liked the "defeat the other targets to get at the final boss" routine more when the targets were actual bosses rather than floating chunks of light that reflect damage instead of having actual attacks <_<
So this chapter is all about winning quickly before Ashera breaks out her massive multi-target status effect tricks. Nasir is the greatest thing in the universe, allowing you to double the Auras if your speed is 34 or above. Also taking out the spirits wandering around is helpful, since they'll heal the Auras if you let them. Unfortunately the high speed and luck of the Auras means accuracy is pretty shaky against them, which can potentially get quite annoying. They're all on Cover or Wardwood, the former of which can also slow things down a bit. Especially when they can regain 40HP every turn on their own.
First turn, not much gets accomplished and Ashera blasts us with her multi-target physical attack, doing a lot of damage to people. Mist fixes that up with Fortify for me. Things go much smoother this turn, as we kill off three of the Auras. On the enemy phase, Ena takes massive damage from a double attack by Ashera, but she lives through it. The next turn, another three fall, and Ashera dishes out her multi-target magic attack. That inflicts some pretty nasty damage on everyone, but again everyone can handle it and we move on.
Turn 4 comes and we take down the remaining two Auras, and try to position everyone to take down Ashera herself. Nasir and Ena get in place so that they can boost Caineghis and Ike. The former dishes out some heavy damage, then Mia brings her down enough that Ike only needs to land one of his two attacks to win. And land it he does. We get a fancy cutscene and then BAM! Ike delivers the final hit of the game.
And that, my friends, is Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. Pretty fun game, even if it does have a few lackluster chapters, terrible voice acting in the handful of scenes it occurs in, and BRIDGE.
Now I need to figure out what to do next! I'd love to do FE4 but I don't think anyone has played it. FE7 is probably the most well known. FE5 was requested earlier but man if BRIDGE pissed me off you can't imagine how bad that game can get under my skin at times. Whatever happens, I'm taking a break. By which I mean...I won't start the next game until tonight at the earliest <_<
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I like how instead of coming up with an actual ending for the main character, they just say "he went to somewhere no one has ever heard of and no one ever saw him again"
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Also, 4-E-4 I once strung all my units along in a line that went from one side of the map to another, because I brought a (heavily underleveled) Sothe to the Endgame and he couldn't survive being ganged up by spirits. That was fun to do. Sothe hid behind the wall of units and we marched along side by side.
From: ShadowHalo17 | #265 I would vote for you to play FE7 next, as it is the only other one that I've played besides 8 and 10. Well and some of 6, but bleh.
That is not a bad idea. Especially since I had just played through 6 a few days before I made this topic, so putting it off a bit longer would help with it not getting a little repetitive.
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I was of course being sarcastic with my last post.
This Bridge sucks.
I still don't have as much of a problem with it as you do, especially since all but, like, three of my main characters are tier 3 now, Soren, Ike, and Rhys are the only ones that aren't.
-- ~Halo There is no Crane, only Scarecrow! http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3739/scarecrowq.jpg
From: ShadowHalo17 | #265 I would vote for you to play FE7 next, as it is the only other one that I've played besides 8 and 10. Well and some of 6, but bleh.
My god how have you not played the 3 best in the series? (4, 5, and 9)
From: ShadowHalo17 | #269 I still don't have as much of a problem with it as you do, especially since all but, like, three of my main characters are tier 3 now, Soren, Ike, and Rhys are the only ones that aren't.
It isn't about character strength though. I could have a team consisting of nothing but clones of Caineghis, who would be completely invincible at this point, and it would still suck because those hidden pitfalls are just so ****ing obnoxious.
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Go do it! You're suspended from life until you do!
Neh.
That bridge wasn't so bad when you know more or less where the holes are. Something funny happened, Tibarn got taken down to 1 health point. A Crossbow managed to hit him and severely crippled him, and then some of the boulder launchers kept whittling him down and I had to tell him to avoid so that he wouldn't die and because he stole enough exp from me.
Two Dawn Brigade chapters weren't tough. Edward got Trueblade status, gave Nolan Paragon so he could catch up, and he's pretty close, but didn't make it yet. Sothe was also a star in the castle defend chapter, he took down a bunch of Laguz. One attacked him, but Sothe Vantage'd and Critical'd in one swoop, it was fantastic.
Okay don't do that. Put the Boots on whichever Heron you're going to use for Endgame, the Energy Drop on...Neph, Mia maybe if their strength is lagging, the Speedwings to Haar if he needs it and then any other random unit who is behind, and the Secret Book to ??? because I tend to sell those things too <_<
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On another note, Nolan capped every stat except Skill, at level 18. Impressive, so I gave him a Master Crown, better than wasting BEXP just for one stat.
-- ~Halo Live, fight, survive, as a family. http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7469/batfamily.jpg
Reyson is the best if you don't want to do any of the super duper quick clears in Endgame, since you can give him a Laguz Gem (from the desert or the one Giffca brings), use it on turn one, and then be Rafiel with more move, flight and Canto for the full map.
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I mean that transformed Reyson has the same four-way refresh that Rafiel does, and also flies and has Canto. So if you're willing to spend that one turn on the gem, Reyson is superior.
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Aww yeah, I got Sothe to level 20 before he promoted, never done that before, and I plan to do the same for Micaiah, she's on the right track so far.
Not sure if I mentioned this before, but I have to say that as much as I love Trueblades, I really wish they had a better mastery skill. Astra is just kinda lame, because more often than not, they don't need five strikes to take down an enemy, and the fact that each hit takes a durability point away from your weapon, it's just bleh. Could be so much better imo.
-- ~Halo Rolling around at the speed of sound. http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2417/sonicspeed.jpg
I agree, Astra kind of sucks. It will still kill pretty much anything, but it costs you multiple uses of your weapon instead of just one, so it's worse than everything else (except Bane maybe, at least Astra can kill things <_<)
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Okay time to decide if I do FE7 or FE4 next and then I'll start it up. It's a shame I have to deal with Lyn mode/Chapter 1, so either way I have something I don't much care for to get through early on <_<
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I'm going to be absolutely insane and see how far I can get on a no restart run of FE5 later today.
I'm betting... chapter 12.
Oh dear god
Chapter 12 seems like it would be relatively easy. I'd be much more worried about 11 and 11x. Oh, and 8x, because Gomes is a ****ing bastard. And probably 4 because you can get unlucky. And everything later in the game too <_<
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Chapter 12 seems like it would be relatively easy. I'd be much more worried about 11 and 11x. Oh, and 8x, because Gomes is a ****ing bastard. And probably 4 because you can get unlucky. And everything later in the game too <_<
Oh yeah, that's the thing. I'm betting I'm going to barely limp by those and die on chapter 12 from just lack of forces XD
Well I'll probably chronicle my journey in this topic when I start. Won't be til after midnight though prolly.
So um, what exactly am I looking for? Are they both for the NES? Do they both have English translations? Any... recommendations on finding what I need? PM me maybe >_>
-- ~Halo There is no Crane, only Scarecrow! http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3739/scarecrowq.jpg
They're both on the SNES, and yes they do (FE5's doesn't include a menu translation though last I'm aware, but the menus are the same as every other Fire Emblem game so who cares).
Also make sure you play FE4 first since FE5 spoils stuff from it (Which is VERY bad because FE4's plot is awesome as hell). FE5 is kind of a... sidequel that happens in the middle of FE4 that splits off and ends in a different way than what happens in FE4.
From: ShadowHalo17 | #293 So I may want to play FE4 and possibly 5 now.
So um, what exactly am I looking for? Are they both for the NES? Do they both have English translations? Any... recommendations on finding what I need? PM me maybe >_>
If you know how to find such things in general you can easily get what you need to get started. Both are for SNES. Then check here:
For translation patches. The FE4 one is only missing two minor late-game scenes (and has amusing filler text in their place <_< you can find the proper translation somewhere on the site anyway) and causes the game to crash during the epilogue, the FE5 one doesn't have complete menus, but you can figure it out.
As a warning, FE4 is pretty, uh..."complicated" to play for the first time. It's the one game where a guide is not a bad idea to check up a bit at first, simply because of the weird mechanics it has. At the very least, checking on the various special events and conversations in the game is a great idea because you can miss out on really cool stuff if you don't.
From: tcaz2 | #292 Oh yeah, that's the thing. I'm betting I'm going to barely limp by those and die on chapter 12 from just lack of forces XD
Well I'll probably chronicle my journey in this topic when I start. Won't be til after midnight though prolly.
True, you'll probably manage to finally collapse on some easy chapter because the only useful people you have left are fatigued and Leaf can't handle it all on his own. Imagine if you managed to last long enough to die in a joke map like 14x or 15. Of course, getting past 14 in the first place would be kind of miraculous.
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We'll be doing Lyn Hard Mode (because **** the tutorials) then Hector Hard Mode. Lyn Mode is dull but it's part of the game, so I have to do it. I also have to waste half a year on Nils needlessly singing for people so I can unlock 19xx. That sucks, but it's PART OF THE GAME and FE5 Ch. 24x is the only thing I'll consider skipping. Not going for a particularly speedy clear of the game here (although I'll likely speed through Lyn mode just to get it over with), I figure I might let a few supports happen if only so I can make fun of them a bit.
Oh yeah, I get to name myself. "Yay". I will call myself "Hello" because it might be amusing and no one cares about this part anyway
Prologue
Lyn moves forward, uses a Vulnerary when needed, we fight BATTA THE BEAST, Lyn gains everything but Def and Res, we win. So eventful.
Chapter 1
I'm kind of skipping over the story here because I've seen it too many times to care. I might comment on stuff later once the main plot starts happening.
Kent gives Sain his Iron Sword because I want Sain to get more experience, although Kent ruins that by crit-killing a dude (really? You've got like 1 crit and you pulled it off? Wow). Everyone wanders around killing stuff. SO EVENTFUL!
Chapter 2
Everyone advances. Lyn has gained two levels now and gotten strength both times. Kind of neat, still no defense though, not that I'd ever expect her to actually be durable. Anyway. Sain breaks the wall because he's the only one strong enough to do it in two hits, Kent goes in and kills the boss, I stall a turn longer than needed to get an extra kill, we all live happily ever after now that Lyn has a new sword to use exclusively so her Iron one can go to Kent. "Yay"
Man, remember the good old days of early Sacred Stones when I could fit multiple chapters into one post? Nostalgic, isn't it?
Chapter 3
Kent kills an archer after Lyn trades him the Iron Sword, Florina recruits Wil and flies off to visit the other village and kill the Merc, Wil pokes the Merc because ???, Sain advances. Florina actually crit-kills a Bandit on enemy phase, albeit after taking enough damage for me to pull her out of the fight. Sain eventually gets the boss kill. "Yay".
Chapter 4
Hey, it's Dorcas. He has a modified version of Matthis Syndrome, in that he'll kill his own wife if you let him get close enough. Lyn goes over to recruit him, Florina follows because there will be Mercs there later, the cavaliers go south to wreak righteous vengeance on bandits, Wil goes west because he's dumb. Kent gets a bit more enemy phase action than I would have liked him to, but he lives because Lyn Mode enemies are jokes. Then he goes north, uses a Vulnerary to heal up, and...eats a critical hit from the enemy Merc. What. Dude, why are you sucking? He lives easily but still.
Florina gets a level up with both strength and defense. Impressive. Anyway on the final turn Sain kills the boss, who had been weakened a bit by Dorcas throwing his Hand Axe. "Yay". This is the best chapter yet, I guess.
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Yay, healer and mage. Kent is blocking axes with his pony today, sheesh. Sain charges around to kill dudes, everyone else works their way over the mountain/forest area, Florina flies to where she can fight a Merc. She kills it, Erk kills a bandit who drops an Iron Sword (?), Serra does some healing, Sain kills the boss after he and Kent each buy a Javelin. I win.
Chapter 6
Doors and switches and doors. So exciting. I get an Angelic Robe here, which I give to Florina in the hopes that she someday becomes able to survive attacks from enemies with actual strength. Anyway. We kill loldiers, step on switches, collect the Armorslayer but never use it because Erk and Lyn combine to kill the boss with ease. Oh yeah, Rath and Matthew join. Are you as thrilled as I am to have these totally wonderful characters?
Chapter 7
Yay Lucius, the guy everyone thinks is a girl. I'm actually going to be using him a fair bit because his solid avoid and weapon triangle advantage against annoying dark magic users will help later in the game, and C staffs on promotion is nice.
So Florina goes south to pick at a Shaman, Lucius kills the nearby Shaman with help from Nils, and Kent and Sain lead the advance. Oh yeah, we're fighting Black Fang guys now. I'm sure that's not a sign of things to come. Not like we'll be fighting these idiots for pretty much the entire middle of the game or anything. Florina breaks her Slim Lance here, so now she's stuck being weighed down by Iron forevermore. Kind of a shame. Oh, Sain kills the boss, Lucius kills stuff, Nils still has a long, boring way to go. I win, fyi.
Chapter 7x
Hey, it's the sidequest absolutely no one ever misses.
I'd be pretty ****ed if Ursula there decided to actually stick around and fight instead of leaving. But she does, so I can run around the map killing everything with ease because it's Lyn Mode and enemies fail at life. Lyn and Florina and Erk go kill the horsey and go after the mercs, Lucius mainly blasts at dudes inside that closed off room. Matthew gets treasure, Nils sings us a song (you're a singer, do me wrong, you're a bringer of evil, etc), Kent and Sain go nuke the boss and everything else along the way. Florina has decided to stop gaining strength. What a jerk.
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OMG ballista I'm so scared I'm going to send my Pegasus Knight to kill it because it's funny
Really. It doesn't even target her but it couldn't quite kill her even at her base level. So she kills the dude on it. Rath goes to deal with the mages and visit the village, everyone else goes south after Serra buys a few weapons to pass around in case they're needed. We kill things along the way. Lots of things. Then we get to the area with the reaver weapon enemies, who are extra easy to kill if you get the right weapon out against them. Kent does take some damage, but it's another case where everything in sight hitting him still wouldn't kill, so it gets cleaned up. Guess who got the boss kill? Hint: It's definitely not the strength-oriented cavalier in green who has taken nearly every other boss kill! Er, wait, yes it was.
Chapter 9
Fog of war, boo!
I don't want to put up with this map so I just go straight for the boss to end it as quickly as I can. You have no idea how much I'm already missing console-style Canto, every time I have to leave Florina or Kent or Sain in place after they kill a dude, I cringe. So I advance everyone to distract enemies so Sain and Lyn can head for the boss, then everyone else backs off and holds out by the bridge so they don't get swarmed to death. If you predicted that a certain green-wearing cavalier got the kill, you'd be absolutely...wrong. He weakened Eagler and Lyn took the kill.
Chapter 10
It's the final battle okay game's over after this. Man they really didn't make this a long game, did they?
Okay, for reals now. I can take this map slowly and milk reinforcements for EXP because I need to get Nils up to level 7 so I can go to 19xx later in the game. What a dumb requirement. Speaking of dumb, the rain on this map is a nuisance. It exists solely to slow down your movement and make the map take longer for no reason. It's not fun and it sucks.
Oh, the actual battle. Yeah, people advance. Kent and Sain in particular are so far beyond the enemies that it's not even funny. The people who I want to use in the main game get kills, everyone else just meanders around a bit like idiots while Nils levels up very, very slowly. Kent teases me at one point by reducing an enemy to 1HP, then leveling up and gaining the point of strength that would have let him kill. What a dick. Anyway, everyone chips away at Lundgren for a while and Lucius eventually gets the kill. Then I spend an eternity getting Nils to level up. God that's dumb.
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Two things worth pointing out: I glitched the game so the "rain" sound effect was playing even when it wasn't raining. That was kind of fun. Also, it took 21 straight turns of playing to get Nils to level 7. And I didn't exactly speed through this mode as quickly as I could of. Awful requirement, the developers who came up with that idea must have been drunk.
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