Board 8 > Michael Vick is a despicable human being.

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TheRock1525
07/31/11 1:10:00 PM
#51:


this is a terrible topic and everyone who's in here (including me) is terrible.

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BoshStrikesBack
07/31/11 1:11:00 PM
#52:


yes...by definition, if you enjoy inflicting pain on a living thing, you are a sociopath. you probably also have a mental illness

lol k

Did you ever think that maybe people enjoy the competitive side of dog-fighting, and that they're simply indifferent to the aspect of pain?

Also, "sociopath" isn't even defined as "enjoying giving pain." That would be sadism. Sociopathy is a complex web of behavioral characteristics that may or may not include thinking dog fighting is a hella good time.

Dog fighting is comparable to forcing two people to fight to the death.

Except it's, you know, dogs instead of people. You're operating under the assumption that dogs and people are equal, which is silly; people are obviously much better than dogs.

Internet insults make me laugh as the one doing the insulting usually has some kind of actual emotional stake in the situation..

Seriously now Andel, how many times have you called people's arguments "laughable," called people "sociopathic," told people they have "mental illnesses" for disagreeing with you?

How's that hypocrisy taste?

If you have to look back to feel bad on such sadistic torture, you're a scumbag.

Hell, I wouldn't regret it at all.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/31/11 1:14:00 PM
#53:


Andel posted...
If by 'tool' you mean 'someone with a different opinion' you are correct. Internet insults make me laugh as the one doing the insulting usually has some kind of actual emotional stake in the situation...if you dont like my stimulating topics you should probably stay away from them :-P

yeah see that's what I would always say. So-and-so isn't being a mindless douche, he just feels strongly about this subject and is posting about it. You've gone the way of others like biolizard and MWE in that you've made 90% of the board hate you when I can't see why, only to finally make me see why...

I guess I'm better off just hating everybody until given a reason not to >_>

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AxemRedRanger
07/31/11 1:16:00 PM
#54:


I suppose animals being my only real life friends does affect my opinion on this, but I'd consider dog fighting just about the worst thing someone could do aside from killing, raping, or torturing a human being.

So no, I'm not satisfied that Vick was adequately punished. If a serial rapist or murderer is released from prison, I'm not going to be okay with him just because he "did his time" and says he's sorry.
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beavis666x2
07/31/11 1:18:00 PM
#55:


Don't worry, it won't be long until he f***s up again and then gets another second chance.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/31/11 1:19:00 PM
#56:


AxemRedRanger posted...
I suppose animals being my only real life friends

No need to read any further. This half-sentence explains everything else in this user's post

who is Caelus?

Me. This is my main at the moment since I closed Caelus.

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baron von toast
07/31/11 1:21:00 PM
#57:


From: JaKyL25 | #047
So basically no one can ever realize the error of their ways after they've been caught?


Yes. I would contend that, regardless of how remorseful they are, any repentance is more the result of being sent to jail for doing some wrong rather than for actually doing something wrong. They knew full well it was wrong to begin with and did it anyway.

To be clear, I'm not talking some one-off impulse criminal act. I'm alright with people being sorry for "oopsie" crimes, even for something as heinous as murder. But being a major player in a dog fighting ring for an extended period of time isn't some "oh silly me what was I thinking."

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SubDeity
07/31/11 1:23:00 PM
#58:


I hope the people advocating eternal damnation for Vick are vegetarians, because raising a single cow for food is essentially worse than anything Vick did.

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beavis666x2
07/31/11 1:27:00 PM
#59:


From: SubDeity | #058
I hope the people advocating eternal damnation for Vick are vegetarians, because raising a single cow for food is essentially worse than anything Vick did.


Lol, no.

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Blulum
07/31/11 1:30:00 PM
#60:


I'm against dog fighting and everything, but Ray Lewis literally got away with murdering a human and is loved because he's good at football, there's no reason everyone should be attacking Vick this much when he actually did go to prison and take his punishment.

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Andel
07/31/11 1:32:00 PM
#61:


well...I honestly have no problem with you or anyone else hating me. (though I dont hate you or anyone else on this board) My reasons for posting here are for entertainment. I have enjoyed caelus topics therefore I like caelus regardless of your opinion of me. Leon is another example as he clearly has a problem with me, I think he is the most dedicated user on this board to this board (certainly more so than me). I am not trying to garner support, just posting in threads that I like or have an opinion about.

And bosh you have a way with twisting words...you seem intelligent otherwise, and I enjoy the verbal (or text based) jousting.

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Andel
07/31/11 1:34:00 PM
#62:


but ray lewis was acquitted (though I do think he is guilty and find him deplorable)

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entropyx
07/31/11 1:39:00 PM
#63:


Most people in Philadelphia hated him right away, and now most root for him because he wins.


That's just how it goes.


Uh, no. We disliked what he did and most people forgave him after seeing him completely turn his life around.

The man has paid his dues and honestly, the punishment was FAR more severe than the actual crimes he committed. But this country is so ass backwards in animal rights, that people feel the need to b**** and cry and protest because a few dogs got killed.

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entropyx
07/31/11 1:42:00 PM
#64:


Oh, and this topic is f***ing retarded, so please close it immediately. Go be an attention whore somewhere else. Thank you.

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ExThaNemesis
07/31/11 1:44:00 PM
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entropyx layin down dat troof.

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BoshStrikesBack
07/31/11 1:47:00 PM
#66:


And bosh you have a way with twisting words...you seem intelligent otherwise, and I enjoy the verbal (or text based) jousting.

Man, you're really bad at this "debating" thing. Here's a pointer for you: when a person makes an argument, you're supposed to respond to it directly instead of making these coy asides like you usually do.

And yeah, go ahead and close this topic.

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Andel
07/31/11 1:48:00 PM
#67:


sorry if you like vick...not gonna close the topic though. I guess it never hurts to ask 8-)

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Andel
07/31/11 1:51:00 PM
#68:


that would be good advice for you bosh...you seem to pick and choose what points you should contest (even when contesting the tp). same answer for you as far as this topics closure

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WazzupGenius00
07/31/11 1:54:00 PM
#69:


From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #053
You've gone the way of others like biolizard and MWE in that you've made 90% of the board hate you when I can't see why, only to finally make me see why...


I'm gonna assume you actually meant MWC there because there's no way in hell someone couldn't immediately see why nobody likes MWE

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crazyisgood
07/31/11 2:03:00 PM
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everyone has their flaws.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/31/11 2:28:00 PM
#71:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #053
You've gone the way of others like biolizard and MWE in that you've made 90% of the board hate you when I can't see why, only to finally make me see why...
I'm gonna assume you actually meant MWC there because there's no way in hell someone couldn't immediately see why nobody likes MWE


No I did mean MWE. When he first popped up within the past year, I remembered his username from a long time ago but no details about him . The first few topics and posting sprees in other topics seemed normal enough and in hindsight were not at all indicative of him as a user, so I didn't understand the hate. Once I saw posts/topics in which he really made clear who he was as a user, I understood completely.

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OctilIery
07/31/11 2:36:00 PM
#72:


entropyx posted...
Most people in Philadelphia hated him right away, and now most root for him because he wins.


That's just how it goes.

Uh, no. We disliked what he did and most people forgave him after seeing him completely turn his life around.

The man has paid his dues and honestly, the punishment was FAR more severe than the actual crimes he committed. But this country is so ass backwards in animal rights, that people feel the need to b**** and cry and protest because a few dogs got killed.


Actually, the punishment was far LESS severe. "a few dogs got killed" is not the same as "several animals were systematically tortured and abused for sport"

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Biolizard28
07/31/11 2:55:00 PM
#73:


Served his time, never did it again as far as we know.

I value all life, but I'm not going to condemn a man who at least knows enough not to repeat the same mistakes, and even seems to regret them to an extent.

And I don't particularly care what your stance on Vick is, but if you support dog fighting or its equivalents, you're a ****ing monster.

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Dark_Spiral
07/31/11 3:06:00 PM
#74:


His apology is really null and void since it came after he was sent to prison. There's no reason to believe it other than personal opinion. If he'd turned himself in before he'd gotten busted? I'd be more inclined to believe him. He's a great football player, don't get me wrong but as far as human beings go he ranks down past the middle of the ladder.
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WalrusJump
07/31/11 3:12:00 PM
#75:


what he did wasn't okay, but he did his time. let's all move on.

Donte Stallworth killed a guy while driving drunk. Ray Lewis probably killed a guy.

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swirIdude
07/31/11 3:21:00 PM
#76:


Andel topic.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
07/31/11 3:23:00 PM
#77:


people are still on Vick's balls?

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BoshStrikesBack
07/31/11 3:43:00 PM
#78:


Actually, the punishment was far LESS severe. "a few dogs got killed" is not the same as "several animals were systematically tortured and abused for sport"

Hey, Joyrock? We get it.

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Justin_Crossing
07/31/11 3:44:00 PM
#79:


From: swirIdude | #076
Andel topic.


so much

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OctilIery
07/31/11 4:14:00 PM
#80:


BoshStrikesBack posted...
Actually, the punishment was far LESS severe. "a few dogs got killed" is not the same as "several animals were systematically tortured and abused for sport"

Hey, Joyrock? We get it.


Apparently not if there are still outrageous comments like that.

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Seginustemple
07/31/11 4:47:00 PM
#81:


itt people who have tortured bugs = borderline sociopaths

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TsunamiXXVIII
07/31/11 4:50:00 PM
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Random topic to complain about old news.

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