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SBell0105 07/25/11 5:19:00 PM #51: |
The Wire is not a "Something happen every episode" show.
You need to look at each season of The Wire as 1 Episode. Watch the whole episode before you judge it. -- (\__/) (='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:20:00 PM #52: |
BoshStrikesBack posted...
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this isn't a troll topic. You talk about how it's like "reading half a book and then finishing it until the end"; except that it's not. You watched six episodes of a season that, while excellent in its own right, is in many respects mere exposition to the excellence of later seasons. Here are some trends in the show, however, that never change: -a slow, methodical pace -driven by character drama over plot drama -lots and lots of characters and relationships to remember If these things prevent you from enjoying what is universally regarded (even in this topic, except for yourself!) as an amazing piece of television, then I suppose it's your right not to continue. I'd also recommend looking into Michael Bay's Complete Works. I love character drama/relationships. I just dont think 13 hour long episodes of "exposition" is "BEST TV SHOW EVER" worthy. in fact, I'd go as far as to say it makes it one of the worst. -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mega Mana 07/25/11 5:20:00 PM #53: |
Yeah, just jump in the deep end. Go right into Season 4. I did it. My first season was S3. I watched all the episodes in three days with no idea what it was other than a show on HBO with a bunch of guys who were on Oz. The next three or four months were watching S4 as it aired, and S1 & 2 on Netflix. So I can't really say I've had that experience trying S1 for the first time.
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:21:00 PM #54: |
SBell0105 posted...
The Wire is not a "Something happen every episode" show. You need to look at each season of The Wire as 1 Episode. Watch the whole episode before you judge it. one 13 hour episode. why am I the only one that sees anything wrong with this? -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff Zero 07/25/11 5:21:00 PM #55: |
From: pxlated | #054 I dunno... you don't like serialization? -- Sir Chris Police ~Ace Detective in Homicide~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png "Thanks Punny!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:22:00 PM #56: |
and I dont expect something to happen every episode in a drama. but I certainly expect something interesting to happen in the first 6 hours. and the wire failed to do that.
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FreakinLincoln 07/25/11 5:23:00 PM #57: |
What could be wrong with it? It allows for a much deeper, intricate, and satisfying show than any of the more episodic shows where each episode has to end on a cliff-hanger to keep audiences tuning in. I love Mad Men but it has nothing on The Wire.
Also Party Down is great but it's not even in the top 100 shows of all time, much less the top 3. -- chumbucketeer fills cups like double-Ds. http://img.imgcake.com/chumpngej.png - Art by BIGPUN9999 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SBell0105 07/25/11 5:23:00 PM #58: |
pxlated, I'm not going to attack you for not liking the Wire, I gave up first season when it originally aired and then gave it another try years later. Now its in my Top 5 shows of all time.
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:24:00 PM #59: |
Jeff Zero posted...
From: pxlated | #054 one 13 hour episode. why am I the only one that sees anything wrong with this? I dunno... you don't like serialization? I love serialization. In fact, I love it so much that I don't really enjoy movies any more, because they can't develop nearly the way a TV show can. but that's no excuse to film 13 hours of almost nothing. that's wasteful and stupid. -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mega Mana 07/25/11 5:24:00 PM #60: |
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Jeff Zero 07/25/11 5:24:00 PM #61: |
From: pxlated | #060 Ah, OK. -- Sir Chris Police ~Ace Detective in Homicide~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png "Thanks Punny!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:25:00 PM #62: |
SBell0105 posted...
pxlated, I'm not going to attack you for not liking the Wire, I gave up first season when it originally aired and then gave it another try years later. Now its in my Top 5 shows of all time. What are your Top 5? man I dont even remember all the shows I've watched. to be honest, I love most shows that I watch! (I should make a list of everything I've watched sometime...) the fact that I am very easily pleased by television is a testament to how bad the wire is -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FreakinLincoln 07/25/11 5:26:00 PM #63: |
Do you just not like being challenged by the shows you watch?
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Coffee Ninja 07/25/11 5:26:00 PM #64: |
If you watch S4, I think you might enjoy S4, I think more "happens in each episode". You might decide to give the series another chance. Thats what I hope anyway.
Also Wire Season 4 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 5 yep. -- http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:27:00 PM #65: |
FreakinLincoln posted...
What could be wrong with it? It allows for a much deeper, intricate, and satisfying show than any of the more episodic shows where each episode has to end on a cliff-hanger to keep audiences tuning in. I love Mad Men but it has nothing on The Wire. Also Party Down is great but it's not even in the top 100 shows of all time, much less the top 3. never said it was top 3 (though it's probably close on my list). I just have a huge man-crush on adam scott. and no matter how many times I watch it, it makes me laugh harder than any other show (Except maybe archer. I have a very difficult time deciding which show I think is funnier) -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:28:00 PM #66: |
FreakinLincoln posted...
Do you just not like being challenged by the shows you watch? Nah, I enjoy this. Like I've said many times, I dont enjoy sitting through hours and hours and hours of boring to get to the good bits -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:28:00 PM #67: |
unless, by "challenging" you mean it's challenging to force yourself to keep watching it cause it's so boring
then yes, I dont like being challenged by tv shows -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:30:00 PM #68: |
Coffee Ninja posted...
If you watch S4, I think you might enjoy S4, I think more "happens in each episode". You might decide to give the series another chance. Thats what I hope anyway. Also Wire Season 4 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 5 yep. I'll probably try watching season 4 at some point. but as I've said before, I have no problem with there being episodes which not much happens except character/relationship development or whatever. but when nothing happens in 6 hour long episodes, that I have a problem with -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SBell0105 07/25/11 5:30:00 PM #69: |
From: pxlated | #062 ok, forget top 5. You are a very easily pleased by tv. So what pleases you? Just name some shows better than the wire -- (\__/) (='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mega Mana 07/25/11 5:30:00 PM #70: |
The more you post, the more I think you've already watched the full first season and are just being lulzy.
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Mega Mana 07/25/11 5:32:00 PM #71: |
pxlated posted...
never said it was top 3 (though it's probably close on my list). I just have a huge man-crush on adam scott. Ha, Adam Scott is awesome. Didn't know this until two weeks ago, but I thoroughly enjoyed this (mostly because I was a fan of the show growing up) -- So weve cornered Andy and Kyle in the Swarts stairwell and then this guy comes out of NO WHERE like ****ing Batman or something. ; ExTha is the man ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 07/25/11 5:34:00 PM #72: |
you keep saying that it takes hours and hours to get to the good bits
it does not there's good bits in every episode. in every minute. But the satisfying thing about the Wire is how it all comes together. Everyone has said this already, but if you watched the first half of the first season (or heck, the first half of the second season too for that matter), you won't be satisfied because you can't see how things come together. If the show didn't intrigue you the first half, then obviously it isn't for you. I'm not denying that. But to say 'nothing happens' while there's probably happening more in one episode of The Wire than half a season of Mad Men (and that is one of my favourite shows too, but it's completely different) is just ridiculous. -- http://img.imgcake.com/VincentLauw/ILOVEGOLFgifva.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:36:00 PM #73: |
Mega Mana posted...
The more you post, the more I think you've already watched the full first season and are just being lulzy. why so? I haven't. Sure, I'm playing it up a bit but I really believe it's not a good show. and, Sbell, as far as TV shows I think are better than the wire: Mad Men Breaking Bad Party Down Archer Parks N Rec certain seasons of Skins Fawlty Towers Wilfred (AU) Twin Peaks Misfits Louie BSG (excluding season 4, again) Cowboy Bebop Californication (yep) Veronica Mars and lost more I can't remember right now! (pretty much every show I've watched all the way through. though I never actually finished BSG because it got so terrible at the end) -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punch_Sideiron 07/25/11 5:39:00 PM #74: |
pxlated posted...
certain seasons of Skins Really? I mean, I've never watched the Wire, because it's just not the type of show I like. But how could anyone like (either version of) Skins? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:40:00 PM #75: |
Punch_Sideiron posted...
pxlated posted... certain seasons of Skins Really? I mean, I've never watched the Wire, because it's just not the type of show I like. But how could anyone like (either version of) Skins? the UK version is actually really good, thanks. baring seasons 3 and 4. -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punch_Sideiron 07/25/11 5:42:00 PM #76: |
pxlated posted...
the UK version is actually really good, thanks. baring seasons 3 and 4. Huh, I just don't get it personally. But I can't say anything bad about your taste because Fawlty Towers is on your list. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mega Mana 07/25/11 5:42:00 PM #77: |
pxlated posted...
Mega Mana posted... The more you post, the more I think you've already watched the full first season and are just being lulzy. why so? I haven't. Sure, I'm playing it up a bit but I really believe it's not a good show. and, Sbell, as far as TV shows I think are better than the wire: Mad Men Breaking Bad Party Down Archer Parks N Rec certain seasons of Skins Fawlty Towers Wilfred (AU) Twin Peaks Misfits Louie BSG (excluding season 4, again) Cowboy Bebop Californication (yep) Veronica Mars and lost more I can't remember right now! (pretty much every show I've watched all the way through. though I never actually finished BSG because it got so terrible at the end) You may be wrong on your stance with The Wire, but you've got great taste otherwise. -- "And the theoretical maximum is 2880 messages, so I was only performing at 45.94% posting efficiency." - Luster Soldier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:42:00 PM #78: |
heres some more:
Tell Me You Love Me Tim and Eric Awesome Show: Great Job! Chuck (yep, even this is better than the wire) FFFF I'm drawing blanks. watch too many shows and I dont keep track -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 07/25/11 5:43:00 PM #79: |
And I really hate it when people call The Wire slowpaced
it is not. They just delve deeper into the details than any other show I've seen. They don't tend to focus on action too much. If you call that slow paced, then sure. But there's lots more going on in one season of the wire than there is in multiple seasons of other shows. Which is why the show tends to be so satisfying when you (or someone like McNulty) connect all the dots -- http://img.imgcake.com/dancingguygifry.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bran_Stark 07/25/11 5:44:00 PM #80: |
Lets list all the shows better than The Wire.
Oh, that's right, there are none. -- Winter is coming ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffee Ninja 07/25/11 5:45:00 PM #81: |
From: pxlated | #078 gross. -- http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:46:00 PM #82: |
VincentLauw posted...
And I really hate it when people call The Wire slowpaced it is not. They just delve deeper into the details than any other show I've seen. They don't tend to focus on action too much. If you call that slow paced, then sure. But there's lots more going on in one season of the wire than there is in multiple seasons of other shows. Which is why the show tends to be so satisfying when you (or someone like McNulty) connect all the dots This is a fairly valid point. I dont consider it slow paced because there's no action, though. but I still firmly believe that the "pulling together of all the little details" does not excuse nothing very interesting happening halfway into the season -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FreakinLincoln 07/25/11 5:47:00 PM #83: |
Yeah, the UK Skins is great. I liked the first two seasons well enough, the third was pretty crap, the fourth got ****ing amazing toward the end, and the fifth is my favorite by far.
The US Skins is awful and I'm glad it got cancelled, but the UK version is great. -- chumbucketeer fills cups like double-Ds. http://img.imgcake.com/chumpngej.png - Art by BIGPUN9999 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 07/25/11 5:47:00 PM #84: |
zing
my favourite ten shows The Wire Six Feet Under The Sopranos Scrubs Mad Men The Shield Breaking Bad Community Arrested Development It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia roughly in that order -- http://img.imgcake.com/wappydoggif2gifzy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:47:00 PM #85: |
Bran_Stark posted...
Lets list all the shows better than The Wire. Oh, that's right, there are none. what's that? all I hear is bleating. -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SBell0105 07/25/11 5:48:00 PM #86: |
From: VincentLauw | #084 ugh. -- (\__/) (='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bran_Stark 07/25/11 5:48:00 PM #87: |
How is this not riveting and entertaining? Also, totally NSFW. -- Winter is coming ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffee Ninja 07/25/11 5:48:00 PM #88: |
From: VincentLauw | #084 Now this is a quality list, some of my favorites on there, some I don't care for too much but don't think are bad, I just like them less than some. -- http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FreakinLincoln 07/25/11 5:48:00 PM #89: |
Vince does Belgium not make good television?
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VincentLauw 07/25/11 5:49:00 PM #90: |
From: pxlated | #082 If you mean with interesting some kind of stunning revelation or action scene, then yeah, no. But I'd say there's lots of interesting stuff going on in the first half of season one. Which is very much so the worst part of the show (only gets better from there), but still really enjoyable for me. As I said, I don't see why anyone would continue watching if they don't like that (I agree with you on that), but maybe that's just me. -- http://www.myspace.com/moresomebelgium My totally rad band, yo. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:49:00 PM #91: |
FreakinLincoln posted...
Yeah, the UK Skins is great. I liked the first two seasons well enough, the third was pretty crap, the fourth got ****ing amazing toward the end, and the fifth is my favorite by far. The US Skins is awful and I'm glad it got cancelled, but the UK version is great. hell yeah season 5 love. it's definitely my favorite too -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 07/25/11 5:49:00 PM #92: |
From: FreakinLincoln | #089 Oh there are some quality shows in Belgium, certainly the last few years. Just none I consider to be really among my favourites -- http://img.imgcake.com/dancingguygifry.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:50:00 PM #93: |
VincentLauw posted...
From: pxlated | #082 but I still firmly believe that the "pulling together of all the little details" does not excuse nothing very interesting happening halfway into the season If you mean with interesting some kind of stunning revelation or action scene, then yeah, no. But I'd say there's lots of interesting stuff going on in the first half of season one. Which is very much so the worst part of the show (only gets better from there), but still really enjoyable for me. As I said, I don't see why anyone would continue watching if they don't like that (I agree with you on that), but maybe that's just me. are you not reading my posts or something? I'm all about small details and character development and that crap. but literally the only interesting thing that happened in the hours I watched was the fact that the black drug dealer was gay. literally the only interesting thing. -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Theo72 07/25/11 5:51:00 PM #94: |
[19:46] <Gylgamesh> the wire
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Theo72 07/25/11 5:53:00 PM #95: |
That wasn't a misquote. Also, who the hell is AdamWes?
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:53:00 PM #96: |
Theo72 posted...
[19:46] <Gylgamesh> the wire [19:46] <pxl> it's awesome 19:44:21] <numbers> man, it is kinda funny that you're literally the only person who has posted in the entire topic who dislikes the wire [19:46:13] <AdamWes> it's awesome thanks for misquoting me, though! though, on second thought, it may have been more interesting to let people believe I actually like the show -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 07/25/11 5:53:00 PM #97: |
From: pxlated | #093 Well then we don't find the same things interesting do we? No need to get hostile about it, you're acting like I'm going 'LOL YOU JUST SUCK' like some other people in this thread. Maybe I just needed to do that instead of actually trying to start conversation or something. -- http://img.imgcake.com/dancingguygifry.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:53:00 PM #98: |
Theo72 posted...
That wasn't a misquote. Also, who the hell is AdamWes? thats my name, bromine -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bran_Stark 07/25/11 5:53:00 PM #99: |
pxlated posted...
VincentLauw posted... From: pxlated | #082 but literally the only interesting thing that happened in the hours I watched was the fact that the black drug dealer was gay. literally the only interesting thing. This proves that you weren't really following it well since Omar is not a dealer. He rips the dealers off and gives away the goods. Like Robin Hood. -- Winter is coming ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pxlated 07/25/11 5:54:00 PM #100: |
Bran_Stark posted...
pxlated posted... VincentLauw posted... From: pxlated | #082 but literally the only interesting thing that happened in the hours I watched was the fact that the black drug dealer was gay. literally the only interesting thing. This proves that you weren't really following it well since Omar is not a dealer. He rips the dealers off and gives away the goods. Like Robin Hood. same f***ing difference. he gives drugs to people. he is a drug dealer. one with a bad business model, but a drug dealer nonetheless -- [various robot sounds] http://www.last.fm/user/pxlation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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