Board 8 > Who are the candidates to replace Obama?

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Or is Obama sort of a lock to stay in office or whatever?

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The most prominent is probably Mitt Romney. Then a smorgasbord of Republican candidates after him.....Ron Paul, Michelle Bachmann, and lots of others.

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doesnt matter, anyone who's got the money to run isn't going to change anything, its just different names with the same ideas

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No one. The only one with a semi realistic chance is Mitt Romney (the rest of the Republican candidates are a bunch of loons), and Romney's isn't a very good one

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_primaries,_2012

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I hate Obama, but I acknowledge the GOP has no one to oust him. Romney is a longshot that won't really happen.

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Romney is Republicans best chance. But once Obama got Bin Ladin, I think that pretty much won him the election

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_stingers_ posted...
doesnt matter, anyone who's got the money to run isn't going to change anything, its just different names with the same ideas

The GOP is an amazingly effective political party, but it's about time they stopped using the full faith and credit of the country as leverage.

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doesnt matter, anyone who's got the money to run isn't going to change anything, its just different names with the same ideas

deep bro

As of now, Romney's the Republican frontrunner, but he's not going to win if he gets the bid. It's never easy to oust an incumbent, and Romney's religion and reputation for flip-flopping will hold him back even further. However, were someone like Rick Perry to run (and by most reports, that's becoming more and more likely) on a grassroots, back-to-basics conservative platform, then the party would have a chance. Maybe.

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SlymDayspring posted...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_primaries,_2012

Oh my God, that last guy in the list of candidates made me lol.

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Oh my God, that last guy in the list of candidates made me lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathon_Sharkey this guy for president, 2012

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It's a weak field in my opinion. Of the dozen+ candidates, a grand total of zero are currently in the Senate or serving as governors. Know the last time someone who wasn't a sitting Senator or Governor won the presidency? Eisenhower over 50 years ago, and he was a WWII hero. The few candidates currently in government are all in the House of Representatives. Know the last time someone went from the House to the Presidency? James Garfield over 130 years ago, and I think he's one of only a few who have ever done so.

Judging by the way things are looking, this will only change if Texas Governor Rick Perry throws his hat in, and he may have the best shot of defeating front runner Romney. However, it's starting to get late now, and a Palin announcement could steal the thunder from everyone. I think Perry could make a more formidable general opponent than Romney, but Obama's sly campaign could use the war chest for some stinging "remember the last Governor from Texas" ads. People still hate Bush.

Either way, yeah, Obama will be very difficult to beat, and I don't think the Republicans will field anyone who has the chops to do it.

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Bin Laden's dead. Obama's a lock

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Rick Perry has a major problem in the last Texas governor who became president, yeah.

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Actually, yes. Civil War: I'm With Sharkey

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the only candidate that gives a damn about america is ron paul.

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FateStayAlbion posted...
Romney is Republicans best chance. But once Obama got Bin Ladin, I think that pretty much won him the election


This.


*blastin' off, yo*

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People aren't going to give a damn about Bin Laden come election time if the economy doesn't improve by then.

(SPOILERS: it won't)

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the only man who can beat Obama

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1052897684001/president-ron-paul-or-bust/

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ron paul should be the only viable candidate...he is the only one with sensible ideas about the economy and foreign affairs, and the only candidate that will actually uphold the constitution.

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shadosneko posted...
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Oh my God, that last guy in the list of candidates made me lol.
this guy for president, 2012

Wow, a sort-of satanist pro-wrestler who considers himself a vampire and drinks pig blood. Man, I hope they put him on televised debates!


Anyhow, either Romney or Ron Paul would be fine with me.

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The Republicans have a small additional advantage however, since several Republican states have gained Representatives while lots of Democratic states have lost Representatives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElectoralCollege2012.svg

It amazes me however that the GOP can dish out dozens of candidates, yet none of them show any decency other than Romney and Paul, who have some good points and most importantly, sense.

As horrible as Obama is, he is easily the best candidate from a major party. It looks as if I will be voting for a lesser party candidate though. Nader I guess if he runs again.

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GOP has no candidates with any chance of winning

and yet, Obama would have to do something amazing to win with this economy, so perhaps that can elevate one of these losers to contender status?

either way, you are all out of your mind if you think ron paul is even part of the conversation.

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Ron Paul is either going to win the election as the Republican candidate, or hand it to Obama as a third party candidate.

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lmao @ last guy

If it were up to me, Huntsman would get the nom. But he probably won't. And honestly, no one on the field can take Obama down. At least not at their current level.

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Can someone explain why Ron Paul is a "joke candidate"?

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SmartMuffin posted...
Ron Paul is either going to win the election as the Republican candidate, or win it as a third party candidate.

We can dream right?

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Ron Paul is either going to win the election as the Republican candidate, or hand it to Obama as a third party candidate.

he will do neither. how in the world would he win the primary? the majority of his party does not agree with his message more than the other candidates, and he certainly does not have the party backing/funding/media attention of others.

and how in the world would he win the election? are you ****ing kidding?

his impact as a third party candidate would be negligible. he does not have the funding.

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Can someone explain why Ron Paul is a "joke candidate"?

he does not have the support of anyone in the media/his party.

which is what it requires to win.

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A 3rd party candidate can't hand it to anyone in our political system.

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A 3rd party candidate can't hand it to anyone in our political system.

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Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity.

If Teddy Roosevelt couldn't win as a 3rd party candidate, it's never going to happen.

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Samurai7 posted...
A 3rd party candidate can't hand it to anyone in our political system.

Ross Perot says hi.

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ross perot was a billionaire who could self fund. ron paul can't do that.

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PFFFFT

Fundraising is so 20th century. This is the age of LOL SOCIAL MEDIA! If Ron Paul can go viral like no one else ever has, he can do something!

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Anyone who would like to honestly learn more about Ron Paul without just relying on ignorant trolls should consult my topic about him. It's full of useful information!

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you could argue that about ANY candidate. ron paul raised a lot of money from social media in 2008 and still did not win the primary. and Obama will probably raise more from social media than any republican candidate, even ron paul.

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Ross Perot says hi.

yeah he was a great president

oh wait

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Samurai7 posted...
Ross Perot says hi.

yeah he was a great president

oh wait

Apparently you have no idea what it means for a 3rd party candidate to hand the election to someone.

LOL

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Yeah, a lot of people seem to forget (or just don't know in the first place) that Perot was actually leading in the polls before he dropped out of the race (before re-entering).

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Ron Paul will win the GOP candidacy if a large meteorite comes in and kills Michelle Bachmann, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman, Tim Pawlenty and Rick Perry. At which point he'll have to fight Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, and possibly Chris Christie in what will commonly be known as "The race to be the worst loser in presidential election history". He's gonna continue getting just under 10% in primaries until he just retires from politics, at which point one of his sons will take his place whenever they turn 55.

It's Romney or Bachmann at this point, unless Perry steps in. Bachmann is looking to win Iowa, Romney to win NH, probably Bachmann again in SC, at which point it really depends if crazy or "sane" wins out. (crazy=Bachmann, "sane"=Romney)

Fundraising is so 20th century. This is the age of LOL SOCIAL MEDIA! If Ron Paul can go viral like no one else ever has, he can do something!

Literally every Ron Paul supporter said this during the '08 campaign, and literally every Ron Paul supporter was wrong.

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That said, I'm gonna register Republican and primary for Bachmann, because there's no way that crazy **** is gonna make it to office.

Based on the way their campaigns will presumably be won, Jon Huntsman is the only Republican candidate with a real shot at beating Obama, IMO, as he's the only one with the potential to run a positive campaign.

Positive campaigns are way more effective than negative campaigns, at least on a national level. The last person (Clinton) to unseat the sitting president didn't win because he ran as the anti-Bush. He ran with his own message. I don't see why candidates nowadays attack each other as much as they do when they have enough proxies in the media/blogosphere to do it for them.

Ron Paul is the only other Republican candidate who would run not a mostly anti-Obama campaign, but I doubt he could win a general election.

The Paul > Obama > Romney people make no sense. Unless you're only voting on foreign affairs, or based on personality, this chain of preference makes no sense to me.

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