I'm going to make an honest attempt to get into Soccer, and the EPL seems like a good place to go for when there's no USA to root for
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Tottenham because we're good without being insufferable c***s, you wouldn't be considered a glory-hunting typical foreign fan (like ExTha LOL) for supporting Spurs but there wouldn't be much danger of relegation
Also we play very nice, attractive football at times and we're not just buying every player in sight "just because we've got the money to do it" like Real Madrid/Chelsea/Man City
Oh and it starts in mid-August, can't remember the date
Iamdead7 posted... You're forgetting, I don't know who any of these people are.
Brad Friedel is like legendary for you guys afaik.
He played 82 games for the United States national team between 1992 and 2005, and represented his country at three FIFA World Cup tournaments. He is the current holder of the Premier League record for most consecutive appearances with 275 (as of 22 May 2011).
I don't know how to research them because I know f*** all about Soccer
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The box says "Online Gameplay not rated by ESRB", I should be able to trade my phallic named Wobbufetts to a bunch of 8 year olds. - MarvelousGerbil
Tottenham because we're good without being insufferable c***s,
Don't listen to this man. Tottenham are in fact chock-full of insufferable c***s.
Support Arsenal. You can't be accused of gloryhunting because we don't win anything, but we play the best football in the country, and have a real cast of characters on our team. Also, on our day we can beat anyone. We just had a Champions League final between Man United and Barcelona, and there's only one team in the world that had beaten both of them last year. That was Arsenal.
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I'm not a Yankees/Duke kind of guy, but the team I root for will have to be somewhat good or I'll lose interest rapidly
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The box says "Online Gameplay not rated by ESRB", I should be able to trade my phallic named Wobbufetts to a bunch of 8 year olds. - MarvelousGerbil
Iamdead7 posted... I'm not a Yankees/Duke kind of guy, but the team I root for will have to be somewhat good or I'll lose interest rapidly
You do sound exactly like a Tottenham fan tbqh
Make no mistake, people who support Arsenal are considered glory hunters/bandwagoners. Mostly because in 2004 they won the league without losing the game for only the second time in the history of English football, and they are very often in the league title picture towards the end of the season and go deep into trophies.
ExTha saying they "never win anything" is very misleading. Some teams go decades without winning anything, Arsenal going 5 years without one isn't some devastating winless streak
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And honestly people that jump to the whole 'glory hunter/bandwagoner' thing don't matter in the first place. They're usually the bad sports fans who can't actually argue so they have to default back to that.
-- ExTha Proposition hatred, phosphorous in riverbeds. Billion dollars spilled to fill esophogas with cigarettes.
But yeah I can't advocate against rooting for Everton or Fulham. There's much worse that you could root for, and Howard/Dempsey are both hell'a awesome.
-- ExTha Proposition hatred, phosphorous in riverbeds. Billion dollars spilled to fill esophogas with cigarettes.
From: XIII_rocks | #029 Supporting anyone in the old "top 4" (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd) as well as Man City is considered gloryhunting, Ex.
No offence but that's just indicative of how long you've been following the sport >_>
once again, only by people who don't matter. Met an Everton supporter yesterday at my restaurant, his family was visiting some friends or something.
We talked for like a half hour and he kept turning and saying to his sons "This lad knows his football."
The people that jump to "bandwagoner" are the ones who don't know you, and want to discredit you without actually talking to you, OR they're deliberately trying to upset you like Swift does with me. They don't have an actual argument and they don't matter.
-- ExTha Proposition hatred, phosphorous in riverbeds. Billion dollars spilled to fill esophogas with cigarettes.
ExThaNemesis posted... No offence but that's just indicative of how long you've been following the sport >_> once again, only by people who don't matter. Met an Everton supporter yesterday at his restaurant, his family was visiting some friends or something.
We talked for like a half hour and he kept turning and saying to his sons "This lad knows his football."
The people that jump to "bandwagoner" are the ones who don't know you, and want to discredit you without actually talking to you, OR they're deliberately trying to upset you like Swift does with me. They don't have an actual argument and they don't matter.
You can be a gloryhunter while still knowing about the sport.
I have discussed this with you many times, and I consider you a gloryhunter/bandwagoner when it comes to football. It doesn't make you a bad person, it doesn't mean you know nothing about the game, but it's still there.
I think you're just a bit hypersensitive about this >_> You've been called a bandwagoner so often you are trying to pre-empt it by saying "DON'T LISTEN TO THOSE GUYS THEY DON'T MATTER"
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I'm saying they don't matter because if you let them matter then you get the situation on board 8 I've had to put up with for the past 4-5 years where idiots just say "hurr bandwagoner" and try to discredit everything you say even though you can argue circles around them.
-- ExTha Proposition hatred, phosphorous in riverbeds. Billion dollars spilled to fill esophogas with cigarettes.
I mean, just what you said earlier. "Supporting Arsenal can't be gloryhunting because we never win anything"
Do you not see why I am calling you out on this? Going trophyless since 2005 is not a bad thing in football. There are only 4 trophies available per season and you've got dozens of teams in competition with you.
However, being in the title hunt until the final ~5 games of the season and going deep into tournaments every time, having gone unbeaten for only the second time in English football history? Yeah...
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The box says "Online Gameplay not rated by ESRB", I should be able to trade my phallic named Wobbufetts to a bunch of 8 year olds. - MarvelousGerbil
Also to try and say that Arsenal fans want all of the smooth with none of the rough is so hysterical. Just look at the f***ing Carling Cup final this year lol
-- ExTha Proposition hatred, phosphorous in riverbeds. Billion dollars spilled to fill esophogas with cigarettes.
Do you not see why I am calling you out on this? Going trophyless since 2005 is not a bad thing in football. There are only 4 trophies available per season and you've got dozens of teams in competition with you.
However, being in the title hunt until the final ~5 games of the season and going deep into tournaments every time, having gone unbeaten for only the second time in English football history? Yeah...
Well I've only been following since 2006. The first full Arsenal game I watched was Paris, so you can understand my sentiment.
-- ExTha Proposition hatred, phosphorous in riverbeds. Billion dollars spilled to fill esophogas with cigarettes.
ExThaNemesis posted... I'm saying they don't matter because if you let them matter then you get the situation on board 8 I've had to put up with for the past 4-5 years where idiots just say "hurr bandwagoner" and try to discredit everything you say even though you can argue circles around them.
Being a bandwagoner gives everyone a headstart though.
The vast majority of people over here would instantly look at you and think "jesus christ that guy is short". Then they'd think "Hmm, an American Arsenal fan? Glory hunter." And you still would be even after you argued circles around them. Your knowledge about the sport doesn't change that, it just means you got more into it than your average casual douchebag.
And they just wouldn't matter to me until they actually started talking to me, saw that I could argue circles around them, and then got like you where you actually take me quite seriously when it comes to football because I know my s***.
At least for an American anyway.
-- ExTha Proposition hatred, phosphorous in riverbeds. Billion dollars spilled to fill esophogas with cigarettes.
ExThaNemesis posted... Also to try and say that Arsenal fans want all of the smooth with none of the rough is so hysterical. Just look at the f***ing Carling Cup final this year lol
More like gloryhunters in general
Also, that's what they want, not necessarily what happens. I'm sure the legions of people who started supporting Chelsea after they were taken over by Abramovich thought they'd be able to casually support them and smugly enjoy them winning the league every year, but they have not dominated the game in the way they were "expected" to. These people wanted all the smooth and none of the rough, but that's not what they got.
There's no give and take. For example, getting into the CL was made that much sweeter by "lasagnagate", for instance.
Well I've only been following since 2006. The first full Arsenal game I watched was Paris, so you can understand my sentiment.
I understand it, definitely, but in my view you lack perspective. In a big, big way.
I don't lack perspective. I know what it's like to cheer for futile teams.
I mean I can understand how people would think Arsenal fans would be gloryhunters, if that's what you're saying that I'm missing. I'm just countering by saying that they don't matter. No one who shouts "gloryhunter" in a serious manner does.
-- ExTha Proposition hatred, phosphorous in riverbeds. Billion dollars spilled to fill esophogas with cigarettes.