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What does it means when people say they don't want politics in games?

It means they don't want to see anybody except a cis straight white male as the main character, or ideally all characters. And any women in the game had damn well better be mostly naked.

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No, that can't be right.
They would call it "normal" and "political"

It means multiple things depending on who says it.
For some it means no minorities, no women (unless they are nude and objects), no messages, do not touch "liberal" subjects unless it's mockery.

For others it means they don't mind such things but they want it to be done well and not some awkward hamfisted message where characters only exist to deliver a statement of the developer or writers, where they may as well look directly into the camera to lecture the player on whatever.

There are other meanings too but those are the two biggest in my opinion.

No, that can't be right.
They would call it "normal" and "political"

What are the politics of Berserk?

I know very little about it beyond the character being plucked from a corpse's womb, the creator of the universe being evil, and the girl who looks like tomboy Lois Lane _____dying_____.

I could presume an antiwar and/or antireligious message from that alone, but I don't want to presume. I'm asking.

Two of the three things you said are untrue. The original chapter showing the "God" of that universe has been de-canonized, so we don't even know if that plot element is still around. But it's a god created by mankind inadvertently that perpetuates suffering in the world, so it's not a creator type of god.

Berserk definitely has some "anti-religious establishment" elements. But despite being probably the grimdark series, it's still mostly about perseverance through adversity and healing from trauma. There's probably other more prominent themes, but I haven't kept up with it since the author passed, so it's been a while.

Thanks for clarifying, but what's the political side of it?

This is a good concise summation of most of it too.

How exactly is the reason + the dogwhistle a "good concise summation"? It's just the first one, the latter is just the same old garbage that falls apart upon any scrutiny. No one ever whines about "hamfisted" when it's something they like, no one ever decides that bad writing is something else whenever it involves non-women/minorities. It's only when it's garbage Republican BS that suddenly it goes from "bad X" to "too political", and the actual quality of the work/its overtness/etc. never comes into play. At no point is it anything more than skinhead nonsense.

For instance, in that crappy Cats movie they overtly did a real heavy amount of gay erasure. Like, they removed all non-hetero romances and even turned one of the lesbians into a villain of sorts. It was "political" from top to bottom in the same way that including a non-straight character is magically political: it isn't, but a bunch of people really hate it when marginalized people aren't being repressed. Now try and find a single person ever calling that crappy movie political. It's crappily written, it's hamfisted: show me that one person doing exactly what the dogwhistle promises and starts complaining about its political messaging.

Youre conflating two different things, is the point. People criticizing the stuff in the latter bit actually levy those criticisms, and they may or may not mention political as part of them, but they get lumped in with the first group exactly the way youre doing here.

As for your example, Id have to know a single person whod even heard of much less watched a Cats movie (or the musical for that matter) first, and I dont.

The types of chuds who say that are incapable of recognizing politics in entertainment unless it is super obvious to the point of beating them over the head, so I can understand why they would find that annoying. Give them a nuanced story and they don't even know it's referencing things in the real world

We are on the Internet, find anyone across the largest source of whiny people who made the complaint. A. Single. One.

Don't be coy. They get lumped with the first group because they are always the first group. All that changes is whether or not they are in polite company. Similarly I don't give a crap if you know someone personally who knows of one of the most famous musicals that was turned into a massive meme in the same vein as Palworld for a while here (ie. there were enough topics about it to the point that you can't pretend that you missed it). We are on the Internet, find anyone across the largest source of whiny people who made the complaint. A. Single. One.

How exactly is the reason + the dogwhistle a "good concise summation"? It's just the first one, the latter is just the same old garbage that falls apart upon any scrutiny. No one ever whines about "hamfisted" when it's something they like, no one ever decides that bad writing is something else whenever it involves non-women/minorities. It's only when it's garbage Republican BS that suddenly it goes from "bad X" to "too political", and the actual quality of the work/its overtness/etc. never comes into play. At no point is it anything more than skinhead nonsense.

For instance, in that crappy Cats movie they overtly did a real heavy amount of gay erasure. Like, they removed all non-hetero romances and even turned one of the lesbians into a villain of sorts. It was "political" from top to bottom in the same way that including a non-straight character is magically political: it isn't, but a bunch of people really hate it when marginalized people aren't being repressed. Now try and find a single person ever calling that crappy movie political. It's crappily written, it's hamfisted: show me that one person doing exactly what the dogwhistle promises and starts complaining about its political messaging.

Do not forget the people who glorified the poorly written Bayonetta/Luka "romance" if you can even call it that and called everybody who criticised how bad it was "tRiGErEd bY hEtEro"

How exactly is the reason + the dogwhistle a "good concise summation"? It's just the first one, the latter is just the same old garbage that falls apart upon any scrutiny. No one ever whines about "hamfisted" when it's something they like, no one ever decides that bad writing is something else whenever it involves non-women/minorities. It's only when it's garbage Republican BS that suddenly it goes from "bad X" to "too political", and the actual quality of the work/its overtness/etc. never comes into play. At no point is it anything more than skinhead nonsense.

For instance, in that crappy Cats movie they overtly did a real heavy amount of gay erasure. Like, they removed all non-hetero romances and even turned one of the lesbians into a villain of sorts. It was "political" from top to bottom in the same way that including a non-straight character is magically political: it isn't, but a bunch of people really hate it when marginalized people aren't being repressed. Now try and find a single person ever calling that crappy movie political. It's crappily written, it's hamfisted: show me that one person doing exactly what the dogwhistle promises and starts complaining about its political messaging.

Do not forget the people who glorified the poorly written Bayonetta/Luka "romance" if you can even call it that and called everybody who criticised how bad it was "tRiGErEd bY hEtEro"

They don't want politics that they disagree with in their media, is what most people who say this means.

To be fair, outside of the combat, Bayonetta 3 just wasn't really good at anything else. The story was garbo and what they ended up doing to the characters should piss people off more than what Rocksteady did to Batman, but didn't happen because almost no one knows Bayonetta 3 even exists.

They don't want politics that they disagree with in their media, is what most people who say this means.

They don't want politics that they disagree with in their media, is what most people who say this means.

People hate feeling challenged.

Either they are media illiterate, close-minded, or brainwashed. They often usually consume really bad anime as well and act as if it is peak entertainment

People hate feeling challenged.

Either they are media illiterate, close-minded, or brainwashed. They often usually consume really bad anime as well and act as if it is peak entertainment

How exactly is the reason + the dogwhistle a "good concise summation"? It's just the first one, the latter is just the same old garbage that falls apart upon any scrutiny. No one ever whines about "hamfisted" when it's something they like, no one ever decides that bad writing is something else whenever it involves non-women/minorities. It's only when it's garbage Republican BS that suddenly it goes from "bad X" to "too political", and the actual quality of the work/its overtness/etc. never comes into play. At no point is it anything more than skinhead nonsense.