Current Events > City plans to scrap sub minimum wage law for tipped workers, people complain

(+) Yeah! (+)

Good.
Let prices reflect real costs so decent people aren't stuck subsidizing assholes (non-tipper) and ultimately overpaying throughout.

Sucks for servers in that area, they'll make less money now.

So prices will go up to cover the wage increase and you'll still be expected to tip

So prices will go up to cover the wage increase and you'll still be expected to tip

I dont see prices going up that much.

It wouldn't because the math doesn't support it and it's insane to think so.

They would, but not because they needed to. Just because businesses will use it as an excuse to get more money, and it's an excuse people will believe.

People making good tips don't want it to change. Their opinion doesn't outweigh customers wanting tips to go away though.

Prices will definitely go up, there's no need to be dishonest about that part.

Nobody is saying they wont.
It just won't go up 1:1 to where tips were. If the standard tip is 20%, we wont see prices go up 20%.

For the record, I'm 100% for getting rid of tip culture and the misconception that it's the grocery store worker making minimum wages moral obligation to make sure the waitress makes 15+/hour after tips. That responsibility and moral obligation is 100% on the employer.

The tipping scam is far too ingrained in American society at this point

Darkbuster did by saying it won't go up because it needs to, but because of excuses to.

We actually don't know if a 60% increase will result in only a marginal increase in prices.

We actually don't know . . . Every area that increased their minimum wages did it very slowly between 5-7 years, to account for stuff like this.

I'll even go a step further, we should stop subsidizing meat production and subsidize healthy produce & grains (not corn fuck you HFCS producers) as to encourage healthier, CHEAPER, MUCH MUCH FUCKING CHEAPER options.

People making good tips don't want it to change. Their opinion doesn't outweigh customers wanting tips to go away though.

Or, you know, stop playing kingmaker and let the market decide.

Or, you know, stop playing kingmaker and let the market decide.

Or, you know, stop playing kingmaker and let the market decide.

I'm pretty sure he's referring to excessive price increases that I was talking about and not simply what's necessary to account for the pay increase.

It's so obvious how you're trying to frame the narrative by shifting the discussion to the relative wage increase as a % when they're making fucking peanuts on their check.
Twenty percent looks too low so you're trying to get illiterate reactionaries to lose it over 60%.

We actually have stats. Labor costs for restaurants are only about 30%. (And don't forget that's not all servers.)
If we assume half that is servers and just double their wages (instead of +60%), that means costs only go up... 15%. Meaning prices only need to go up, 15%.

Or we could just look at almost every other country on the planet.