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Sometimes you go so hard you don't even know you've gone hard at all until you are at the gates of heaven wondering if this must be hell or if everything is truly over. Are you done? Is this Universe a lie or a true construct of the mind of an AI from a future never predicted? What is, even, a planet? A realm? A glimmer in a madman's brain or the spark to ignite a galaxy? I probably just decided to type random words for a couple of minutes just to confuse the fuck out of anyone reading, would be my guess.

IGCD has been found dead, he was Town Vanilla, Town Bodyguard

A town vanillas greatest honor is to be night killed. It shows that the mafia have made an error or viewed you as such an overwhelming threat that they aimed for your head while towns power core lived to tell the tale and spell their doom. In this game you get two chances to toss aside your life for the good of all. Truly, there can be no greater honor awaiting a doomed soul than to know that in their last moments they helped to assure a brighter future for the town. Or town screws it up anyway. Either way, I do so love playing town vanilla.

Every night you are compelled to choose one person to save. If they are meant to die by normal means you will instead take the killing blow for them. You cannot target a player who has Aegis of the Host on them due to being King the previous day. You win with Town

You may not paraphrase or claim your flavor, only your role.

The Living

1. Sultan
2. Scare The Furry
3. Lopen
4. changmas
5. htaeD
6.Sbell
7.Kirby321
8.Mzero
9.Red

The Dead

Cresent - ED1 - Town Bus Driver
Ben - KN1 - Town Vanilla
Ulti - KN1 - Town Watcher
Tidus - ED2 - Town Cop
Sheep - KN2 - Town Vanilla
Plum - ED3 - Mafia Puppet Who Became Godfather Night One
Han - ED4 - Mafia Puppet Who Became Godfather Night One, rolecopped n2, and roleblockered n3
IGCD - KN4 - Town Bodyguard

With 9 Alive it takes 5 to King Someone. Sultan may not be King. You have until 7pm ET Sunday to decide who is King, and then the King has 24 hours after that to Execute.

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Oh wow
Nice work IGCD
And here I was doubting your role for even a second.

On the other hand.. the fact that Han also became godfather is slightly upsetting
Still feel pretty good about Sbell though

Immediate thoughts are also that I cant see Sultan as scum, and Lopen neither.
Not sure what to make of Scare going all in on defending Han, but he had decent reasons that made me second guess myself too.

Could be as easy as Red and Mzero now, but I feel there is always a snag somewhere.

Oh wait I forgot about Kirby...
But for him to be scum, pretty sure Lopen would also need to be scum and I cant see that happening

changmas posted...

what if the entire scum team bought godfather night 1

/s

hmmmmmm

SBell got some answering to do.

right after he becomes king

##King: SBell

Thats.. a very unusual way to vote someone King

I roleblocked Scare.. I assumed that if he was one of the 2 left it probably wouldn't have worked but I also thought maybe scum would think i wouldn't try him .

Anyways it feels awesome to have gotten the kill yesterday right and also pegging Han as scum day 1!.

Anyways I was starting to get bad feelings about Mzero. Yesterday but then he came in with great content.

I still think Red is independent.

That being said scum is

2 of these 3.
Scare
Mzero
Death.

I doubt he is scum but SBell is not 100% cleared any more dude too 2 Godfathers flipping now

Sbell is fine. The mass godfather means scare is probably more fine.

It probably is just Lopen and probably mzero or whatever.

You werent roleblocked?
Interesting

changmas posted...

hmmmmmm

SBell got some answering to do.

right after he becomes king

##King: SBell

lol, I saw that godfather and was like, well, there goes that 100%... guess I'm at like 97% now.

movie night with kids, be back a bit later.

How anyone can call anyone (besides maybe Kirby) independent right now is beyond me

Sbell doesn't king murder scum in that position if hes scum.

Mzero logicking Lopen into being town does make me confused about what he could be

Hey red, Scare
lets plan a sametime claim!

Scum had me pegged as vanilla day 1 death, definitely not independent hammerer.

Btw that was really, really antitown and yet people still wanted to king han.

(I cant same time claim i have work tonight)

htaeD posted...

How anyone can call anyone (besides maybe Kirby) independent right now is beyond me

Hammerer seems like a good way to gain powers as independent. Plus why wouldn't an indy Kirby just let Lopen burn?

Hammerer can also be a scumrole though

Leafeon13N posted...

Btw that was really, really antitown and yet people still wanted to king han.

I was pretty weirded out by it, but I admit I did forget it happened..
Probably because it happened to you

Also I guess I will wait for tomorrow then anyway

htaeD posted...

Hammerer can also be a scumrole though

Nope. Scum already slipped multiple times by suggesting i hammered intentionally on day 1.

We know scum would be powerless then.

And if scum got points for it, any scum could do it.

Hammering could be a good point provider for scum..

But red since you're hear did my roleblock prevent you from gaining something from your hammer?

Screw hammerer who cares

Red is scum because he argued fiercely with me that Roleblocker + King + Bus was enough protection then didn't question Bodyguard or backup claim.

I stand by Red being the best lynch today

Uhhh, no.

A twist?

I will vote anyone King who has Red in their top set

Lopen posted...

didn't question Bodyguard or backup claim.

Wasn't backup hans dumb claim?

He never left my scumpile.

And IGCD was just town. Like, bright neon sign with town plastered on it.

Lopen posted...

I will vote anyone King who has Red in their top set

Thats me and probably almost everyone else too..

Leafeon13N posted...

Wasn't backup hans dumb claim?

He never left my scumpile.

Didn't push for his lynch

Didn't call his claim bs

Empty words

Lopen posted...

Didn't push for his lynch

Didn't call his claim bs

Empty words

I've wanted you dead just as much as him since d2.

You pushed for me more than him despite his claim making zero sense

Very easy for you to "reconsider" once I'm dead

Suspects are meaningless if you don't pursue justice

Hmm wonder if IGCD protected the right person or died outright?

Red still thinks lopen is scum? Anyone else?

I'm a little suspicious of Scare now. I have a sneaking suspicion that Han's misplay completely threw the scum team off-balance and then they were trying to damage control. Turns out Sultan went down the WIFOM rabbit hole deep enough to call out Han's gambit.

It's also very hypocritical of Scare to guilt-trip Sultan for killing the claimed power role because their actions were so scummy that the claim seemed fake. Scare, for some reason, really wanted to keep Han alive. His shift in tone when trying to convince Sultan just felt completely out of character to me, like... very aggressive all of a sudden.

Speaking of Sultan, I don't see a situation where Sultan is scum and chooses to kill Han. I was starting to believe Han was town, and there was a vocal crowd saying to kill Lopen, but killing Han in the end was the right call. Assuming Lopen is town, it would've been far better to kill him off if Sultan was scum. Lopen was, in every way but one, the right lynch. Fortunately, Sultan executed Han, and that has convinced me he is town (WIFOM shenanigans notwithstanding). Roleblocker is... very weird, especially with Bodyguard, Bus Driver, and Bulletproof, but so far this setup is shaping up to be pure chaos.

Speaking of roleblocking, Han getting roleblocked from using his rolecop is huge. I was wondering why Han seemed off on Day 3, and being denied vital information like that must've sucked. Who knows how many points that was worth.

Lopen posted...

You pushed for me more than him despite his claim making zero sense

Very easy for you to "reconsider" once I'm dead

Suspects are meaningless if you don't pursue justice

Your claim was awful. Your play has been nothing but antitown.

Hell your perspective were you town should be hey that red guy chose me as king over known scum han.

But it isn't.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Hmm wonder if IGCD protected the right person or died outright?

Scum usually never shoots BGs directly

Lopen posted...

Screw hammerer who cares

Red is scum because he argued fiercely with me that Roleblocker + King + Bus was enough protection then didn't question Bodyguard or backup claim.

I stand by Red being the best lynch today

Shush, scum. You're not leading a mislynch today. We're not gonna forget your bogus Bulletproof claim from D4.

You chose me as king over no lynch, not over Han

Kirby321 posted...

Shush, scum. You're not leading a mislynch today. We're not gonna forget your bogus Bulletproof claim from D4.

And you are

You are likely indie and I doubt town getting too far ahead is in your best interest

I won't lynch you today but I sure as hell won't trust you

Death is my most suspicious tbh.

I know Han was pushing him for at least a day or two now, but it was a pretty safe bus. And does he really make a full list of reads with 0 scum players in his 4 scum player slots?

alternatively there's scum night 1 godfather SBell but if that's the case we're just fucked ! so i'd rather not consider that

but scare isnt far behind death on my list

Lopen posted...

And you are

You are likely indie and I doubt town getting too far ahead is in your best interest

I won't lynch you today but I sure as hell won't trust you

Han also was obsessed with the possibility of me being independent. Frankly, I'm town, and it is very much in my interest for town to be ahead.

You're not making it out alive today.

Sbell is not scum. His play dictates him to be town. Godfather ploy or not, hes town.

Red repeatedly saying sbell is town as though he needs to convince anyone is another scumtell

Fake content

##King:Chang

Im thinking im liking a king chang today

Lopen posted...

Red repeatedly saying sbell is town as though he needs to convince anyone is another scumtell

Fake content

Okay Lopen, sure.

Red making sure people stay sane and dont think about doing stupid things later is basically peak red.

Who is going to do it? Chang? Save it for when he's king.

okay wait a second actually. i think King SBell today may actually be incorrect.

With bodyguard dead, sultan will surely be the target tonight. Which means that whichever non-Sultan player we want to live longest (SBell) should actually be elected King tomorrow, not today.

that does give mafia the option to kill sbell tonight, but at the risk of allowing 2 more roleblocks from sultan. which i don't see happening.

Ps Kirby did the same thing going into depth about how Sultan is town. Sultan is obviously town. It doesn't require a two paragraph dissertation.

These are observations of self-preservation not observations to try and solve the game