Board 8 > Discussing Mafia Mafia Topic 9: Status Quo

(+) Yeah! (+)

I won't be around this evening so the game gets a slightly longer day phase.

And all of you can enjoy it because NO ONE DIED.

THE LIVING

1. Sultan
2. Scare The Furry
3. Lopen
4. changmas
5. htaeD
6. Han
7. IGCD
8.Sbell
9.Kirby321
10.Mzero
11.Red

The Dead:

Cresent - ED1 - Town Bus Driver
Ben - KN1 - Town Vanilla
Ulti - KN1 - Town Watcher
Tidus - ED2 - Town Cop
Sheep - KN2 - Town Vanilla
Plum - ED3 - Mafia Puppet Who Became Godfather Night One

With 11 alive it takes 6 to crown a King. Sbell may not be made King today. You have until 7pm ET tomorrow to crown a king and 24 hours after that for the rest of the day.

Uhhhh alright then

Chang?

Potential meta: scum spent an action on plum n1, did not spend anything n2. Reason to believe they possibly received less points.

Also nice to have Sbell fully townconfirmed I guess

Maybe plum bought a permanent godfather status

Also for chang to be scum they'd need points for godfather and extra kill n1.

And still taking this into account, would likely have almost certainly earned significantly less points n2.

htaeD posted...

Maybe plum bought a permanent godfather status

I think this is implied by todays post.

But also consider godfather status would be viewed as near worthless once the cop died.

True. But I am assuming scum could buy more than one action n1

htaeD posted...

True. But I am assuming scum could buy more than one action n1

I wouldn't doubt it. Spending godfather on plum feels tertiary to other actions.

This is why I think they had less to spend on n2.

Other piece of info we know is they'd end up with enough points to buy a gladiate on n3.

This implies they either have a permanent list of things to buy, which is my guess, or they know the next nights shop ahead of time(this seems unlikely).

I suppose third option is things show up in the shop each day and stay til bought but again seems too complicated.

I dont really know how it would help to figure things out tho.

It does feel nice to finally get a scum

Would plum be ballsy enough to open the game asking to king his scumbuddy

Or amend that. Would plum be ballsy enough to open the game asking to king his scumbuddy if his team also got points for getting king votes.

We do not know what earns points
We do not know what actions cost
We do not know how many actions/roles are available at any given time.

We DO know that all of this talk is pointless
We DO know this has been the most vocal Red has been.

Would scum intentionally choose not to kill someone? What are the chances of this?

Obellisk posted...

We do not know what earns points
We do not know what actions cost
We do not know how many actions/roles are available at any given time.

We DO know that all of this talk is pointless
We DO know this has been the most vocal Red has been.

Blablahblah we dont actually know most of these things screw your head on tighter sbell.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Would scum intentionally choose not to kill someone? What are the chances of this?

Chances are low. With that said, I do not want to see anyone claiming.

Leafeon13N posted...

Blablahblah we dont actually know most of these things screw your head on tighter sbell.

My head is screwed on just right, thank you.

You know who was good at discussing things inconsequential? Plum.

I dont thimk he has had much suspicion but we can pretty safely add igcd to the 100% town pile.

Leafeon13N posted...

Would plum be ballsy enough to open the game asking to king his scumbuddy

Well thats another way of also asking 'hey remember when Plum voted Death day2?'

Obellisk posted...

Chances are low. With that said, I do not want to see anyone claiming.

Hmm okay.

I was thinking that chances are low of this as well.

Leafeon13N posted...

Would plum be ballsy enough to open the game asking to king his scumbuddy

He was balsy enough to soft claimed power 63 posts into the game.

Anyway all that matters to me right now is that Plum voted Han as King over Lopen.

.....

If only that proved as much as a regular lynch could.

Obellisk posted...

You know who was good at discussing things inconsequential? Plum.

Thats great. I'm not plum. I like reasonably logical theories.

That i object to you finding them pointless.

They are also fun with a mystery game being played behind us and i want my guesses on the board for postgame. So get off of my fun.

Also there is a decent shot you dont live to tomorrow so dont screw up your time sbell.

Sad tag

htaeD posted...

Anyway all that matters to me right now is that Plum voted Han as King over Lopen.

.....

If only that proved as much as a regular lynch could.

I mean, they could both be scum still. But the needle has moved slightly towards town for lopen for me.

I mean if someone on towns side blocked someone else (to explain the lack of a NK), I would at least be interested in their target
If it was a more direct protective role, than no I dont want to hear the claim..

Either way I dont think scum nokills here

Leafeon13N posted...

Thats great. I'm not plum. I like reasonably logical theories.

That i object to you finding them pointless.

They are also fun with a mystery game being played behind us and i want my guesses on the board for postgame. So get off of my fun.

Also there is a decent shot you dont live to tomorrow so dont screw up your time sbell.

oh painting you in a poor light is an excellent way to spend this day.

1 scum goes down and all of the sudden red is a model player trying to save the game with his logical theories on the scum shop?

ok pal.

Scum never no kills.

(Unless very specific endgame scenarios)

Obellisk posted...

1 scum goes down and all of the sudden red is a model player trying to save the game with his logical theories on the scum shop?

Almost like I always get more active when a scum goes down because we are no longer blind when reading.

htaeD posted...

I mean if someone on towns side blocked someone else (to explain the lack of a NK), I would at least be interested in their target
If it was a more direct protective role, than no I dont want to hear the claim..

Either way I dont think scum nokills here

I'd like the day to progress a bit before anyone comes running in with an action.

Leafeon13N posted...

Scum never no kills.

(Unless very specific endgame scenarios)

so illogical of you. Why not theorize that a no kill earns them points to spend the next night?

I do have to say it that yeah, Red suddenly showing more interest is what he would do as a good scum partner.

Obellisk posted...

I'd like the day to progress a bit before anyone comes running in with an action.

Inb4 another 'within 4 hours' claim

htaeD posted...

I do have to say it that yeah, Red suddenly showing more interest is what he would do as a good scum partner.

Death this is dumb.

I shove as scum. I'd have felt pressure to shove yesterday and roll town.

Not my scum game in the slightest.

Red I don't think a rotating shop or a shop as you go is likely

Chris was up front about everything this game, he wouldn't make scum situations rng related

Possible Kings day 4:
Igcd
Chang
death
Sultan

never kings (where the 3 remaining scum will be found):
Han
red
Scare
mzero
lopen

Also I'm not concerned with Red suddenly waking up. He has a flip to work with and days of content now, I'd be more suspect if he didn't wake up today

Bring us a head, red

Fastbreak posted...

Red I don't think a rotating shop or a shop as you go is likely

Chris was up front about everything this game, he wouldn't make scum situations rng related

Yeah i know, i think I said as much. I expected a static shop.

Honestly the only thing I thought of when seeing plum as godfather was

1. What scumteam godfathers plum
2. Sbell as godfather even dumber theory than it was before-- though I think only plum himself was seriously humoring that.

The whole point stuff, I dunno, I guess I'm just not interested enough in it to think about what gets points. My role isn't scum hammer though, so understandable why I would care less.

I started to reread day 1 to try and get hints but I then came to the conclusion that there were enough factors in "what scumteam godfathers plum" that it wasn't a good use of energy. Maybe someone else has some theories though. Like I do think looking into who suspected plum day 1 might get you a town lean on those people. Though if memory serves plum didn't really have any heat until day 2.

Other possibility is red is scum that knows point theory is a red herring and is sending us that way for a reason.

Obellisk posted...

Possible Kings day 4:
Igcd
Chang
death
Sultan

never kings (where the 3 remaining scum will be found):
Han
red
Scare
mzero
lopen

Pump the breaks on this for a minute

Fastbreak posted...

Pump the breaks on this for a minute

I will listen to all arguments on kinging.

Lopen posted...

Honestly the only thing I thought of when seeing plum as godfather was

1. What scumteam godfathers plum
2. Sbell as godfather even dumber theory than it was before-- though I think only plum himself was seriously humoring that.

The whole point stuff, I dunno, I guess I'm just not interested enough in it to think about what gets points. My role isn't scum hammer though, so understandable why I would care less.

I started to reread day 1 to try and get hints but I then came to the conclusion that there were enough factors in "what scumteam godfathers plum" that it wasn't a good use of energy. Maybe someone else has some theories though. Like I do think looking into who suspected plum day 1 might get you a town lean on those people. Though if memory serves plum didn't really have any heat until day 2.

Other possibility is red is scum that knows point theory is a red herring and is sending us that way for a reason.

I haven't read enough yet but this happens for a pretty basic couple of reasons.

You see godfather as buyable so you assume cop.
You theorize who is power and who they suspect enough to scan.

Lopen posted...

Other possibility is red is scum that knows point theory is a red herring and is sending us that way for a reason.

just as plum did with me having a chance st being godfather

Sbell i really just want to smack you with a newspaper.

Leafeon13N posted...

Sbell i really just want to smack you with a newspaper.

because I won't buy into your garbage? yeah, frustrating for you I'm sure.

Leafeon13N posted...

Death this is dumb.

I shove as scum. I'd have felt pressure to shove yesterday and roll town.

Not my scum game in the slightest.

shove?

Why don't you continue to not read 8 topics of game and talk about the scum shop.