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EzeDoesIt
01/20/22 7:37:54 AM
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https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1483899815763185667

How in the hell could stand your ground laws possibly apply here?

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gunplagirl
01/20/22 7:40:07 AM
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The teen was being forcefully held down by multiple grown adults, but it was Kansas and he was black so of course self defense laws apply because the Bible belt is a blight upon humanity.

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Esrac
01/20/22 9:38:52 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1483899815763185667

How in the hell could stand your ground laws possibly apply here?

It would probably apply if he had attacked them and continued to struggle and try to attack them while they restrained him.

Which isn't really unbelievable when reports state that police were called to the home because he was behaving "erratically and aggressively", he had assaulted the responding officers, and he assaulted the JIAC officers after they gave him a verbal direction to return to a holding room after he tried to pull a computer monitor through a window.

If that is the case, then the DA would likely conclude they were defending themselves from a violent aggressor.
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IShall_Run_Amok
01/20/22 9:44:46 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
How in the hell could stand your ground laws possibly apply here?

gunplagirl posted...
it was Kansas and he was black


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Were_Wyrm
01/20/22 9:50:52 AM
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Yeah plenty of people are pissed, he was basically hogtied and left on his stomach until he suffocated.

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Kloe_Rinz
01/20/22 10:01:08 AM
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Bible Belt
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Vicious_Dios
01/20/22 10:16:13 AM
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They should release any footage of this incident before we pass any sort of sitting-justice.

But of course, we always have to have the usual subjects going off at multiple tangents with their assumptions when they weren't even fucking there to begin with.

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DipDipDiver
01/20/22 10:22:25 AM
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I don't think you need to have been there to know that pinning someone down until they suffocate is wrong
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Horrorbooksguy
01/20/22 10:23:27 AM
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Hope the family of the kid finds those involved.
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s0nicfan
01/20/22 10:26:44 AM
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DipDipDiver posted...
I don't think you need to have been there to know that pinning someone down until they suffocate is wrong

FYI that's not what happened, which kind of proves his point.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/prosecutor-charges-black-kansas-teens-custody-death-82330494
Bennett said the intake specialist later told investigators that he informed Lofton he would be released to his guardian. The teen walked out of the cell. A security officer arrived and tried to help get Lofton back into the holding room after Lofton tried to grab a computer monitor from the intake counter. Lofton hit the intake specialist, knocking his glasses to the ground, according to Bennett's report.

The two staff members then struggled with Lofton before more staff members arrived. Staff then shackled Lofton's ankles, put him on his stomach on the floor, then struggled with him some more before handcuffing him, according to Bennett. Around that time, staff said Lofton began to snore, Bennett's report says.

A few minutes later, staff members realized Lofton had no pulse. They began chest compressions and called emergency personnel, just before 5:15 a.m., the report said.

A December autopsy report ruled the death a homicide and contradicted an earlier, preliminary finding that the teenager had not suffered apparent life-threatening injuries. The autopsy said that the teens heart and breathing stopped after he was handcuffed while lying on his stomach.

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DipDipDiver
01/20/22 10:29:24 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
FYI that's not what happened, which kind of proves his point.
Fair enough. I still don't think you need to have been there in order to have an opinion on what happened
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s0nicfan
01/20/22 10:30:06 AM
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DipDipDiver posted...
Fair enough. I still don't think you need to have been there in order to have an opinion on what happened

I agree, but you have to at least know what happened before having an opinion on it, or at least a valid one.

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SauI_Goodman
01/20/22 10:32:08 AM
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Sounds about right.

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Esrac
01/20/22 10:44:18 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
I agree, but you have to at least know what happened before having an opinion on it, or at least a valid one.

Most people online don't read past a headline or Twitter post.
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