Poll of the Day > Why didn't Dr. Strange just yeet Thanos into the mirror dimension?

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by the time Strange learned about him he already had enough stones to start manipulating reality

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Mead posted...

by the time Strange learned about him he already had enough stones to start manipulating reality

Ya know? If they stuck to certain details from the comics, including rules behind the gauntlet and stones, all Strange would have had to do is find a suitable alternate universe and slip the big boy Thanos inside it like some space and time altering parent giving their child a timeout in the corner.

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What did he say on the ship in Infinity War.. he has to know where he is for his magic to work or something?

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Because by the time Strange even knew he was a threat he already had the Power, Space, and Reality gems. That'd probably be more than enough to escape any prison dimension.

The real question is why Thanos was stupid enough to "play fair" right to the very end while gathering the stones, when he could have just insta-murdered pretty much everyone he met and took the stones off their corpses.
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Entity13 posted...

Ya know? If they stuck to certain details from the comics, including rules behind the gauntlet and stones, all Strange would have had to do is find a suitable alternate universe and slip the big boy Thanos inside it like some space and time altering parent giving their child a timeout in the corner.

Yeah, but that was a later retcon, and a stupid one.

In the original story where he puts the gauntlet together it's explicitly stated that the power of the gems spans all realities. So sending someone to a parallel universe wouldn't simply shut them off.

It shouldn't even work in the movies, considering the stones they pull out of alternate timelines in Endgame wouldn't work in the mainline universe if that was the case.
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Mead posted...

by the time Strange learned about him he already had enough stones to start manipulating reality

Then wouldn't it be better to fight him in the mirror dimension where they could both manipulate reality?
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Because by the time Strange even knew he was a threat he already had the Power, Space, and Reality gems. That'd probably be more than enough to escape any prison dimension.

Again: only if said pocket dimension is tied to the primary dimension that the stones originated within. If the stones of this reality ended up in another universe with its own continuity or so-on, then this one's stones won't work . . . if the movies kept to the source material.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The real question is why Thanos was stupid enough to "play fair" right to the very end while gathering the stones, when he could have just insta-murdered pretty much everyone he met and took the stones off their corpses.

Movie Thanos saw himself as the good guy, doing what is necessary to save the universe. He is not out to impress Death.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Yeah, but that was a later retcon, and a stupid one.

In the original story where he puts the gauntlet together it's explicitly stated that the power of the gems spans all realities. So sending someone to a parallel universe wouldn't simply shut them off.

It shouldn't even work in the movies, considering the stones they pull out of alternate timelines in Endgame wouldn't work in the mainline universe if that was the case.

Fair enough.

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GanonsSpirit posted...

Then wouldn't it be better to fight him in the mirror dimension where they could both manipulate reality?

who knows, reality is a mysterious thingy

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TVA would have reset the timeline then. Strange was aware of that. They won the fight with Thanos more then one time, but lost the "war" cause of the TVA

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Entity13 posted...

Again: only if said pocket dimension is tied to the primary dimension that the stones originated within.

Yeah, but again that only applies to the newer versions of the gems in the comics, not the original versions or, from what we've seen, the movie versions. The movies seem to blatantly contradict that they work that way.

Arguably the various stones in Loki that don't work could suggest that those rules apply, but if so it conflicts with film continuity, and there are alternate possible explanations anyway.



Entity13 posted...

Movie Thanos saw himself as the good guy, doing what is necessary to save the universe. He is not out to impress Death.

He's also very much an "ends justify the means" sort of guy, and was about to murder half the universe regardless.

Literally nothing about him implies he's the sort of person who would hesitate to murder a few more people "for the greater good". If anything, he should be more willing to do so than comic Thanos, who was much more egotistical and conceited, and mostly willing to spare heroes or fight them "on their own level" because he found it amusing, and all the better to more cruelty break them later.

A sadistic villain Thanos obviously enjoys humiliating and taunting heroes. Movie Thanos should be far more concerned with just completing his life's work, getting the distasteful job over with, and killing his victims as merciful as possible because he's not trying to be cruel. Kill the heroes quick and easy and take the stones, rather than playing cat and mouse with them to give them false hope before plunging them into despair.
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Isn't that what he's trying to do here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8W4Lm1nTWk&t=29s

29 second mark if you play in gfaqs

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Yeah, but again that only applies to the newer versions of the gems in the comics, not the original versions or, from what we've seen, the movie versions. The movies seem to blatantly contradict that they work that way.

Arguably the various stones in Loki that don't work could suggest that those rules apply, but if so it conflicts with film continuity, and there are alternate possible explanations anyway.

He's also very much an "ends justify the means" sort of guy, and was about to murder half the universe regardless.

Literally nothing about him implies he's the sort of person who would hesitate to murder a few more people "for the greater good". If anything, he should be more willing to do so than comic Thanos, who was much more egotistical and conceited, and mostly willing to spare heroes or fight them "on their own level" because he found it amusing, and all the better to more cruelty break them later.

A sadistic villain Thanos obviously enjoys humiliating and taunting heroes. Movie Thanos should be far more concerned with just completing his life's work, getting the distasteful job over with, and killing his victims as merciful as possible because he's not trying to be cruel. Kill the heroes quick and easy and take the stones, rather than playing cat and mouse with them to give them false hope before plunging them into despair.

They give an impression that he does have some enjoyment getting his hands dirty with the Hulk fight. I feel like, despite there being 47.3 movies to develop Thanos, they didnt' do a great job actually making his motivations or character traits... real. He was basically just a plot point.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Because by the time Strange even knew he was a threat he already had the Power, Space, and Reality gems. That'd probably be more than enough to escape any prison dimension.

The real question is why Thanos was stupid enough to "play fair" right to the very end while gathering the stones, when he could have just insta-murdered pretty much everyone he met and took the stones off their corpses.

it was sort of explained in one of the movies

he wanted to give people a fighting chance against him

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Why doesn't Antman just shrink Thanos and put him up his asshole

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Why doesn't Antman just shrink Thanos and put him up his asshole

Because he talked to MatPat and found out it wouldnt work
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Blightzkrieg posted...

Why doesn't Antman just shrink Thanos and put him up his asshole

you cant shrink someone once they have the reality and space stone, its a gravitational synergy

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He literally tried to do the Mirror Dimension thing, and Thanos "shattered" it, I assume with the Reality Stone.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

shatter

noice bruh

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Open here, I flung the shutter
When, with many a flirt and flutter...

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just use "thanos, i've come to bargain"
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GanonsSpirit posted...

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Ummm he tried that and Thanos shattered it

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What I don't understand is that Dr. Strange was able to see all the possible futures and choose the one that ended with Thanos loosing but he can't figure out the negative effects of making everyone forget who spiderman is.

It's like, he has the power to see possible futures, but just does something that shatters the timeline anyway. I guess he has to do that so we have a movie, but it's still stupid.

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wolfy42 posted...

What I don't understand is that Dr. Strange was able to see all the possible futures and choose the one that ended with Thanos loosing but he can't figure out the negative effects of making everyone forget who spiderman is.

It's like, he has the power to see possible futures, but just does something that shatters the timeline anyway. I guess he has to do that so we have a movie, but it's still stupid.

Well, he doesn't have the Time Stone anymore to look into possible futures, for one thing...

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