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Tmaster148
02/12/21 10:34:12 AM
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https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/12/22279707/twitter-project-veritas-suspension-privacy-violations

Twitter has permanently suspended the account of conservative activist group Project Veritas, after the organization released a video of a reporter questioning a Facebook executive outside their home, the New York Times reports. The account of Project Veritass founder, James OKeefe, was also temporarily locked.

In a statement given to the NYT, Twitter said the @Project_Veritas account was suspended for repeated violations of Twitters private information policy.

In a statement published by Policito, OKeefe said the offending video included footage of a reporter questioning Facebook vice president Guy Ronsen, but denied that Project Veritas had published his private information. The NYT notes that this questioning took place outside the executives home. OKeefe said the organization would not be taking down the offending coverage. It would be unconscionable for me to take down our reporting where it didnt violate anyones privacy rights, he told the NYT.

After temporarily locking his account, Twitter said OKeefe would need to delete a post that was in violation of its rules before he could tweet again. As of this writing, OKeefes account is active once again, with two tweets labelled as unavailable on its feed. IM BACK, reads its pinned post, accompanied by a video outlining the groups dispute with Twitter.

Prior to its suspension, Project Veritass Twitter account was prominent on the platform, and counted Donald Trumps adult sons as followers. But others have questioned its tactics and the accuracy of its reporting. One of its videos about allegations of voter fraud was called a domestic, coordinated elite disinformation campaign by researchers at Stanford University and the University of Washington, Politico notes. Other examples of its videos include one which claimed to show evidence of bias against then-President Trump at Google, as well as another that claimed to show bias against conservatives at Facebook.

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FrozenPie
02/12/21 10:34:54 AM
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slippery slope in action

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Jagr_68
02/12/21 10:35:01 AM
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Tyranthraxus
02/12/21 10:35:40 AM
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FrozenPie posted...
slippery slope in action

It's more baby steps that came 10 years too late.

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COVxy
02/12/21 10:37:26 AM
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Good.

Should have happened sooner. People creating and pushing fake news need to be silenced. We saw how well it has worked with removing Trump's voice.

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CableZL
02/12/21 10:38:09 AM
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scar the 1
02/12/21 10:39:43 AM
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COVxy posted...
Good.

Should have happened sooner. People creating and pushing fake news need to be silenced. We saw how well it has worked with removing Trump's voice.
Not sure I entirely agree. I would rather reframe it as "we don't need algorithms that indiscriminately magnify content that make people angry for profit".

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Machete
02/12/21 10:40:56 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Fucking good.

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JimmyFraska
02/12/21 10:42:54 AM
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People in this topic saying how happy they are but they can't even say why lmao
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COVxy
02/12/21 10:43:24 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Not sure I entirely agree. I would rather reframe it as "we don't need algorithms that indiscriminately magnify content that make people angry for profit".

We've had this discussion before, but in case I'm misremembering:

I think it's very likely that even if you removed all algorithmic influences in people's feeds, you would still have an amplification of fake news, and it would probably amplify more within particular networks of people.

I just don't think there's a realistic way to solve it without just removing harmful material.

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littlebro07
02/12/21 10:44:29 AM
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and now we get to see conservatives on Twitter bitch about censorship all day

...oh, they do that every day no matter what happens? Carry on

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Solar_Crimson
02/12/21 10:45:24 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
People in this topic saying how happy they are but they can't even say why lmao
But someone did:

COVxy posted...
People creating and pushing fake news need to be silenced. We saw how well it has worked with removing Trump's voice.

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Medussa
02/12/21 10:45:39 AM
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how those fuckers haven't been sued into oblivion while facing a mountain of criminal charges is baffling.

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JimmyFraska
02/12/21 10:47:14 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
But someone did:
He didn't say anything lmao. SHow me the fake news, I haven't seen it
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scar the 1
02/12/21 10:47:42 AM
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COVxy posted...
We've had this discussion before, but in case I'm misremembering:

I think it's very likely that even if you removed all algorithmic influences in people's feeds, you would still have an amplification of fake news, and it would probably amplify more within particular networks of people.

I just don't think there's a realistic way to solve it without just removing harmful material.
I actually don't think we have, you're probably confusing me with someone else.
I'm not convinced. I'm sure there would be some amplification, and the problem wouldn't just disappear, but I think the business model of social media is at the core of this issue.

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thronedfire2
02/12/21 10:49:35 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
He didn't say anything lmao. SHow me the fake news, I haven't seen it

try google

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COVxy
02/12/21 10:56:26 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
I actually don't think we have, you're probably confusing me with someone else.
I'm not convinced. I'm sure there would be some amplification, and the problem wouldn't just disappear, but I think the business model of social media is at the core of this issue.

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I think removing those influences will markedly reduce the problem, I just think what will be left will still be troublesome.

As long as you assume that the salience and novelty means greater adoption/share rate, and people who find similar things salient and novel are more likely to be connected to each other, you will get amplification.

I suppose the primary disagreement here is simply how bad the remaining amplification would be, and that's really just an empirical question.


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JimmyFraska
02/12/21 11:04:08 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
try google
So you don't know what the fake news is then. Do you even know why you support the things you do? Lmao
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Medussa
02/12/21 11:05:07 AM
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their entire gimmick is fabricating evidence. you're not fooling anyone.

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Doom_Art
02/12/21 11:06:17 AM
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FrozenPie posted...
slippery slope in action
a slippery slope to somewhere super fucking cool apparently

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JimmyFraska
02/12/21 11:11:35 AM
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Conflict posted...
This dude said "Show me the fake news, I haven't seen it"

lmao
bro bring out the news. All I see are people going "Yay!" without actually talking about the substance of why they were bad and what they did
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Medussa
02/12/21 11:20:19 AM
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you aren't fooling anyone either.

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CADE FOSTER
02/12/21 11:22:21 AM
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They literally fajed evidence against planned parenthood should have went to jail for that
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AzurexNightmare
02/12/21 11:22:51 AM
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You guys argue about some really boring crap.

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Disrespector
02/12/21 11:25:54 AM
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The good news keeps coming after Biden's inauguration

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monkmith
02/12/21 11:27:35 AM
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FrozenPie posted...
fascism is cool?
screaming fascism doesn't work so well for your side when you're actively supporting the guy who literally tried to overthrow the government with an angry mob...

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Doom_Art
02/12/21 11:27:54 AM
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FrozenPie posted...
fascism is cool?
who said that?

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JimmyFraska
02/12/21 11:38:45 AM
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Conflict posted...
They're infamous for producing deceptively edited and misleading videos and trying to entrap members of the organizations they target. In one incident they tried tricking the Washington Post into posting a fabricated article about Roy Moore's sexual conduct allegations and failed.

This is really all stuff you can read on their Wikipedia article (which by the way is locked so don't give me that "anyone can edit it" shit)
Thank you for a legitimate response.

As someone who is mostly conservative, and follows rumors and clickbait, I found most Veritas content boring and without substance. So, eh, I don't give a shit.
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davyheinz
02/12/21 11:38:47 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
who said that?
That guy is probably a fascist who didnt mean to put a question mark.

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RenescoStCewl
02/12/21 11:44:21 AM
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Conservative activist group lol. That is way to generous. More like far right fake news factory.

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Extreme_light
02/12/21 11:44:43 AM
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FrozenPie posted...
slippery slope in action

Next, they're gonna come for YOU, and then dogs will be getting married!

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scar the 1
02/12/21 11:44:59 AM
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COVxy posted...
I suppose the primary disagreement here is simply how bad the remaining amplification would be, and that's really just an empirical question.
Yup, I'll gladly concede that the jury is out on that one.

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RebelElite791
02/12/21 11:47:08 AM
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davyheinz posted...
That guy is probably a fascist who didnt mean to put a question mark.
Well, its Caution so...

JimmyFraska posted...
Thank you for a legitimate response.

As someone who is mostly conservative, and follows rumors and clickbait, I found most Veritas content boring and without substance. So, eh, I don't give a shit.
Well glad to see youve embraced being a rightwing conspiracy theorist and have dropped the both sides are equally bad! Have you heard this conspiracy tho? Schtick

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I4NRulez
02/12/21 11:47:17 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
As someone who is mostly conservative, and follows rumors and clickbait, I found most Veritas content boring and without substance. So, eh, I don't give a s***.

oh geez. i mean at least you can admit it

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vigorm0rtis
02/12/21 11:49:40 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
So you don't know what the fake news is then. Do you even know why you support the things you do? Lmao

Created videos manipulated to spread fake information about:

Planned parenthood
ACORN
Medicaid
NPR
Primary voting
Open Society Network
Teacher's Unions

etc.

Also tried to bust WAPO's chops and got slapped down like the punk bitch O'Keefe is.

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Musourenka
02/12/21 11:50:35 AM
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Excellent news!

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JimmyFraska
02/12/21 11:53:59 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Well glad to see youve embraced being a rightwing conspiracy theorist and have dropped the both sides are equally bad! Have you heard this conspiracy tho? Schtick
Lmao, there was another guy who kept calling me an "enlightened centrist" despite me never making that claim. I'm happy to say "Both sides are bad" if it makes you happy. I mean that's mostly true anyway.

If I was your average "right wing conspiracy theorist", I'd be all about Q. But instead I've never liked Q and love making fun of his followers. So idk, I guess having an opinion puts me back in the "both sides are bad" camp
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AzurexNightmare
02/12/21 12:11:50 PM
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Both sides are bad.

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Machete
02/12/21 12:17:57 PM
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FrozenPie posted...
slippery slope in action



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Sad_Face
02/12/21 12:20:32 PM
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Their work on the Election fraud was used by the FBI to arrest one of the vote harvesters in their footage.

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Northlane
02/12/21 12:22:27 PM
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I was in a guild called Veritas back in my WoW days in the 2000s

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SPE
02/12/21 12:22:39 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Well, its Caution so...

Well glad to see youve embraced being a rightwing conspiracy theorist and have dropped the both sides are equally bad! Have you heard this conspiracy tho? Schtick

@RebelElite791 frozen pie is caution!?


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InhumaneRaider
02/12/21 12:24:40 PM
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'Conservative Group' is generous. These fools are straight up propaganda.

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RebelElite791
02/12/21 12:40:39 PM
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SPE posted...
@RebelElite791 frozen pie is caution!?
Yeah

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SPE
02/12/21 1:10:08 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Yeah

this makes this worse. I thought they were to uniquely terrible posters in their own right, but now it compounds

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RustyFerret
02/12/21 1:17:04 PM
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PBS wouldn't have fired an employee over fake news >_>

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