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Antifar
10/30/20 8:01:30 PM
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https://manualredeye.com/90096/news/local/police-training-hitler-presentation/
A training slideshow used by the Kentucky State Police (KSP) the second largest police force in the state urges cadets to be ruthless killer[s] and quotes Adolf Hitler advocating violence.

The slideshow was included in KSP documents obtained via an open records request by local attorney David Ward of Adams Landenwich Walton during the discovery phase of a lawsuit. Ward requested KSP materials used to train a detective who shot and killed a man in Harlan County, and Ward shared the presentation with Manual RedEye.

One slide, titled Violence of Action, in addition to imploring officers to be ruthless killer[s], instructs troopers to have a mindset void of emotion and to meet violence with greater violence.

A line from Adolf Hitlers fascist and anti-Semitic manifesto, Mein Kampf, is featured in the slide: the very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.

The presentation also links to a Hitler page on Goodreads, a database of quotes and books.

Two other slides quoting Hitler bring his total to three, making him the most quoted person in the presentation.

In a statement emailed to RedEye reporters, KSP spokesperson Lieutenant Joshua Lawson wrote, The quotes are used for their content and relevance to the topic addressed in the presentation. The presentation touches on several aspects of service, selflessness, and moral guidance. All of these topics go to the fundamentals of law enforcement such as treating everyone equally, service to the public, and being guided by the law.

In a separate email, Lawson also stated that the presentation seems to be seven years old and appears to have been made by an instructor at the academy. It is not clear how long the presentation was used, or if it is still used. (Editors note: According to a statement received after publication from Morgan Hall, the Communications Director for the Kentucky Justice and Public Safety Cabinet, the presentation was not used after 2013.)

Although the presentation also features quotes from a variety of other sources including Sun Tzu and Albert Einstein, Dr. Jack Glaser a professor at the University of California Berkeley who studies police practices found the Hitler quotes inexcusable.

Hitler is, justifiably, the archetype of a bad person with the worst, inhumane morals. Its controversial enough to quote him when trying to illustrate a point about genocidal despots. Quoting him in the manner that these trainings do prescriptively is unfathomable, Glaser wrote in an email to RedEye reporters.

The training materials are coming to light during a national discussion about systemic racism and the role of police in communities, a debate centered on Kentucky after Louisville Metro Police Department officers shot Breonna Taylor in March.

Since 2018, KSP troopers have committed at least 16 fatal shootings according to a Washington Post database of police shootings, the most of any police force in the state. Troopers were not wearing body cameras during any of the shootings.

During the same timeframe, the Louisville Metro Police Department, the largest police force in the state, killed 15 people, including Taylor.

Greg Belzley, a Louisville area criminal rights and police misconduct lawyer, said he was shocked and dismayed by the presentation.

This basically says, when you come into work, you need to have the mindset of getting ready to go out there and kick some ass, Belzley said.

Belzley described the presentation as something out of Borat, referencing the satirical anti-Semitic reporter portrayed by Sacha Baron Cohen.

Glaser worries that the presentation is a recipe for excessive force.

The tenor and substance of this training is very much at odds with contemporary police efforts to improve community relations and minimize excessive use of force, Glaser stated.

One slide titled The Thin Gray Line uses a quote from Robert E. Lee and two photos of seemingly all-white groups of KSP officers in their traditional gray uniforms.

Its concerning that the Thin Gray Line slide has a quote from Robert E. Lee, given that Lee was the Confederate commander and Confederate uniforms were famously gray, Glaser said.

A closing slide of the Powerpoint simply states ber Alles in large text. The phrase, which was previously part of the German national anthem, translates to above all or above everything else, commonly used to signify national superiority. Modern Germans heavily associate the phrase with the Nazis.


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Turbam
10/30/20 8:03:13 PM
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Fine people

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BobLoblaw_
10/30/20 8:04:08 PM
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Well if this doesnt prove cops want to be murderers and Nazis what the fuck else does?

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Zeus
10/30/20 8:04:23 PM
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I like that Hitler somehow takes second-billing there. That's some massive virtue-signalling. In no world is Robert E Lee worse than fucking Hitler.

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Garioshi
10/30/20 8:04:51 PM
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We live in a society

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uwnim
10/30/20 8:06:11 PM
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So they are literally training them to be shitty police. <_< Great job Kentucky

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TheCodeisBosco
10/30/20 8:07:07 PM
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But remember, Mitch McConnell will "Keep Kentucky Great" if he wins.

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Smashingpmkns
10/30/20 8:07:07 PM
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Imagine typing that into a PowerPoint, going over the PowerPoint, thinking "ahh yeah this is perfect", then actually presenting that PowerPoint.
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Antifar
10/30/20 8:07:53 PM
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Zeus posted...
I like that Hitler somehow takes second-billing there. That's some massive virtue-signalling. In no world is Robert E Lee worse than fucking Hitler.

I figured this order would allow the title to escalate, for effect. Take the finger off the trigger, dude.
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RchHomieQuanChi
10/30/20 8:11:57 PM
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A couple of bad apples tho

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darkprince45
10/30/20 8:15:23 PM
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BobLoblaw_ posted...
Well if this doesnt prove cops want to be murderers and Nazis what the fuck else does?
yes, a presentation made by an instructor 8 years ago, that no longer works there. Proves all cops are murderers and nazis is everywhere

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Comfy_Pillow
10/30/20 8:26:43 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
yes, a presentation made by an instructor 8 years ago, that no longer works there. Proves all cops are murderers and nazis is everywhere

Why do you think it's coming to light now and no cop there ever made a fuss about it?
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DarkChozoGhost
10/30/20 8:27:59 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
yes, a presentation made by an instructor 8 years ago, that no longer works there. Proves all cops are murderers and nazis is everywhere
Proves that everyone that's looked over this presentation and decided to keep it are pieces of shit.

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Poop2
10/30/20 8:29:40 PM
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lol that coward blocked me

fucking pathetic
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BobLoblaw_
10/30/20 8:31:57 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
yes, a presentation made by an instructor 8 years ago, that no longer works there. Proves all cops are murderers and nazis is everywhere
Do you ever stop crying?How you cant see this is indicative of a larger problem of racism within the police force, which has been 100% proven by the way, is pure stupidity.

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darkprince45
10/30/20 8:32:11 PM
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Comfy_Pillow posted...
Why do you think it's coming to light now and no cop there ever made a fuss about it?
If you dont know hitler quotes you wouldnt know. Its two random quotes sprinkled at the bottom of two slides without a -hitler.

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Middle hope
10/30/20 8:32:37 PM
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Zeus posted...
I like that Hitler somehow takes second-billing there. That's some massive virtue-signalling. In no world is Robert E Lee worse than fucking Hitler.
But he had slaves and an offensive flag

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darkprince45
10/30/20 8:32:44 PM
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BobLoblaw_ posted...
Do you ever stop crying?How you cant see this is indicative of a larger problem of racism within the police force, which has been 100% proven by the way, is pure stupidity.
I didnt cry anything about anything. I said your post was stupid, which it is

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nfearurspecimn
10/30/20 8:36:55 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqCdSPhEZOg

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DarkChozoGhost
10/30/20 8:43:58 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
If you dont know hitler quotes you wouldnt know. Its two random quotes sprinkled at the bottom of two slides without a -hitler.
Even if you don't know there were Hitler quotes, it's horrendous that they appear there.

Antifar posted...
One slide, titled Violence of Action, in addition to imploring officers to be ruthless killer[s], instructs troopers to have a mindset void of emotion and to meet violence with greater violence.

A line from Adolf Hitlers fascist and anti-Semitic manifesto, Mein Kampf, is featured in the slide: the very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.
The quotes don't belong in a police training video. Defending those quotes, even if they weren't inspired by/taken from Htiler, is disgusting.

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FlameTurtle
10/30/20 8:44:53 PM
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Please tell me that DP isn't seriously going up to bat for this.

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KnightofShikari
10/30/20 8:47:12 PM
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FlameTurtle posted...
Please tell me that DP isn't seriously going up to bat for this.
it's something the cops did so of course he would go to bat for them, no matter how terrible it is

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nothanks1
10/30/20 8:49:28 PM
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so it wasn't used after 2013
but the article is citing the use of uber alles as a modern day thing
oh it's some college magazine
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darkprince45
10/30/20 8:51:33 PM
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Its a high school magazine. Theres no actual proof ever it was ever used either. The guy that made it isnt even a cop

to clarify I never even defended. But you know how people are on here against cops. Just that its stupid to say cops are nazis and murderers over this. I would never know thats a hitler quote lol

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Poop2
10/30/20 8:55:16 PM
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FlameTurtle posted...
Please tell me that DP isn't seriously going up to bat for this.
he's a cop troll
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Choco
10/30/20 8:58:59 PM
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americans are no longer allowed to make bad nazi jokes about germany

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ultimate reaver
10/30/20 9:03:37 PM
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BobLoblaw_ posted...
Do you ever stop crying?How you cant see this is indicative of a larger problem of racism within the police force, which has been 100% proven by the way, is pure stupidity.

you're assuming he thinks that such a thing would be considered a problem

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Ruvan22
10/30/20 9:03:49 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Its a high school magazine. Theres no actual proof ever it was ever used either. The guy that made it isnt even a cop

to clarify I never even defended. But you know how people are on here against cops. Just that its stupid to say cops are nazis and murderers over this. I would never know thats a hitler quote lol
If it *had* been used, would you feel it was inappropriate? Especially saying you have to meet violence with greater violence and come prepared to be emotionless?
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FlameTurtle
10/30/20 9:04:58 PM
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"I would never know that's a hitler quote."

Well, I'm reassured.

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darkprince45
10/30/20 9:05:40 PM
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gotta add some more anti police extremists to the block list

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Poop2
10/30/20 9:06:58 PM
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when will the pigs realize they are supposed to serve us?

oh thats right, they serve the state and wealth.
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BobLoblaw_
10/30/20 9:14:59 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
I didnt cry anything about anything. I said your post was stupid, which it is
Jesus fucking Christ you cant even prove whats stupid about it even though I can fucking prove to you that white nationalism is pervasive within the police force in this nation

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BobLoblaw_
10/30/20 9:15:47 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
gotta add some more anti police extremists to the block list
Yes duck your head in the sand and run away from the truth

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KStateKing17
10/30/20 9:19:06 PM
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Conflict posted...
I can't believe you typed this out and didn't immediately think to yourself "wow, this is a moronic ass hill to die on and definitely not the real problem that should take center stage here"
The dude is like 50 and posts like this regularly. He doesn't give a shit.

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darkprince45
10/30/20 9:21:58 PM
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Oh new alt of course it is

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FlameTurtle
10/30/20 9:23:28 PM
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Normal people: "Police training shouldn't ever include Hitler quotes."
DP: "These anti-police extremists have gone too far"

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Southernfatman
10/30/20 9:25:59 PM
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You guys really need to stop feeding him and letting him derail these topics into just one big back and forth with him.

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Antifar
10/30/20 9:52:34 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Its a high school magazine. Theres no actual proof ever it was ever used either.

The government has said that it was
Morgan Hall, the Communications Director for the Kentucky Justice and Public Safety Cabinet, sent RedEye this statement: It is unacceptable that this material was ever included in the training of law enforcement. Our administration does not condone the use of this material. The material is not currently a part of any training materials and was removed in 2013.

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billcom6
10/30/20 9:54:11 PM
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back the blue!

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Looked gf
10/30/20 9:54:35 PM
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wackyteen
10/30/20 9:57:21 PM
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Ffs even the military doesn't spout this mindset.

This is a goddamned disgusting shame and the entirety of the state of Kentucky needs to be gutted of all of its leadership at all levels of the state and local governments. It's clear the entire state is rotten to the goddamned core.

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FlameTurtle
10/31/20 5:23:26 PM
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Antifar posted...
The government has said that it was
*crickets*

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teepan95
11/02/20 4:59:21 AM
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Not good!
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scar the 1
11/02/20 5:16:06 AM
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This is actually a little chilling. Of course the cop guy is doing damage control instead of introspection

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KnightofShikari
11/02/20 5:21:04 AM
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billcom6
11/03/20 2:25:42 PM
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https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2020/11/02/kentucky-state-police-commissioner-rodney-brewer-resigning/6133883002/

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creativerealms
11/03/20 4:34:42 PM
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TheCodeisBosco posted...
But remember, Mitch McConnell will "Keep Kentucky Great" if he wins.
When. McConnell isn't going to lose.

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