Board 8 > Anybody knowledgeable on Punisher comics?

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Punnyz
09/06/20 12:59:33 PM
#1:


Its weird I haven't read those, huh? But I just don't read comics in general

well anyways, I know occasionally he'll deal with a super. Afterall didn't he debut in a Spidey comic?

And IIRC Ghost Rider's Penance Stare doesn't work on him either

but my question is

like, has he ever dealt with like, a COSMIC being? Like Phoenix or something

I know they'll probably try NOT to make Punisher in their line of fire because not only thats not really his jurisdiction but ...he can't do much any ways

but it..must've come up before, right?

Or at least, Something he was REALLY Woefully under prepared for

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PrivateBiscuit1
09/06/20 1:01:39 PM
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He was Cosmic Ghost Rider for a while and a Herald of Galactus.

He also got the War Machine armor for a while too.

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BetrayedTangy
09/06/20 1:05:14 PM
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Yeah Cosmic Ghost Rider came to mind immediately. It was in the Thanos Wins arc, I highly recommend it

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bryans7
09/06/20 1:22:21 PM
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He usually doesn't dip into that stuff in his own book, it's usually team books and crossovers where Frank interacts with the crazier parts of the marvel universe.

Like in Thunderbolts (which is where he tanked the Penance Stare) where he went to Hell with the team, among other places.

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Punnyz
09/06/20 1:22:29 PM
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Theres a COSMIC Ghost Rider now? and Punisher was him? lol

okay okay, that sounds awesome actually

but what about same question, but REGULAR ass Punisher

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Snake5555555555
09/06/20 1:24:29 PM
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Yeah before Cosmic Ghost Rider (which isn't the main universe Frank, just to be clear) hadn't really come up against anyone totally Cosmic. Punisher did face off against Sentry (one of the most powerful Marvel characters, basically a psychotic Superman) during Dark Reign, and while he didn't defeat him, Punisher was actually able to hold him off and out-gambit Sentry to escape. It's a cool issue.

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DeathChicken
09/06/20 1:28:40 PM
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He's had a few crossovers with Batman. He usually loses

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Punnyz
09/06/20 1:30:55 PM
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I was just wondering if hes ever seen like, galactus walking outside of his house and hes like "I ain't gonna touch that" or something

or even the opposite, he TRIES but gets blasted away or something

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Punnyz
09/06/20 1:31:08 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
Yeah before Cosmic Ghost Rider (which isn't the main universe Frank, just to be clear) hadn't really come up against anyone totally Cosmic. Punisher did face off against Sentry (one of the most powerful Marvel characters, basically a psychotic Superman) during Dark Reign, and while he didn't defeat him, Punisher was actually able to hold him off and out-gambit Sentry to escape. It's a cool issue.
Yea there we go, that sounds great!

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Snake5555555555
09/06/20 1:38:41 PM
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And you can't forget the time Punisher actually became an angel himself, though despite that he still fought street-level crooks. And it's one of the most crap Punisher arcs ever!

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PrivateBiscuit1
09/06/20 1:40:53 PM
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Remember when Punisher made himself black?

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JackMan
09/06/20 1:41:06 PM
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Not quite cosmic, but he recently killed a load of ice giants, then stole one of Thor's space goats to go on a killing spree across the universe to track down some that he missed.

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bryans7
09/06/20 1:41:27 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
And you can't forget the time Punisher actually became an angel himself

I was doing pretty good until you reminded me. Damn you.

Less shit was when he became Frankenstein.

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Snake5555555555
09/06/20 1:48:59 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Remember when Punisher made himself black?

I wish I didn't.

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Murphiroth
09/06/20 1:50:12 PM
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Frank tanking the Penance Stare was shit writing, to be fair. He shouldn't be able to.

Then again the PS has never been written consistently.

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DeathChicken
09/06/20 2:19:29 PM
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Yeah, they've never been able to decide if the Penance Stare amplifies your internal guilt (which Frank should be able to avoid, he doesn't think he's doing anything wrong) or if it whammies you with the pain you've caused in life (which should fuck Frank sideways)

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JackMan
09/06/20 2:36:55 PM
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I'd say recently they've been leaning towards the former, based on how it affects Thanos.

https://i.redd.it/t5zt2tof27q11.jpg

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Murphiroth
09/06/20 2:52:23 PM
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The internal guilt interpretation makes no sense considering that means it wouldn't work on the majority of evil assholes in comics.

Thanos gets hit with the pain version but doesn't work just because he gets off on it.

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Punnyz
09/06/20 3:15:59 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Remember when Punisher made himself black?
I read that as just "back"

and I thought you were implying he was probably dead and then willed himself back to life through his want to kill criminals

now I need to know the black thing
was it just black face like Tropic Thunder

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PrivateBiscuit1
09/06/20 3:19:01 PM
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https://www.cbr.com/remember-to-forget-that-time-the-punisher-became-a-black-guy/

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Punnyz
09/06/20 3:23:08 PM
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bryans7 posted...


Less shit was when he became Frankenstein.
the doctor or the monster

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Murphiroth
09/06/20 3:26:33 PM
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Punnyz posted...
the doctor or the monster

https://i.imgur.com/LRfHu07.jpg

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PrivateBiscuit1
09/06/20 3:28:42 PM
#23:


Comic books are Very Stupid, but Sometimes Okay.

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JackMan
09/06/20 4:29:11 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
The internal guilt interpretation makes no sense considering that means it wouldn't work on the majority of evil assholes in comics.

Thanos gets hit with the pain version but doesn't work just because he gets off on it.
I mean, isn't it fine that it doesn't work on everyone?

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Murphiroth
09/06/20 4:39:56 PM
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JackMan posted...
I mean, isn't it fine that it doesn't work on everyone?

Having it not work on some people is fine, sure, but when you're supposed to be one of the most powerful entities in Marvel and your entire schtick is vengeance against evil, having your best ability able to be no sold by 90% of the very people you're supposed to punish just because they don't feel guilt is suspect as hell.

Pain version >>>>>>>>> guilt version.

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Punnyz
09/06/20 6:22:15 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
https://i.imgur.com/LRfHu07.jpg
There needs to be a what if where Punisher ends crime and then he becomes the Doctor to resurrect villains just to fight them

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