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Giant_Aspirin 08/27/20 9:33:59 AM #1: |
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/opinion/trump-us-coronavirus.html
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ThunderTrain 08/27/20 9:34:56 AM #2: |
Thats because the CDC and hospitals are lying about the numbers to get more money. Theyre also counting things like car accidents as coronavirus deaths - Republicans
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Southernfatman 08/27/20 9:36:12 AM #3: |
A supposed noble sacrifice so our rich overlords could continue making obscene amounts of money they don't deserve.
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Pogo_Marimo 08/27/20 9:37:31 AM #4: |
Blood is needed to grease the wheels of capitalism.
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BobanMarjanovic 08/27/20 9:38:57 AM #5: |
Thought I was on the politics board for a second. Be better CE
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FortuneCookie 08/27/20 9:40:08 AM #6: |
This is what happens when you have a leader who enables anti-mask sentiment.
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ZevLoveDOOM 08/27/20 9:41:06 AM #7: |
#1 baby!!
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KnightofShikari 08/27/20 9:43:34 AM #8: |
"you can't just use those numbers that make us look bad, you gotta use these weird statistical numbers that no one else would ever use to make us look better. also, everything that contradicts us is fake news, even what i said 10 seconds ago is fake news and out of context. in fact, this conversation never actually happened, fake news"
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SolidShadow3 08/27/20 9:43:50 AM #9: |
I mean... we are winning at that. It's not a good win, but if there was a "who let the most citizens die of Covid" contest; we'd be number 1
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Strider102 08/27/20 9:44:49 AM #10: |
We have achieved MAGA.
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MARKINGRAM22 08/27/20 9:46:19 AM #11: |
Are we just going to pretend like most the world actually has available testing and is reporting accurate numbers? You got literally leaders of countries in Africa dying from COVID.
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Irony 08/27/20 9:47:28 AM #12: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Are we just going to pretend like most the world actually has available testing and is reporting accurate numbers? You got literally leaders of countries in Africa dying from COVID.Most of the world isn't trying to stop testing --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 08/27/20 9:47:28 AM #13: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Are we just going to pretend like most the world actually has available testing and is reporting accurate numbers? You got literally leaders of countries in Africa dying from COVID. The only reason the US has problem testing is Trump. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/27/20 9:49:17 AM #14: |
That's because we test too much
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RemixRBG 08/27/20 9:51:04 AM #15: |
That's incredible when you look at how it supposedly started in China
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Giant_Aspirin 08/27/20 9:51:17 AM #16: |
hockeybub89 posted...
That's because we test too much this is talking about deaths, not the # of cases. --- Playing: Judgment; Streets of Rage 4; Rocket League You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom36 08/27/20 10:02:16 AM #17: |
There is an underlying factor here in all of this that no one is discussing. At least amongst the developed nations of the world, the US is perhaps in the poorest health, mostly due to poor diets and a complete lack of any iota of real nutrition on a regular basis. This leads to weakened immune systems making the US more susceptible to a pandemic than any developed country on Earth.
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Giant_Aspirin 08/27/20 10:04:14 AM #18: |
also incompetent leadership
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Questionmarktarius 08/27/20 10:44:18 AM #19: |
Freedom and fatasses
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Lyrica 08/27/20 10:47:00 AM #20: |
ThunderTrain posted...
Thats because the CDC and hospitals are lying about the numbers to get more money. Theyre also counting things like car accidents as coronavirus deaths - RepublicansThis, plus we likely test more. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 08/27/20 10:47:24 AM #21: |
Lyrica posted...
This, plus we likely test more. that would explain a higher # of cases but not deaths --- Playing: Judgment; Streets of Rage 4; Rocket League You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meralonne 08/27/20 10:49:43 AM #22: |
BobanMarjanovic posted...
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Guide 08/27/20 10:50:57 AM #23: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Are we just going to pretend like most the world actually has available testing and is reporting accurate numbers? You got literally leaders of countries in Africa dying from COVID. Most of the world? No. But countries with less resources and logistical infrastructure aren't fucking up on testing because of the leaders of their fucking nation. Fuck Trump. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Houston 08/27/20 10:53:01 AM #24: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
that would explain a higher # of cases but not deaths Check out some other countries. Like the UK, France, and Italy. The U.S. has roughly 5x higher population than each of them. So multiply their number of deaths by 5 and see what the number is compared to our deaths. The U.S. is not shockingly ahead in terms of deaths, when you take into account population *and* the healthiness (or lack thereof) of our population compared to other nations. The media keeps saying "highest number of deaths" "highest number of deaths" without stating the obvious that we have a lot more people. It's disingenuous. --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pope_Francis_I 08/27/20 10:56:00 AM #25: |
It's because we put our elderly in nursing homes instead of starving them out like most countries
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voldothegr8 08/27/20 10:59:34 AM #26: |
Deaths per capita USA is right in the middle of the pack
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ElatedVenusaur 08/27/20 11:01:01 AM #27: |
Pope_Francis_I posted...
It's because we put our elderly in nursing homes instead of starving them out like most countriesNot if you're comparing us to developed nations. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 08/27/20 11:03:59 AM #28: |
Houston posted...
Check out some other countries. Like the UK, France, and Italy. The U.S. has roughly 5x higher population than each of them. So multiply their number of deaths by 5 and see what the number is compared to our deaths. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality UK and Italy have more deaths per capita, but France has less. The thread title is similar to media reports I've seen - comparing percentages. Do you feel this is "disingenuous"? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Houston 08/27/20 11:11:10 AM #29: |
Ruvan22 posted...
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality The headlines I see and talking heads largely are not comparing percentages. The headlines are always one sided. Why not have a headline saying the U.S death rates are average compared to other countries? Why lead with a single fact that would lead someone who is just skimming article titles say, "Oh wow, that sounds really, really bad. We are doing horrible compared to everyone else"? The things I see are quick to lead people to these conclusions. They are politicizing deaths and it's quite shameful. --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 08/27/20 11:18:08 AM #30: |
Houston posted...
The headlines I see and talking heads largely are not comparing percentages. The headlines are always one sided. Why not have a headline saying the U.S death rates are average compared to other countries? Why lead with a single fact that would lead someone who is just skimming article titles say, "Oh wow, that sounds really, really bad. We are doing horrible compared to everyone else"? Hmm... guess we take in different things.. Trump, who you often praise and say "makes sense" often claims stats and numbers that are incorrect, which leads to him saying things like "The US is doing really good, I'm doing the most of anyone", and his staff/supporters repeating the same incorrect facts and conclusions. Do you find this politicization shameful as well? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rathinor 08/27/20 11:20:09 AM #31: |
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lurk 08/27/20 11:20:33 AM #32: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
this is talking about deaths, not the # of cases.Tc isnt smart enough to tell sarcasm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Houston 08/27/20 11:23:01 AM #33: |
Ruvan22 posted...
Hmm... guess we take in different things.. Trump, who you often praise and say "makes sense" often claims stats and numbers that are incorrect, which leads to him saying things like "The US is doing really good, I'm doing the most of anyone", and his staff/supporters repeating the same incorrect facts and conclusions. Do you find this politicization shameful as well? Are you able to show me an example of article titles that point the U.S. deaths/cases in a neutral light without having to read further into the article or do more research on your own? What specific things did Trump say are untrue about "I'm doing the most of anyone"? In what context are you referring to? What is he referring to when you use that quote? What incorrect facts are his staff saying? --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 08/27/20 11:24:19 AM #34: |
Implying we can trust the numbers coming out of china/russia.
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Rathinor 08/27/20 11:25:10 AM #35: |
Houston posted...
What specific things did Trump sayAhhhh, so NOW you're all about specifics? Yet heaping praise on Trump for inheriting a booming economy when he entered office, when asked about specifics then, you just run away. Interesting ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 08/27/20 11:27:51 AM #36: |
All most people see and understand are the headlines and death count. Going into any further details on the matter is almost a waste of time.
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Houston 08/27/20 11:28:29 AM #37: |
Rathinor posted...
Ahhhh, so NOW you're all about specifics? Yet heaping praise on Trump for inheriting a booming economy when he entered office, when asked about specifics then, you just run away. I'm not sure what you're talking about. I just want to clarify what fact Trump was referring to when he said "I'm doing the most of anyone". I can't offer any insight on just a quote without knowing what Ruvan was referring to or what Trump was referring to when he said that. --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 08/27/20 11:29:10 AM #38: |
I mean, we can just cover the recent event with the RNC.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics/republican-national-convention-first-night-fact-check/index.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/27/fact-checking-third-night-2020-republican-national-convention/ https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/08/26/us/rnc-fact-check And here's the broad scale, with specific cases. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/ https://www.factcheck.org/person/donald-trump/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/#34186c791e17 Feel free to disprove all of it. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rathinor 08/27/20 11:30:46 AM #39: |
Houston posted...
"I'm doing the most of anyone".Trump sat on his fat ass for two months telling everyone that it wasn't a big deal and that any reports of it being bad were just a Democrat hoax designed to make him look bad. Meanwhile, his administration in fact DID prepare for it to get bad, but scrapped their plan because it looked to hit blue states hardest and they thought it would be politically beneficial to let it ride ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 08/27/20 11:30:48 AM #40: |
Houston posted...
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I just want to clarify what fact Trump was referring to when he said "I'm doing the most of anyone". He's done it a few times, here's one https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/09/04/trump-nobodys-ever-done-a-better-job-than-im-doing-as-president/ --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowMustard69 08/27/20 11:31:20 AM #41: |
The US has 5 times as many deaths than they should.
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Ruvan22 08/27/20 12:26:43 PM #42: |
Houston posted...
Are you able to show me an example of article titles that point the U.S. deaths/cases in a neutral light without having to read further into the article or do more research on your own? I would say the JHU link I provided did exactly that - described data neutrally. As to what Trump has said, and then been repeated by staff/supporters, the posters below me provided quite a few examples. Additionally, I will say a lot of the recent statements in the RNC have done the same, and Trump's recent tweet about the "deep state" working with the FDA to slow down therapies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 08/27/20 12:27:06 PM #43: |
YellowMustard69 posted...
The US has 5 times as many deaths than they should. Do you have a source for that last claim? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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seqntenialbeast 08/27/20 12:33:09 PM #44: |
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seqntenialbeast 08/27/20 12:34:12 PM #45: |
I realize no liberal gives two fucks about the facts, but tons of countries, many in Europe, have more deaths in relation to their population than the United States.
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ThunderTrain 08/27/20 12:35:58 PM #46: |
seqntenialbeast posted...
I realize no liberal gives two fucks about the facts, but tons of countries, many in Europe, have more deaths in relation to their population than the United States. That's a lot of deaths for a new hoax from the Democrats. --- Without this nobody reads the last line of a post Look at all these slave masters posing on your dollar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 08/27/20 12:37:30 PM #47: |
seqntenialbeast posted...
I realize no liberal gives two fucks about the facts, but tons of countries, many in Europe, have more deaths in relation to their population than the United States.https://imgur.com/HGNpOsj --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaltyWet 08/27/20 12:51:06 PM #48: |
China recently canceled 21 million cell phone accounts.
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DontHateMe 08/27/20 12:52:33 PM #49: |
Oof, drumpf and his trumpies killing the world, one nation at a time.
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thronedfire2 08/27/20 12:54:28 PM #50: |
USA #1!
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