Current Events > Why did the CHOP/CHAZ/CHUD experiment fail?

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REMercsChamp
07/02/20 11:26:20 PM
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The goal was of pure heart and nobleness but still failed in the end. How can we, as a society, get it right next time?

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TomNook20
07/02/20 11:27:34 PM
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ThePrinceFish
07/02/20 11:28:35 PM
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The same thing that happens to every socialist utopia. Capitalist agents from the United States infiltrated and fucked it all up. We'll get em next time comrades.

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DoctorPiranha3
07/02/20 11:30:02 PM
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Low consciousness lowlifes do not a good CHOP zone make. If these were some zen masters and yogis, there'd be nothing but peace.

Try again in a thousand years, america.
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Kildread
07/02/20 11:30:02 PM
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It was always destined to fail.

It's odd they let it leech off the existing infrastructure this long.


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DigitalCamera
07/02/20 11:30:44 PM
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People kept getting fuckin' shot.

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Xenozoa425
07/02/20 11:31:11 PM
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Because they are not the professionally trained Marxists.

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Paragon21XX
07/02/20 11:33:00 PM
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Because communism is the very definition of failure.
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SolidShadow3
07/02/20 11:33:48 PM
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Because they couldnt sustain themselves amd had no capital to trade. It was an extreme LARP.

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REMercsChamp
07/02/20 11:34:09 PM
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I saw a video of it, it was the middle of the day and there was some bum looking middle aged guy digging in the dirt with a stick and a woman beside him sleeping under garbage bags and someone went and passed her a joint or something

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Dark_SilverX
07/02/20 11:35:04 PM
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It was called living the dream

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bobbysjoby2
07/02/20 11:36:00 PM
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The kid that got shot by chaz security was driving there after robbing a vehicle and being advised to go to chaz where he would be safe from punishment and nothing would happen to him
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Guide
07/02/20 11:36:50 PM
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Only failed cause there were shooters from outside of the commune.

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billcom6
07/02/20 11:38:28 PM
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It wasn't an experiment. SPD just abandoned a police station for no reason and people kept living there.

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EnterTheTekken
07/03/20 12:10:34 AM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
I still don't understand this.

How can the mayor and city council of Seattle let this happen and NOT expect the swiftest lawsuit windfall in American legal history to land on them? They are going to have to pay out some major dollars. And that's not including cleanup and restoration, and potentially some wrongful death suits for those killed there.

Did they mayor think there would be no consequences for allowing this? That no one would take any legal action?


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REMercsChamp
07/03/20 12:11:26 AM
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Lawsuit for what exactly

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TooLateToGoBack
07/03/20 12:14:27 AM
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because larping doesn't translate to actual success
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ohiostate124
07/03/20 12:18:22 AM
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Why did it fail? Why did anyone think it actually had a chance to succeed?
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Xenozoa425
07/03/20 12:28:33 AM
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I still don't understand this.

How can the mayor and city council of Seattle let this happen and NOT expect the swiftest lawsuit windfall in American legal history to land on them? They are going to have to pay out some major dollars. And that's not including cleanup and restoration, and potentially some wrongful death suits for those killed there.

Did they mayor think there would be no consequences for allowing this? That no one would take any legal action?
It's also worth noting that a lot of the major civil unrest you see in these large cities like Seattle, Minneapolis and St. Louis, their mayors (and some of the state governors) are Democratic. The other day, Trump made a statement that most violence happens in Democrat-run cities. Some block-head of a Washington Post journalist posted an article with a headline that read "They aren't" and had data from the FBI that directly contradicted the headline. Per capita of 10,000 people, the top 20 most violent cities in America are run by 19 Democrat mayors and 1 Independent. Ignoring per capita and going off just the largest cities with the most violence, 17 are run by Democrats, 2 are Independent and 1 is run by a Republican.

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1276872425997656070

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ThunderTrain
07/03/20 12:32:06 AM
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It literally doesnt matter what political party the mayor of a major city is there will be crimes

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Lordgold666
07/03/20 12:35:45 AM
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Lol @ chud zone

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Romes187
07/03/20 12:36:38 AM
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This isnt real chop

next time guys
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Xenozoa425
07/03/20 12:41:00 AM
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ThunderTrain posted...
It literally doesnt matter what political party the mayor of a major city is there will be crimes
Except the most notorious examples of these crimes are taking place in the Democrat run cities, and like the other poster said, the mayors just sit back and do nothing.

  • Minneapolis (where George Floyd was murdered)
  • Seattle (CHOP/CHAZ)
  • NYC (was a Covid epicenter, police are defunded over $1 billion)
  • St. Louis (the infamous Ken + Karen couple that's being slandered)
  • Chicago (oddly not getting the MSM coverage it deserves, more than 100 people shot over father's day weekend, including 14 deaths, 5 of which were children)
  • Los Angeles (thousands of people marching in the streets during the first week of the protesting and riots)

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ThunderTrain
07/03/20 9:35:00 AM
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Okay so what would a Republican mayor do? Lol. They dont wanna win the big cities so they can blame things on the Democrats like they always do

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Xenozoa425
07/03/20 10:07:08 AM
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ThunderTrain posted...
Okay so what would a Republican mayor do?
Use their police? Instead of defunding them or shaming them.

It took weeks of inaction to get the National Guard to come in and clean up CHOP/CHAZ, the president insisted on bringing in help from day 1, and the mayor sat back and did nothing. She even visited and claimed there was no crime, while people were being extorted for money and people were shot.

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AlephZero
07/03/20 10:27:46 AM
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Remember when the mayor of Seattle said it would be the Summer of Love and then CHAZ "security" executed an unarmed black kid.

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Middle hope
07/03/20 10:30:01 AM
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Fuckin chuds didnt even last as long as the Confederate's.

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ScazarMeltex
07/03/20 10:30:10 AM
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Xenozoa425 posted...

* St. Louis (the infamous Ken + Karen couple that's being slandered)

Yeah you can fuck right off with this one. I live in Saint Louis. These people aren't being slandered. No one broke down the gate and came charging through like these fucking clowns said. People walked in through an unlocked pedestrian gate, which was then later damaged, and these fucks decided to brandish weapons while breaking every fucking rule of firearm safety. Everyone else who lives in that neighborhood signed and released a statement coondemning the McCloskeys.

As to your main point, yes larger cities have more crime because people actually fucking live in them. What a shocker.

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Monolith1676
07/03/20 10:32:21 AM
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AlephZero posted...
Remember when the mayor of Seattle said it would be the Summer of Love and then CHAZ "security" executed an unarmed black kid.

CHAZ/CHOP was the most racist place in all of the US. 100% of shooting victims and murder victims were black.

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OgesMC
07/03/20 10:36:41 AM
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They call themselves chud too? As in C.H.U.D.? If so, thats worthy of an lol
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monkmith
07/03/20 10:42:49 AM
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inconsistent nomenclature.

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IShall_Run_Amok
07/03/20 11:01:24 AM
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Not enough resources, not enough organization. Revolutionary action requires a massive movement, not small efforts like this which are isolated. That said, this whole affair has proven that there is hope. The Seattle Police Department did abandon the area, and it was non-violent protesters which achieved this. Imagine what organized and properly equipped protesters could do. And imagine it on a massive scale. It's happened before, after all, and it's needed to happen in this country for over a century.

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Romes187
07/03/20 12:59:06 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Not enough resources, not enough organization. Revolutionary action requires a massive movement, not small efforts like this which are isolated. That said, this whole affair has proven that there is hope. The Seattle Police Department did abandon the area, and it was non-violent protesters which achieved this. Imagine what organized and properly equipped protesters could do. And imagine it on a massive scale. It's happened before, after all, and it's needed to happen in this country for over a century.

haha next time when its real organized itll work

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AlephZero
07/03/20 1:01:29 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
And imagine it on a massive scale.
Imagine how many black kids could get murdered if CHAZ spread.

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IShall_Run_Amok
07/03/20 1:32:36 PM
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Romes187 posted...
haha next time when its real organized itll work

lmao
"When its different it will work lulz what a dum,b thing to say".

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Artemis86
07/03/20 1:47:27 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
"When its different it will work lulz what a dum,b thing to say".
It is fucking dumb when the only difference in situations is "more people will squat on public lands."
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IShall_Run_Amok
07/03/20 1:56:50 PM
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Artemis86 posted...
It is fucking dumb when the only difference in situations is "more people will squat on public lands."
I want more people to squat on public lands, though. It belongs to them. They're the public.

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