Current Events > You have to accept phased reopenings if you don't want to stay inside forever

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There will always be cases of this virus somewhere out there from now. It will never get to 0. So if you want to wait until the virus is eradicated from the Earth, you will literally be waiting forever. The only alternative is phased reopenings so I suggest you learn to accept it sooner than later.

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No shit, but there is a time to start doing it. That's not that hard to understand. Yes it's impractical to wait until it's eradicated, but maybe wait until you aren't losing 3,000 people a day before you decide to add even more risk to the situation. For some places in the States were are just now getting past the peak, how about you wait a little bit and let the fucking decline show some more signs of things improving before you decide to open the floodgates.

But you don't care, it's either keep things shut or open it up. The world isn't black and white like that, its not all or nothing. Yes we need to open up before a vaccine, yes we need to open up in the near future, but that doesn't mean right now is the ideal situation. Fact is you can't find any epidemiologist to go one record to condone opening up right now. On the other hand you can find plenty of economists saying we shouldn't open up yet. That should tell you all you need to know.

I don't even agree with the media when it comes to virus and I even think it is dumb af to just reopen right now.

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REMercsChamp posted...

There will always be cases of this virus somewhere out there from now. It will never get to 0. So if you want to wait until the virus is eradicated from the Earth, you will literally be waiting forever. The only alternative is phased reopenings so I suggest you learn to accept it sooner than later.

Most people talking about "Phased reopening" are really saying "Phased reopenings now"

Which isn't something we have to accept.

TC, with this topic, are you talking about phased reopening things in the future or phased reopening now?

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I support phased reopenings once our healthcare workers aren't facing supply shortages, and we have a thorough testing program in place. Overwhelming our hospitals is still a major risk.

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Yeah but not now. We're still peaking.

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ok, as long as it comes with bolstered healthcare and mass testing, oh and full understanding that rolling out reopenings will absolutely cause multiple outbreaks that'll likely require re-closing everything to manage them...

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joe40001 posted...

TC, with this topic, are you talking about phased reopening things in the future or phased reopening now?

Whenever they're ready. I'm in Canada and we've had some provinces who have literally had 0 new cases for a week now. Should we keep them closed like Quebec which is seeing almost 1000 new cases a day and at the peak? And when Quebec starts declining and is at <100 cases a day and going down, or whatever the judgement that's made on that is, they should start having a plan to reopen put into place as well.

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TC has been trying to AstroTurf this shit for a few days for a few days now.

Yet he is a professed NEET so its really disingenuous.

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Start the phased reopening like 6 months from now at the earliest

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It's no greater in rate or magnitude than influenza has been for the past measurable decades, get over it. I go wherever I want still and intentionally cough all over anything. I don't even have it. I know the news told you scary things but maybe you should try looking into it yourself.

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I'm ok with phased reopenings, but I'm concerned we don't have the broad testing ability to do so at the moment. I mean California is the only state currently testing asymptomatic people, and they just started doing it. That seems like something that needs to be up and running before we consider opening states up.

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Rika_Furude posted...

Start the phased reopening like 6 months from now at the earliest

Mate you're in Australia with like 2 new cases a day and you want 6 more months of lock down

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REMercsChamp posted...

Whenever they're ready. I'm in Canada and we've had some provinces who have literally had 0 new cases for a week now. Should we keep them closed like Quebec which is seeing almost 1000 new cases a day and at the peak? And when Quebec starts declining and is at <100 cases a day and going down, or whatever the judgement that's made on that is, they should start having a plan to reopen put into place as well.

Well yeah, everyone on the other side agrees that when it's responsible it's a good idea to reopen. It's just most people bringing it up now seem to want it now.

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BakedStuffEtc posted...

It's no greater in rate or magnitude than influenza has been for the past measurable decades, get over it. I go wherever I want still and intentionally cough all over anything. I don't even have it. I know the news told you scary things but maybe you should try looking into it yourself.

God I hope this is a troll account.
In case not:
It's at least 10 times as deadly as the flu and considerably more contagious

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/health/abbott-laboratories-coronavirus-rapid-test/index.html

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Yes but phased reopenings starting now is dumb, it's way too soon.
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REMercsChamp posted...

Whenever they're ready. I'm in Canada and we've had some provinces who have literally had 0 new cases for a week now. Should we keep them closed like Quebec which is seeing almost 1000 new cases a day and at the peak? And when Quebec starts declining and is at <100 cases a day and going down, or whatever the judgement that's made on that is, they should start having a plan to reopen put into place as well.

Is Quebec quarantined and are people unable to travel to those provinces?

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If we stay closed for 6 months, the only businesses left will be the essential businesses that had stayed open. Goodbye theaters, zoos, theme parks, electronics shops, clothing stores, repair shops, etc.

You might as well rename America the United States of Amazon. Anything that isn't a food item will have to come from them.

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Squall28 posted...

Yeah but not now. We're still peaking.

We cant peak forever
You said we were peaking last week as well
So which is it really

You just need to shut the fuck up TC and stop making the same topics over and over cause no one cares what you have to say

Let the curve hit some low point, then phase. No one is opposed to this. The continued suggestions by certain political figures that this could happen within a month is routinely contradicted by medical health experts.

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gamer man posted...

We cant peak forever
You said we were peaking last week as well
So which is it really

You think you're making a point here, but you're not. No one thinks we're peaking forever, and that an extended high period has extended to at least a week doesn't mean anyone believes or implies that it's going to last forever.

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Skye Reynolds posted...

If we stay closed for 6 months, the only businesses left will be the essential businesses that had stayed open. Goodbye theaters, zoos, theme parks, electronics shops, clothing stores, repair shops, etc.

Buy gift cards from the places you support on a regular basis. They get the money now, you get the experience at a later date. Problem averted.

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Evening_Dragon posted...

You think you're making a point here, but you're not. No one thinks we're peaking forever, and that an extended high period has extended to at least a week doesn't mean anyone believes or implies that it's going to last forever.

ding ding

Unfortunately there's this mindset that if you want something to be true you just need to believe it hard enough, and to believe it hard it enough you just have to say it enough. And Donald Trump is their king.

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We need phased reopenings for brick and mortar stores effective immediately.
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Evening_Dragon posted...

You think you're making a point here, but you're not. No one thinks we're peaking forever, and that an extended high period has extended to at least a week doesn't mean anyone believes or implies that it's going to last forever.

Then dont call it a peak
A peak is the very top, you cant say we are at the top this week then stats change and look here comes the newer peak

oregon just hit the peak date. they racked up 5 deaths.
hopefully the numbers go down so there's a minor lifting of the lockdown restrictions (would take fast food reopen for carryout and beach access again).

if only the folks from washington wouldn't arrive in this town just yet. hotels, vacation homes, almost all businesses are closed.
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gamer man posted...

Then dont call it a peak
A peak is the very top, you cant say we are at the top this week then stats change and look here comes the newer peak

You can't say we are at the top for sure, but it's the best estimate. You take issue with the weather channel being off about weather?

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REMercsChamp posted...

Mate you're in Australia with like 2 new cases a day and you want 6 more months of lock down

Yes because obviously the lock down is working if the new cases have slowed down

What sort of moron looks at obvious results and then thinks "now is a good time to undo everything we have accomplished"

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What we really need is every bank thing making profits off of rent should be suspended and then all people having to pay rent get like a month off.

The struggling small businesses need help, they almost had the right idea except they ran out of money and didn't make sure big businesses didn't take advantage.

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cool i'll accept them when people stop dying
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Bad as my life is Im v grateful to at least not be tc

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