Current Events > So are the guys who predicted 18 month lockdowns going to admit they were wrong?

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I told you cases would be on the downturn in the last half of April and things would reopen

I was attacked fucking relentless on here by the doom-mongers who insisted it would be peaking in July and then followed by an 18 month complete lock down

So, yeah.

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So some states are having less active cases day over day. And in a lot of states the cases have peaked or are just beyond the peak and beginning to go down the second half of the curve.

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I could argue with this guy but he's clearly making yet another topic to troll so fuck it.


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Don't you think the current lockdown is why things are on the downturn?

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Tests are still not wide spread and readily available.

Re opening slowly is ideal and will happen but cases will spike again. This isnt going away until a vaccine is found or it runs its course through the population.

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My governor said today things will begin to open back up in phases starting May 1st. Hopefully the first phase includes hair places, my head is starting to look like a mushroom.
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Darmik posted...

Don't you think the current lockdown is why things are on the downturn?

Yeah absolutely it is.

And there comes a point where you need to say it's time to take an intelligent and careful approach in certain areas like they are now. You can't wait until all illness is eradicated from the Earth but I know there's a lot of people on here who think this way

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Isnt testing the issue though? All the people that get over the phone diagnosis or none at all arent counted. Lockdowns might ease up but social distancing will stay awhile either way.
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Who cares about viruses. We need Las Vegas, clubs, bars and sports around the world back.

Murrica!!!

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OgesMC posted...

Isnt testing the issue though? All the people that get over the phone diagnosis or none at all arent counted. Lockdowns might ease up but social distancing will stay awhile either way.

No. Testing is higher than it's ever been. Also a criteria to reopen is to have a very robust testing ability...this is what I'm saying, you guys aren't reading the fucking information you're hearing news sound-bites like "TRUMP THE MADMAN REOPENS COUNTRY TO APPEASE THE SHAREHOLDERS" then come on here and spout your bullshit

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Didn't you say you were Canadian, or am I thinking of someone else?

'Cause I'm pretty sure here in Canada we're gonna get "two more weeks'd" at least until the end of the year. If anything, the measures seem to be growing in severity.

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REMercsChamp posted...

Yeah absolutely it is.

And there comes a point where you need to say it's time to take an intelligent and careful approach in certain areas like they are now. You can't wait until all illness is eradicated from the Earth but I know there's a lot of people on here who think this way

I dont think its so much that, but the possibility does exist that therell be a huge resurgence once the country opens and well need to go on lockdown again some time in the future.

testing seems so risky to me
sounds like a great way to catch the virus if you dont already have it
theres a country in africa... gambia iirc that isnt testing because they dont have any of the kits and i honestly think they will handle this virus better than all the surrounding countries

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Ultima Dragon posted...

Didn't you say you were Canadian, or am I thinking of someone else?

'Cause I'm pretty sure here in Canada we're gonna get "two more weeks'd" at least until the end of the year. If anything, the measures seem to be growing in severity.

Yeah I'm in Ontario, Canada. I'm sure what you're seeing in the USA with this phased approach will pretty much be the same here in Canada. You've been hearing murmurings about phased reopenings in Ontario/Toronto for a while now and this seems like the most intelligent model to go by. We seem to have peaked here so we won't reopen yet we need more time to start seeing the trend go down which going by what's happened in other places will probably be in the next 2-4 weeks.

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Kami_no_Kami posted...

I dont think its so much that, but the possibility does exist that therell be a huge resurgence once the country opens and well need to go on lockdown again some time in the future.

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This is a bad troll topic. TC deserves to feel shame.

More seriously, it is way too early to say the shutdowns are over.

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TommyG663513 posted...

This is a bad troll topic. TC deserves to feel shame.

More seriously, it is way too early to say the shutdowns are over.

There's plain ignorance, then there's this shit


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Johnny_Nutcase posted...

I could argue with this guy but he's clearly making yet another topic to troll so fuck it.

Why do some here believe that getting corrected on something constitutes being trolled... I've never heard of trolling defined like that

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/
we were on a downturn but it seems like we might be going back up

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Yeah 18 month might come true because a re-opening is gonna cause a 2nd wave and we'll have essentially reset the timer for the minimum required lockdown to make this situation manageable. The sheer amount of death and the larger scope of lockdown required will most likely cause an even greater economic collapse.

Obviously it'd be great if we re-open, and somehow magically everything will be ok without a vaccine. Trump will just keep injecting untested poison into our bodies

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REMercsChamp posted...

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I will later. I was just saying, most people agree that there needs to be a time for society to reopen, but that doesnt discount the possibility that this virus could exist for a long ass time. 18 months all at once is obviously ridiculous but I wouldnt be surprised if it gets up there if it continues to mutate and is spaced out over the course of multiple years.

The parachute has just started to slow our fall. It's not time to detach it yet.

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Kami_no_Kami posted...

I will later. I was just saying, most people agree that there needs to be a time for society to reopen, but that doesnt discount the possibility that this virus could exist for a long ass time. 18 months all at once is obviously ridiculous but I wouldnt be surprised if it gets up there if it continues to mutate and is spaced out over the course of multiple years.

There are plans to deal with this with the phased approach. If it crossed your mind, you can be damn sure they thought of it too.

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We don't need the parachute anymore it already did it's job. The people fear mongering about us hitting the ground were clearly mistaken. Let's cut it loose!

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Nothing is going back to full normal in 18 months, I doubt they can vaccinate everyone in the world by that time

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I thought the reason for the lockdown wasn't that it would make corona go away. It was to buy time for a vaccine/better treatment. We still don't have a vaccine so unless they can test for those who have the antibodies gonna be a second wave.

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Lebronwon posted...

I thought the reason for the lockdown wasn't that it would make corona go away. It was to buy time for a vaccine/better treatment. We still don't have a vaccine so unless they can test for those who have the antibodies gonna be a second wave.

The point of the lockdown was to avoid the health care system from being overwhelmed.

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legendarylemur posted...

Yeah 18 month might come true because a re-opening is gonna cause a 2nd wave and we'll have essentially reset the timer for the minimum required lockdown to make this situation manageable. The sheer amount of death and the larger scope of lockdown required will most likely cause an even greater economic collapse.

Obviously it'd be great if we re-open, and somehow magically everything will be ok without a vaccine. Trump will just keep injecting untested poison into our bodies

It's a state by state, regional basis. The health officials on Trump's task force said they'd have a much better handle on it if there's a resurgence somewhere.

Conflict posted...

I don't think society would be able to sustain an 18-month lockdown. A lot of shit is already crumbling after a month and a half

I give it 5 to 6

You're going to see things reopening into phase 1 when they've met the 14 day trend criteria, influenza like symptom criteria and testing criteria. It'll be different for different areas of the country and whenever that is, it will be that. There's no predetermined date but a lot of areas should be able to reach phase 1 by the summer if they've been serious about the mitigation.

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I don't get why folks are upset with this plan. Makes sense to me. Do they all know a better way or something?

BawdySausage posted...

I don't get why folks are upset with this plan. Makes sense to me. Do they all know a better way or something?

Most of them don't know the plan they just heard a soundbite off the news saying Trump's reopening the country like a light switch turning on to appease the shareholders

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I still don't see a completely "normal" pre-pandemic world for at least 18 months. Hopefully some things will change forever because it turns out people are really fucking disgusting.

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hockeybub89 posted...

I still don't see a completely "normal" pre-pandemic world for at least 18 months. Hopefully some things will change forever because it turns out people are really fucking disgusting.

That is true. But there's a difference between ending a lockdown and getting back to pre-coronavirus status where everything is just completely open with no regard to health practices

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REMercsChamp posted...

Most of them don't know the plan they just heard a soundbite off the news saying Trump's reopening the country like a light switch turning on to appease the shareholders

Trump changes his plans every week. I don't give him a shred of credit for making a plan. Smarter people are doing the work here

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Less cases = people reopening stuff, people will go out.. and it will spread again. Not as bad, but in some areas.. I wouldn't be surprised if it's still pretty bad. Many people don't have face masks, many people still don't think it's a serious issue and other factors.

People want "normal" back in their lives, but likely don't want to understand that this is still serious. No cure, no vaccine means it could come back several more times if people aren't super careful. I don't see how businesses will enforce it, there isn't enough security to be hired. Limits on how many people enter a building have worked somewhat in places- but I doubt it will work everywhere.

Too many people care about profits over health, and its unfortunate. I hope more people are keeping track of the safer companies right now, it's a good time to not shop at places that aren't being safe.

TC why are you so hostile your Canadian

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apocalyptic_4 posted...

TC why are you so hostile your Canadian

We're a genuinely hostile people.

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apocalyptic_4 posted...

TC why are you so hostile your Canadian

Again, you aren't living in a bubble. What's going on in the USA is relevant to the rest of the world and especially Canada. I will bet you will see a very similar model of reopening in Canada.

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BawdySausage posted...

It's a state by state, regional basis. The health officials on Trump's task force said they'd have a much better handle on it if there's a resurgence somewhere.

My concern is that the non-problem states are instead gonna become problem states. Then you have shitholes like Michigan where Trump supporters are not wearing masks and gathering in large groups, blocking up streets so ambulances can't do their jobs, protesting to open up the state despite having the 4th largest infection rate and the 3rd largest death rate so...

It's possible a lot of states will open prematurely, and this situation will undoubtedly get worse than any short term economic recession can justify.

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REMercsChamp posted...

There are plans to deal with this with the phased approach. If it crossed your mind, you can be damn sure they thought of it too.

Im sure they did. My point was simply Dont count your chickens until theyve hatched.

Their plan might make things better, but with the aggressive topic title, youll have egg on your face if it makes things worse. I do say this from a place of not knowing the specifics of the release though, so I apologize for that.

legendarylemur posted...

It's possible a lot of states will open prematurely,

Your fears are unfounded. They will be coming down very hard on states that try this.

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REMercsChamp posted...

There's plain ignorance, then there's this shit

LOL

Well you tried, sort of.

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Kami_no_Kami posted...

Im sure they did. My point was simply Dont count your chickens until theyve hatched.

Their plan might make things better, but with the aggressive topic title, youll have egg on your face if it makes things worse. I do say this from a place of not knowing the specifics of the release though, so I apologize for that.

Point is - there's states that have met the criteria of the phase 1 opening already and have the green light to go to that. At the end of the day you can't force people to leave their homes.

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REMercsChamp posted...

Your fears are unfounded. They will be coming down very hard on states that try this.

Who the fuck is they lmfao. Trump who wants to open the entire nation?

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REMercsChamp posted...

No. Testing is higher than it's ever been. Also a criteria to reopen is to have a very robust testing ability...this is what I'm saying, you guys aren't reading the fucking information you're hearing news sound-bites like "TRUMP THE MADMAN REOPENS COUNTRY TO APPEASE THE SHAREHOLDERS" then come on here and spout your bullshit

I listen to my governers briefing everyday, friend. Testing availability in my state is still low, what bullshit are you referring to besides your own?
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OgesMC posted...

I listen to my governers briefing everyday, friend. Testing availability in my state is still low, what bullshit are you referring to besides your own?

Then they won't be one of the states reopening.

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