Board 8 > 6 > 4 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 7 > 1 > 8

(+) Yeah! (+)

Been awhile since I've seen one of these around here.

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6 is awful and 8 doesn't even really count, but yeah it's last if you do count it.

2 is also unusually high.

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Underleveled posted...

6 is awful and 8 doesn't even really count, but yeah it's last if you do count it.

2 is also unusually high.

You're awful! Wait, what are we talking about? Also there's 11 or 12 Mega Mans now, but I agree 8 is the worst.

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This is King's Quest, right? Can't be that many things with 6 in first and 8 in last. 5 seems a bit high though.

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Zenithian Legend posted...

You're awful! Wait, what are we talking about? Also there's 11 or 12 Mega Mans now, but I agree 8 is the worst.

If it's Mega Man that's probably the lowest I've ever seen someone have 3.

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>FF2 over FF7
HIPSTER

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Underleveled posted...

6 is awful and 8 doesn't even really count, but yeah it's last if you do count it.

2 is also unusually high.

'You clearly don't have the right thing, but I agree that 8 probably shouldn't even really count; that's why I have it even below 1!

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5 > 7 > 3 > 6 > 4 > 8 > 2 > 1
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Haven't seen Star Wars IX yet, huh?

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MZero11 posted...

Haven't seen Star Wars IX yet, huh?

Actually, I haven't, but this is a video game topic!

Though I actually haven't played 8 in this, either. I'm just not happy with what they did with the series during 7.

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5 and 3 too low (I know 5 is divisive but it's my favorite so)

also what darkx said about 8 not counting and 2 being weirdly high
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I'm pretty sure they're not up to 8 of those yet. Well, not in numbered sequels, anyway.
Drakeryn posted...

5 and 3 too low (I know 5 is divisive but it's my favorite so)

also what darkx said about 8 not counting and 2 being weirdly high

Pretty sure we're not talking about the same thing, though I can't think of what you'd be talking about.

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No? Nothing else? I'm half tempted to let this sit until morning but fuck it, I want to go on my rant.

That bit about being conflicted about where to rank 7? That's taking all mainline games vs. the 3DS games alone. That's right...in honor of HGSS in today's poll, this is a ranking of Pokmon generations.

And let's be honest, 4-6 are really close. I could easily put 5 ahead of 4, because one of the main reasons that even without LGPE, 7's well below 6 is that it took out some of 5's innovations, like triple battles.

Because the reason 7 falls so low is because of the Let's Go games, and the reason 8 is at the bottom is that they kept that mechanic and I think also dumbed down the rest of the 1P? I'm not completely sure. I really probably shouldn't have included 8 at all until I played it for myself. But seriously, the Pokmon Go-ification of the mainline series...yes, it's even worse than the glitchy, unbalanced mess that is Gen I. (Or in the case of Yellow, not quite as glitchy but still unbalanced. Seriously, there are way too few moves and way too many Pokmon that learn both Leer and Tail Whip, two moves with identical effects.)

Gen II? It's actually perfectly fine. Still not the most stable, but a lot of that is because it can interface with Gen I (and break it harder). The immediate nerfing of the Psychic type, and more importantly the Special Attack/Special Defense split, make Gen II perfectly viable, if a bit bare bones compared to later gens due to the lack of Abilities.

But back to Pokmon Go. It's a blight on the fandom. I can deal with actual Genwunners; their opinion is wrong, but they're entitled to their nostalgia goggles, and besides, there is a certain charm to a game that basically serves as its own Game Shark, allowing you to do all sorts of weird stuff if you know what you're doing. Call it Video Game Programming 101. But when Go first came out (which, I know, was still during Gen VI, but they hadn't started interfacing it with the main games yet) and it only had the Gen I Pokmon available, we were suddenly inundated with fake genwunners. People who didn't care aboutPokmon at all for the previous 20 years suddenly cared about the original 151. It was disgusting, and I stopped watching a lot of PokTubers when they started covering Go more than the actual games. So Game Freak deciding to integrate the catch mechanics from Go into the most recent main games? Inexcusable. This isn't Pokmon anymore.

So, that's what this is. I feel like most people either think each succeeding generation is better or each succeeding generation is worse, so I guess I'm not surprised that a ranking with the middle four generations in the top four spots tripped people up. And like I said, 4 and 5 were really close. Switch those two around, and you can see that I am, generally speaking, in the camp of the "keeps getting better", right up until the point that they sold out and made it into a glorified mobile game.

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Prepare to defend your position of Gen 6 being better than the DS games, or Gen 7 for that matter.

Well, Gen 6 gets to benefit from having the amazing Gen 3 remake. I mean honestly, if you want to go by starting pair of games alone, it's arguably 5 > 6 > 7 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 (and I'm not going to make my judgement about 8), though I might still put 6 ahead of 5. It's close. Gen 5 is really, really good. Gen 4 pulls ahead of Gen 5 solely on the strength of Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver, and that statement should tell you a lot about where my opinion is coming from because I doubt there are many people who would make that big a differentiation between Diamond/Pearl and Platinum.

Which also means there's still plenty of time for Gen 8 to save itself, since we're all expecting Sinnoh remakes soon. I'd say Sinnoh's probably my favorite region, but Hoenn's a close enough second that ORAS still gets to be my favorite pair of games. The Soaring mechanic? Really cool imo, and I especially love that all of the legendaries not native to Hoenn got their themes in the original soundfonts, down to the Legendary Beasts using a GBC chiptune (even though Raikou and Entei didn't actually use their variations on Suicune's Crystal battle theme until HGSS).

Also, Mega Evolution. Mega Evolution adds a whole new layer of strategy and also made old Pokmon viable again. It helped mitigate the effects of team preview, because a team with a Salamence and a Mega Metagross plays very differently than a team with a Metagross and a Mega Salamence, to use a couple of examples of Pokmon that could still see occasional play without their Megas. They tried to recapture that in Gen 7 with Z-Moves, but for the most part players were content to just use the attacking Z-Moves to nuke things instead of playing around with some of the cool effects of Z-Status moves. (Z-Mirror Move gives you a Swords Dance effect and still calls the Z version of whatever move it's copying. This would be even more broken if Mirror Move functioned like Copycat, which can call a move used by a Pokmon on your side of the field (like the gimmick with Prankster Focus Sash Riolu using Copycat to repeatedly call its own Reversal with priority), because then you could just pair Gale Wings Talonflame with an Extremespeed user and get a +2 priority Breakneck Blitz on Turn 1, but eh, still a fun play.)

But again, I want to reiterate: 6 isn't ahead of 4 and 5 by much.

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7 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 5 > 6 > 1

8 isn't really done yet so i haven't decided on it yet.

Though 7 is my favorite, 4 definitely had the best protagonist, and the best main villain.

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I love XY and I haven't even played ORAS. I just think that the game was the first one that really made the "Gotta Catch 'Em All" a thing for me. The introduction of Fairy-Types completely balanced the game for the better, and all of a sudden you could find cool Pokemon like Axew or Absol around the second gym, instead of finding nothing but Pidgey and Spearow and Hoothoot until you reached the third Gym or something.

People talk about rotating their teams in SwSh but that's something I already did in Y; I had 17 Pokemon that I rotated through, not having to grind because of the Exp Share and being spoiled for choice when it came to cool Pokmon.

Gen I: Best feel
Gen II: Best Dex
Gen III: Best region
Gen IV: Best OST
Gen V: Best engagement/story
Gen VI: Best Pokemon spread

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3 > 4 > 2 > 1 = 6 > 5

Even though the 5th gen is highly rated by most there's something about it that seems off to me, maybe the Pokemon selection or something.
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I'd agree with you on Gen VI if they made Pokemon Z. X/Y was just too bare bones for me, I like some of the changes they made, I just wish there was more story and content.

I will say though ORAS is overall one of the best Pokemon games out there

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5 > 4 >> 3 > 2 > 1 >= 6 > 7

I think. 1 and 6 are hardest to place for me. 6 in particular, because ORAS was really good, yet XY felt really lackluster, similar to RS and DP, but they had third versions making up for it.

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3 > 5 > 4 > 6 > 2 > 1 > 8 > 7

3 has my favorite (Emerald) and the other games are good too.

5 is all around great.

4 has my second favorite (HG/SS) but D/P drags it down and I'm not a huge Platinum fan either.

6 has my third favorite (OR/AS) and while X/Y weren't so great in retrospect, I had a lot of fun with my first playthrough and post game.

2 has Crystal which is the best of the old games.

1 has nostalgia and fun glitches at least.

8 is a mess but at least it doesn't overstay its welcome and has some good points.

7 is home to the worst Pokemon game (Let's Go) which set all sorts of bad precedents for 8 and probably the rest of the series. Ultra SuMo were also pretty lazy, unpolished, and bloated, so Aloha isn't doing this gen many favors either.
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OrangeCrush980 posted...

3 > 5 > 4 > 6 > 2 > 1 > 8 > 7

3 has my favorite (Emerald) and the other games are good too.

5 is all around great.

4 has my second favorite (HG/SS) but D/P drags it down and I'm not a huge Platinum fan either.

6 has my third favorite (OR/AS) and while X/Y weren't so great in retrospect, I had a lot of fun with my first playthrough and post game.

2 has Crystal which is the best of the old games.

1 has nostalgia and fun glitches at least.

8 is a mess but at least it doesn't overstay its welcome and has some good points.

7 is home to the worst Pokemon game (Let's Go) which set all sorts of bad precedents for 8 and probably the rest of the series. Ultra SuMo were also pretty lazy, unpolished, and bloated, so Aloha isn't doing this gen many favors either.

Have you thought about throwing in the towel?

Since were doing rankings

3 - A lot of this is due to nostalgia. However I firmly believe that FR/LG is the definitive way to play the Kanto games. Emerald is also a top tier Pokemon game in terms of content and story.

5 - Despite having only played Black 2, Gen 5 feels like the pinnacle of the franchise. It has the peak story and atmosphere. Plus a huge variety in Pokemon and content. I'm really looking forward to my eventual playthrough of White

6 - 6 and 4 are pretty close imo, but I'm giving 6 the edge, for starting off better as well as being a pretty solid end to the traditional formula. Plus the new features are great too. Again my only issue is the lack of Z hurts it more than anything.

4 - Diamond/Pearl are bad games. Seriously, I've attempted two playthroughs and gave up due to boredom both times. They run incredibly slow and on top of that have incredibly poor design choices. They're imo the second worst games in the series behind Let's Go. Thankfully HGSS and Platinum come in to save the day, but the original D/P got me to quit Pokemon until Gen 6.

1 - This one sort of speaks for itself, there's a ton of flaws in the originals. Yet it surprisingly remains pretty fun and is still incredibly revolutionary.

8 - Eh, SwSh's saving grace is having some of the coolest Pokemon since the move to 3D. Plus I love the twist on the gym leaders. Unfortunately my praise stops there. Dynamax is lame, since you have to farm for the Gigantamax versions and on top of that the Wild Area is completely lame too. Most the cool Pokemon are locked behind certain weather conditions and often have 1-5% chance of finding them. Not to mention minimal content.

7 - Ugh, maybe I hate Gen 7 because I recently did 3 playthroughs back to back just to complete my living dex, but similar to D/P, Sun and Moon got me to drop the franchise again. The overall pacing is garbage, Team Skull is cool in concept, then they don't deliver on anything and end up just being annoying, Z-Crystals are just watered down Mega Evolutions, Trials suck since the only real method of winning is by cheesing them half the time. Then there's the Let's Go games which deserve their own topic. The only two things I really enjoyed was some of the Pokemon (Toxapex being my favorite) and the Ultra Beasts plot and the idea of dimension hopping in general. Although I can't help but feel like that would've suited Gen 6 better, which was probably the plan initially if you look at the clues.

Haven't played 2


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