Board 8 > Super Mario Maker 2 Direct on May 15th (6:00 PM EST / 3:00 PM PST)

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https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1128298921871249413

Links to watch the Direct:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPNS1Fb1l8c" data-time="
https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=nintendo
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We already got slopes. It's hard to think of more things they could add.
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I was wondering when they'd start to actually market Mario Maker 2 in a significant way. Cool!

I think I got my fill with the Wii U version, but I could be swayed.
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The only thing I need to know is whether you need the full Nintendo online subscription to do anything. I'm worried that you probably will.
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Argh, my sons end-of-season soccer party is tomorrow night. Guess Ill be watching this late.
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Cybat posted...

The only thing I need to know is whether you need the full Nintendo online subscription to do anything. I'm worried that you probably will.

It's $20 for a year
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15 minutes of news and features seems like a lot for a sequel game like this. Kinda wondering now if they're not going to surprise us by having a 3D level mode, with 64/Galaxy/3D World tools and assets.
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Super Mario 64 level creation would make this a day one purchase.
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TomNook posted...

It's $20 for a year

yeah but you get literally nothing for it

so

nah
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You get nothing for it but somehow you still manage to miss out on a lot without it.
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SantaRPidgey posted...

TomNook posted...

It's $20 for a year

yeah but you get literally nothing for it

so

nah

A ton of NES games and a cloud backup. Having all those NES games on a handheld is easily worth it.
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yeah nintendo holds things that should be free hostage. I don't negotiate with terrorists
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Why should the NES games be free?
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SantaRPidgey posted...

TomNook posted...

It's $20 for a year

yeah but you get literally nothing for it

so

nah

you get Tetris 99
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TomNook posted...

Why should the NES games be free?

well... they are free. Any schmo can get the entire nes collection, which is just a few mbs in seconds. That's the model nintendo is competing against. If you want to pay 20 dollars a year for whats essentially the value of a newgrounds flash game that's fine, and thats your choice, but personally I can't imagine a worse value
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I already pay for my internet and I have no interest in paying a second time to allow any (much less all) of my consoles to use it, thank you. (Nintendo's offerings beyond the access itself are particularly scant compared to their competitors, but they've adjusted the price accordingly so if you're just focusing on that, it's hard to find fault.)
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SantaRPidgey posted...

TomNook posted...

Why should the NES games be free?

well... they are free. Any schmo can get the entire nes collection, which is just a few mbs in seconds. That's the model nintendo is competing against. If you want to pay 20 dollars a year for whats essentially the value of a newgrounds flash game that's fine, and thats your choice, but personally I can't imagine a worse value

I guess if you have a modded handheld or something, I can see that.
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A modded handheld can't play Tetris 99 so no thanks
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literally everyone owns a phone and nes emulators are free on the playstore
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I still think "If I can steal it then it's not valuable" is a horrible argument
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ok look at it this way, you're really in the mood for a peppermint circle. You're going to eat one.

Would you rather take one out of a front office bowl, or pay 20 dollars a year for one.

When you bring up "stealing" you're trying to make this about ethics and not objective value so I'm not going to engage you in a different argument
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What controller do you use for smart phone gaming? This is a real question, because I've never thought about that.
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If we want to talk about purely objective value, there's value in the online play added to the games, the ease of having them instantly on a handheld without having to set up an emulator, find roms, and get them onto the phone or whatever, and then there's value in stuff like Tetris 99.

Obviously anybody can decide if that's worth $20 a month to them, but to act like there's objectively nothing for that $20 is kinda dumb.
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I typically use the screen, it works just fine, even though you'd think it wouldn't be. When there's only two buttons it's pretty easy for your hands to acclimate (probably easier than using a computer tbqh)
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Cybat posted...

The only thing I need to know is whether you need the full Nintendo online subscription to do anything. I'm worried that you probably will.

its not about full subscription to do anything.

its about full subscription to play user created levels.

I want people to actually play my levels. Spending hours to fine tune a level just to have no one play it was so disheartening.
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SantaRPidgey posted...

I typically use the screen, it works just fine, even though you'd think it wouldn't be. When there's only two buttons it's pretty easy for your hands to acclimate (probably easier than using a computer tbqh)

Eh, that might work for some games. I agree, in that I've played some mobile games that use only left, right, and essentially an A and B, and they did play better than expected. But throwing in Up and Down, along with the games that require Select and Start. That might be a little rough.
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Nintendo is so stupid?

So are all of the original stages you made in Super Mario Maker 1 not transferable at all?

@Paratroopa1 @TomNook

Nintendo is so stupid.

SantaRPidgey posted...

ok look at it this way, you're really in the mood for a peppermint circle. You're going to eat one.

Would you rather take one out of a front office bowl, or pay 20 dollars a year for one.

When you bring up "stealing" you're trying to make this about ethics and not objective value so I'm not going to engage you in a different argument

this metaphor doesn't scan on a lot of levels

1) the front office buys those candies
2) the candies are very cheap to produce
3) your alternative - if you actually decided to purchase the candies - would actually be less of a value than nintendo online. you should actually say "pay 20 dollars a year for all you can eat peppermint circles" - which is actually a very good deal, as a large bag of those costs $7 (I actually buy them for my office)

Cybat posted...

The only thing I need to know is whether you need the full Nintendo online subscription to do anything. I'm worried that you probably will.

I don't think the online subscription will be required to play user-created levels, but downloading other people's levels for offline use will probably be locked behind the subscription. Uploading levels will almost certainly be locked behind the subscription.
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PButterAndJelly posted...

So are all of the original stages you made in Super Mario Maker 1 not transferable at all?

There could be problems if stages created for Super Mario Maker 1 were transferable. Some of the cool tricks that people were able to do in the first game were accomplished by exploiting the enemy/block/item limits. If these limits were increased in Super Mario Maker 2 due to being on a more powerful system, it would break levels that were created in the first game and possibly result in levels that are impossible to clear.

If levels from Super Mario Maker 1 can be transferred over, the creator should have to play through their level again to make sure it can still be cleared in Super Mario Maker 2 before they can upload it.
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Less than 30 minutes until the Direct begins.
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I dunno why some of this stuff couldnt work in the non-3D styles but ok
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Online multiplayer confirmed!
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well that looks amazing
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I never played the first one, but holy shit, this looks fucking fantastic!
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They even have an online bundle to make it a little more palatable for me! Back to full hype.
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also I feel like 3D World being in its own extra styles tab opens the door for more styles they wouldnt work with the other games... like maybe SMB2 as DLC?
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I don't see the point of the game voucher. You save $20, but it costs $20 to sign up for the online service, so I don't see how that would entice anyone to get the service.
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Mewtwo59 posted...

I don't see the point of the game voucher. You save $20, but it costs $20 to sign up for the online service, so I don't see how that would entice anyone to get the service.

I mean you're still saving $20 either way

Only reason it wouldn't save you money is if you reeeeally didn't want the online service.
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Mewtwo59 posted...

I don't see the point of the game voucher. You save $20, but it costs $20 to sign up for the online service, so I don't see how that would entice anyone to get the service.

its like the online service was free then

if you intended to buy two full price games anyway (which you probably will since first party Nintendo games barely get discounted) its pure upside
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It sounds like you can also buy the vouchers multiple times, so it's basically free NSO for the first two games, and then $20 off for the next two games.
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Only concern i have with the voucher is there is no promise of specific new games being added.

Mewtwo59 posted...

I don't see the point of the game voucher. You save $20, but it costs $20 to sign up for the online service, so I don't see how that would entice anyone to get the service.

Worded another way: the voucher makes the online subscription pay for itself right away! You buy two games and you got a free online subscription.

mnkboy907 posted...

It sounds like you can also buy the vouchers multiple times, so it's basically free NSO for the first two games, and then $20 off for the next two games.

and if this is the case damn I got some planning to do
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oh right about SMM2, damn I'm impressed. They're actually giving everything I want that I assumed they'd just hold back on, and that was my impression before they revealed story mode, 3D World, random entirely new stuff, and god damn multiplayer hell yes

This time hope I can do more of recording my plays of B8-made levels.... despite GTM's torture
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No console bundle though.

I want this when it lunches but also want the upgraded system.

Ugh
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So it looks like there's other playable characters, but you can only play them in multiplayer and you can't choose who you are?

nintendo why do you do this
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Well I'm guessing they all have Mario's physics anyway so maybe you'll be able to select a character after you beat story mode or something.
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I'm only ever going to play as Toadette
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Finally watching this direct.

They won me with embiggen already.
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I never got to play SMM1 but I believe I am in for this as soon as I understand the voucher-deal.

I currently do not have online service with my Switch. If I get SMM2 bundled with a year of online service for $69.99, then get Super Mario Odyssey for $59.99, becoming $129.98 total...the vouchers will drop that total to $109.98. I think that much makes sense.

Did I understand right that you need to already have to have the online service to get the vouchers though? If so, I can buy a month or three months first, whatever.

Are there other opportunities to look out for here?
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