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darkphoenix181 12/06/18 12:17:52 PM #1: |
Should comedy be pc? - Results (35 votes)
Offensive jokes are not funny.
8.57% (3 votes)
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Offensives jokes can be funny but should not be said?
2.86% (1 vote)
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Jokes are jokes grow thicker skin.
60% (21 votes)
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The more offensive the joke, the funnier.
17.14% (6 votes)
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I hate polls.
11.43% (4 votes)
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Comedians are also being targetted as not funny and malicious. Kevin Hart, SNL writer, etc. Comedians say to avoid college campuses. Should there be sensitivity training for comedians? Or should they be savage? Edit: 2nd option not supposed to have a question mark ignore it --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 12/06/18 12:20:13 PM #2: |
This question is stupid.
Know your audience. Or if you don't know your audience, plan accordingly or prepare to deal with controversy. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImmatureContent 12/06/18 12:20:42 PM #3: |
Offensive jokes are fine with me. The problem is when those jokes appear to be the comedians actual opinions and not just poking fun at something without regard for social etiquette.
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catboy0_0 12/06/18 12:20:44 PM #4: |
don't ask me
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SSJCAT 12/06/18 12:22:15 PM #5: |
just being offensive isnt funny.
but an offensive joke can be funny. --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 12/06/18 12:23:01 PM #6: |
SSJCAT posted...
just being offensive isnt funny. this --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 12/06/18 12:23:37 PM #7: |
ThyCorndog posted...
SSJCAT posted...just being offensive isnt funny. well yeah. only SJWs and hardcore "christians" don't get that --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 12/06/18 12:25:10 PM #8: |
hollow_shrine posted...
This question is stupid. No audience is a monolithic hivemind. All it takes is one guy to post on the net how offensive you are. Infact, today your audience is the whole country because of the internet. So no, the question is not stupid, your advice is stupid. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 12/06/18 12:26:53 PM #9: |
SSJCAT posted...
just being offensive isnt funny. Keyword, can be. What happens when an attempt was made but it failed? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/06/18 12:27:05 PM #10: |
ImmatureContent posted...
Offensive jokes are fine with me. The problem is when those jokes appear to be the comedians actual opinions and not just poking fun at something without regard for social etiquette. That's still not a problem for a rational person. It doesn't matter if they buy into the bullshit they're spouting. They're comedians...not politicians. They won't be making laws you have to adhere to. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 12/06/18 12:27:16 PM #11: |
hollow_shrine posted...
This question is stupid. This You tailor your routine to the event/audience. Obviously if offensive jokes are the only kind of jokes you tell then that falls on whomever booked the show, but most comedians have more than one type of joke --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJCAT 12/06/18 12:28:14 PM #12: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
SSJCAT posted...just being offensive isnt funny. it wasnt a funny joke --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 12/06/18 12:28:44 PM #13: |
eston posted...
hollow_shrine posted...This question is stupid. Ok. What happens when everyone at your venue is pleased and laughing like crazy, and then someone uploads it to the internet and now you are all over the news because you didn't think of a wider audience? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/06/18 12:29:00 PM #14: |
this is a disingenuous way of phrasing the question
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DevsBro 12/06/18 12:29:02 PM #15: |
Politically incorrect doesn't bother me as much as political does.
Like, if some comedian makes fun of handicapped people, that's obviously not cool. But if their routine is about how abortion is great, I mean hell is it even escapism anymore? --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 12/06/18 12:29:15 PM #17: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
hollow_shrine posted...This question is stupid. This is a huge exaggeration. One guy posting about it after the fact doesn't do shit, and has nothing to do with how an audience receives you during the actual show --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImmatureContent 12/06/18 12:29:59 PM #18: |
SaithSayer posted...
ImmatureContent posted...Offensive jokes are fine with me. The problem is when those jokes appear to be the comedians actual opinions and not just poking fun at something without regard for social etiquette. They have a public platform to voice their opinions. Anyone that wishes to voice their opinions should be held accountable for those opinions. --- NinjaMaster ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 12/06/18 12:30:34 PM #19: |
@averagejoel posted...
this is a disingenuous way of phrasing the question No it isn't. But how about you rephrase it in a way that you like? Show me how it would be made better. Ofc, I knew people would rather just hate on the poll than answer honestly. Smh. That is why I gave the last option. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 12/06/18 12:30:41 PM #20: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
eston posted...hollow_shrine posted...This question is stupid. You tell me. How many careers have been ended by something like that? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/06/18 12:30:47 PM #21: |
DevsBro posted...
Politically incorrect doesn't bother me as much as political does. comedy isn't necessarily supposed to be escapism. you shouldn't impose your own arbitrary standards onto something that has never attempted to fit those standards --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AdviceMan 12/06/18 12:31:25 PM #22: |
The point of comedy is not to uplift the audience. It can do that as a side effect, but that's not the core of comedy. The core of comedy is to be funny. People who think that it is, will consistently be disappointed in comedians.
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darkphoenix181 12/06/18 12:33:26 PM #23: |
eston posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...eston posted...hollow_shrine posted...This question is stupid. That is my point. Saying "tailor to your audience" is bad advice in the age of smart phones. Even if you ban phones, it can still get out. So then it becomes a matter of being pc ir not since the idea of pc is tailoring to the whole country right? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/06/18 12:34:10 PM #24: |
ImmatureContent posted...
SaithSayer posted...ImmatureContent posted...Offensive jokes are fine with me. The problem is when those jokes appear to be the comedians actual opinions and not just poking fun at something without regard for social etiquette. "You should pay for disagreeing with me!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Biscuit 12/06/18 12:36:20 PM #25: |
There are SOME jokes that are just offensive and not funny (see: blatantly racist/hateful punchlines) but thats about it. And I mean BLATANTLY hateful.
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catboy0_0 12/06/18 12:37:28 PM #26: |
CrimsonRage posted...
there's room for every comedy. I agree --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 12/06/18 12:38:01 PM #27: |
I am watching a non PC comedy film and laughing at everything, while it is still legal.
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eston 12/06/18 12:39:24 PM #28: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
That is my point. Saying "tailor to your audience" is bad advice in the age of smart phones. Ok but how many careers have been ended over something like that? That's my point. You're exaggerating the affect this actually has on comedians. If someone uploads video of their set and people get all offended over it, the comedian has an opportunity to defend himself. He doesn't have to tailor his jokes for the whole world, only to the audience in the room. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/06/18 12:40:58 PM #29: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
averagejoel posted...this is a disingenuous way of phrasing the question the question is less "should comedy be PC", more "should people be held accountable for the things they say" and "should comedians be flexible and adapt to the changing tastes of a demographic" 99% of the time, it's not that people are offended by what they say it's that they recognize the comedian as old-fashioned and tired. like a couple years ago Jerry Seinfeld claimed that he wasn't being invited to perform at colleges because people found his standup offensive. do you really think people are being offended by "what's the deal with airplane food" or do you think people are tired of hearing the same shit? comedians relying on racist/sexist/homophobic tropes in their work are like rappers starting verses with "my name is _____ and I'm here to say" Ofc, I knew people would rather just hate on the poll than answer honestly. Smh. I don't hate polls though. I just hate poorly constructed polls with disingenuous questions, like this one --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AdviceMan 12/06/18 12:44:24 PM #30: |
averagejoel posted...
99% of the time, it's not that people are offended by what they say it's that they recognize the comedian as old-fashioned and tired. like a couple years ago Jerry Seinfeld claimed that he wasn't being invited to perform at colleges because people found his standup offensive. do you really think people are being offended by "what's the deal with airplane food" or do you think people are tired of hearing the same shit? What's with you people and just making things up? Like literally disconnected with reality. --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/06/18 12:46:53 PM #31: |
AdviceMan posted...
averagejoel posted...99% of the time, it's not that people are offended by what they say it's that they recognize the comedian as old-fashioned and tired. like a couple years ago Jerry Seinfeld claimed that he wasn't being invited to perform at colleges because people found his standup offensive. do you really think people are being offended by "what's the deal with airplane food" or do you think people are tired of hearing the same shit? take it up with Jerry Seinfeld --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gguirao 12/06/18 12:50:57 PM #32: |
There are some limits. Making light of tragedies is never funny.
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C_Pain 12/06/18 12:52:05 PM #33: |
gguirao posted...
There are some limits. Making light of tragedies is never funny. That's ridiculous. All important comedy comes from tragedy and is a coping mechanism. --- How quaint. Join the Dank Chamber today: https://discord.gg/YwmDmtZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/06/18 12:52:21 PM #34: |
SEINFELD is seen as an offensive comic now? LMAO!
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averagejoel 12/06/18 12:53:15 PM #35: |
SaithSayer posted...
SEINFELD is seen as an offensive comic now? LMAO! he's not. but he thinks he is --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 12/06/18 12:54:08 PM #36: |
averagejoel posted...
DevsBro posted...Politically incorrect doesn't bother me as much as political does. Asking what comedy is supposed to be is the point of the topic. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 12/06/18 12:54:37 PM #37: |
C_Pain posted...
gguirao posted...There are some limits. Making light of tragedies is never funny. It's one type of comedy, and definitely does not encompass all important comedy --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/06/18 12:55:01 PM #38: |
DevsBro posted...
averagejoel posted...DevsBro posted...Politically incorrect doesn't bother me as much as political does. then why did you just assume that it was supposed to be escapism --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/06/18 12:55:29 PM #39: |
gguirao posted...
There are some limits. Making light of tragedies is never funny. Gotta love the "That's not funny!" crowd... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 12/06/18 1:00:44 PM #40: |
Mass Effect 3 has the best perspective on jokes:
"Comedy isn't really about being nice. Sometimes it's a way to air out the ugly things people think." - Joker --- Hmm... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 12/06/18 1:04:33 PM #41: |
averagejoel posted...
DevsBro posted...averagejoel posted...DevsBro posted...Politically incorrect doesn't bother me as much as political does. Because that was my answer to the question. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kolibri X 12/06/18 1:06:12 PM #42: |
averagejoel posted...
Do you really think Jerry only has that one joke about airplane food? Christ you're so wormy and disingenuous. --- Platinum GameFAQs Member ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/06/18 1:07:07 PM #43: |
Kolibri X posted...
averagejoel posted... i know u r but what m i --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/06/18 1:08:08 PM #44: |
This thread makes me wonder if anyone of you actually try to keep up with standup or just check out some here and there.
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AdviceMan 12/06/18 1:09:27 PM #45: |
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/mbkgy8/why-college-campuses-can-be-minefields-for-some-comedians
"VICE News went to Boston to talk to three campus bookers the college comedy gatekeepers who contend that theyre merely reflecting student taste. They say old-school comedians are woefully behind the times and need to acknowledge that certain jokes, particularly those about identity and sexual assault, can potentially cause psychological harm. And its their job, they say, to protect students from it. " Like I said, @averagejoel is simply making things up. He's doing this weird thing that people on both ideological sides do when people say they are experiencing something and say "Oh no, they just don't understand what is happening." Averagejoel is not a comedian. He has no idea what comedians experience. He has no reason to. But because he needs to believe that the comedians are mistaken about a phenomenon that they are experiencing, he asserts that they are not experiencing it. There is a fundamental difference between a joke not being funny and people not laughing, and people saying a joke shouldn't have been said. One is "wow that set was a disaster", and the other is an article in Slate or the Huffington Post. smh --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 12/06/18 1:11:44 PM #46: |
I remember laughing at a Bill Burr cancer joke the day after my dad died of cancer. Was an eye opener
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voldothegr8 12/06/18 1:12:03 PM #47: |
Comedy without offensive material is boring
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darkphoenix181 12/06/18 1:12:31 PM #48: |
averagejoel posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...averagejoel posted...this is a disingenuous way of phrasing the question Is Kevin Hart old fashioned and tired? Instead it was people got offended by something he said. Literally the opposite of your 99% of the time claim. https://www-m.cnn.com/2015/06/10/living/seinfeld-comedy-colleges-feat/ Take comedian Chuck Nice. He told a bit about getting on his knees at the playground and giving his young daughter a dollar for swinging on a pole in a manner that reminded him of a stripper. Seems that your claim is quite wrong. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/06/18 1:14:06 PM #49: |
Doing an offensive set and being banned from a place or just not invited back is a rite of passage for comedians. Almost all of them have at least one or two stories where they've been through this.
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Space_Man 12/06/18 1:18:14 PM #50: |
Comedy is 100% about pacing and flow. If you add something like "sensitivity training" you're taking that flow and fucking it up. A good comedian knows where the line is drawn and will walk you across it like a tightrope. Any outside input will destroy the art.
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