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REMercsChamp
09/24/18 7:15:26 PM
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Let's take a look at Death Stranding

This is our fourth year of receiving a 1-2 minute trailer full of basically nothing

Imagine Kojima spending 4 years of a company's resources for this? He'd bankrupt them

I guess whoever invested in this project doesn't mind Kojima flushing their money down the toilet
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Metro2
09/24/18 7:16:15 PM
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Developers do better when they're not on a leash...right?
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ChainedRedone
09/24/18 7:16:24 PM
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Kojima fanboys don't understand business. As long as they get their flashy Vidya games they're happy
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KiwiTerraRizing
09/24/18 7:17:38 PM
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Death Stranding isnt a game. It will be clips played at e3 for eternity.
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Reiss
09/24/18 7:17:59 PM
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kojima is a talentless hack
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creativerealms
09/24/18 7:19:00 PM
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Lol you really think Konami is better off without Kojima? Kojima might be a hack but Konami is well even worse.
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MC_BatCommander
09/24/18 7:19:11 PM
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4th year? It was announced in 2016, and at the announcement development had not even begun yet. As far as we can tell so far it's in a perfectly normal development cycle. If no concrete release date is provided by next year's E3 then you can start to assume the game might be a load of shit.
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KiwiTerraRizing
09/24/18 7:19:38 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Lol you really think Konami is better off without Kojima? Kojima might be a hack but Konami is well even worse.


Metal Gear Survive is a sin Konami cant live down
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cjsdowg
09/24/18 7:20:24 PM
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All the time and money seemingly sunk into this , I don't see them making their money back. I mean
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creativerealms
09/24/18 7:23:18 PM
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Reiss posted...
kojima is a talentless hack

And Konami is a company that fired all it's talent and talentless hacks and has nothing left but pachinco. How are they better off without him?
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spudger
09/24/18 7:23:35 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Death Stranding isnt a game. It will be clips played at e3 for eternity.

thats his secret
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Reiss
09/24/18 7:23:58 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Reiss posted...
kojima is a talentless hack

And Konami is a company that fired all it's talent and talentless hacks and has nothing left but pachinco. How are they better off without him?

pachinko makes $$$$
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Irony
09/24/18 7:25:17 PM
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Survive sold so poorly that Konami omitted it from their financial report
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creativerealms
09/24/18 7:25:22 PM
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Reiss posted...
creativerealms posted...
Reiss posted...
kojima is a talentless hack

And Konami is a company that fired all it's talent and talentless hacks and has nothing left but pachinco. How are they better off without him?

pachinko makes $$$$

That makes things worse.
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cjsdowg
09/24/18 7:26:13 PM
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Did Kojima have help writing MGS?
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Tryhaptaward
09/24/18 7:28:50 PM
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Meanwhile KH3
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Tryhaptaward
09/24/18 7:29:41 PM
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FF7
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TheBiggerWiggle
09/24/18 7:36:21 PM
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Kojima is a hack.
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Kitt
09/24/18 7:44:15 PM
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I like Kojima but the more I see of this game with very little explanation, the more I lose interest. What genre would this even fall under?
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Reiss
09/24/18 7:51:30 PM
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Kitt posted...
What genre would this even fall under?

trash
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gikos
09/24/18 7:57:53 PM
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why are people more upset with Kojima than konami
i mean this is the company that fired all there best devs
and how they treat there employee's
and going after there former employee's health insurance

besides are you guys new to Kojima not reveling much about his games
he has been doing this crap for a long time
i still love MGS2 even tho he trolled me
well played Kojima
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Smashingpmkns
09/24/18 8:00:18 PM
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Lol Konami literally stopped all production of their games. Popular, loved IPs. Kojima should have bled them more. And if a company is willing to go all in on an artist's work theres nothing wrong with that. Even when Kojima disappoints whatever the outcome is ends up being better than 80% of the shit that gets released anyways.
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ultimate reaver
09/24/18 8:02:14 PM
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gikos posted...
why are people more upset with Kojima than konami
i mean this is the company that fired all there best devs
and how they treat there employee's
and going after there former employee's health insurance

besides are you guys new to Kojima not reveling much about his games
he has been doing this crap for a long time
i still love MGS2 even tho he trolled me
well played Kojima


People didnt like mgsv to that retroactively makes all kojipro games bad
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Darmik
09/24/18 8:02:22 PM
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Konami is weird because Super Bomberman R is a pretty solid Bomberman game with ridiculous post-game support that's still going on today. The roster is ridiculous at this point.

Yet as far as I know that's it. Metal Gear Survive came and went with a whimper.

Konami could just re-release their older games and they'd make bank but they don't.
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gikos
09/24/18 8:08:14 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
gikos posted...
why are people more upset with Kojima than konami
i mean this is the company that fired all there best devs
and how they treat there employee's
and going after there former employee's health insurance

besides are you guys new to Kojima not reveling much about his games
he has been doing this crap for a long time
i still love MGS2 even tho he trolled me
well played Kojima


People didnt like mgsv to that retroactively makes all kojipro games bad

what i find funny in this weird thinking is mgsv is a good game but feels incomplete
so why blame kojima
he just wanted to polish up the game more i mean the gameplay was the best in the MGS series and the ports was great and not a lot of major bugs
tho there was that quite bug but still you can feel how much detail and work was going in to this game and then konami went full jerk mode and pulled the plug
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MarqueeSeries
09/24/18 8:12:42 PM
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Yeah fuck Kojima for trying to see an artistic vision through to completion
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ViewtifulGrave
09/24/18 8:16:57 PM
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Tryhaptaward posted...
Meanwhile KH3

Has had multiple playable demos at cons and has a set release.
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cjsdowg
09/24/18 8:46:55 PM
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gikos posted...
why are people more upset with Kojima than konami
i mean this is the company that fired all there best devs
and how they treat there employee's
and going after there former employee's health insurance

besides are you guys new to Kojima not reveling much about his games
he has been doing this crap for a long time
i still love MGS2 even tho he trolled me
well played Kojima


Kojima treated David Hayter like konami is treating him now. So at least for me, turn about is fair play.
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DarthAragorn
09/24/18 8:55:11 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
gikos posted...
why are people more upset with Kojima than konami
i mean this is the company that fired all there best devs
and how they treat there employee's
and going after there former employee's health insurance

besides are you guys new to Kojima not reveling much about his games
he has been doing this crap for a long time
i still love MGS2 even tho he trolled me
well played Kojima


Kojima treated David Hayter like konami is treating him now. So at least for me, turn about is fair play.

That's a very good point

David Hayter wasn't Hollywood enough so fuck him
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Darmik
09/24/18 8:55:45 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Tryhaptaward posted...
Meanwhile KH3

Has had multiple playable demos at cons and has a set release.


It was also announced three years before Death Stranding to be fair.
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YukihoHagiwara
09/26/18 12:26:06 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Did Kojima have help writing MGS?

early on in the series he did. I think around 4 the others left/got less significant input into the story. I may be wrong on that though I know for sure there were co writers.

also, on survive, I feel like konami made a logical choice there. peace walker had multiplayer and people were disappointed to find out V wouldn't have it despite many elements from Peace Walker being used in it. the problem is they went about it terribly.
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SSJCAT
09/26/18 12:29:29 PM
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looks cool to me \_()_/
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X-Pac_Heat
09/26/18 12:48:55 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Did Kojima have help writing MGS?


The first 3 he had writing partners
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Smashingpmkns
09/26/18 2:17:33 PM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Did Kojima have help writing MGS?

early on in the series he did. I think around 4 the others left/got less significant input into the story. I may be wrong on that though I know for sure there were co writers.

also, on survive, I feel like konami made a logical choice there. peace walker had multiplayer and people were disappointed to find out V wouldn't have it despite many elements from Peace Walker being used in it. the problem is they went about it terribly.


V had two different types of multiplayer though.
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YukihoHagiwara
09/26/18 2:34:21 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
YukihoHagiwara posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Did Kojima have help writing MGS?

early on in the series he did. I think around 4 the others left/got less significant input into the story. I may be wrong on that though I know for sure there were co writers.

also, on survive, I feel like konami made a logical choice there. peace walker had multiplayer and people were disappointed to find out V wouldn't have it despite many elements from Peace Walker being used in it. the problem is they went about it terribly.


V had two different types of multiplayer though.

My bad, probably should've specified story co-op.
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Bloodmoon77
09/26/18 2:42:57 PM
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M_Live posted...
The fact that the big E3 trailer was just like 25 minutes of a guy walking up a mountain actually made me more hype for the game tbh

Really? That's what killed me interest all together honestly.
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DoGCyN
09/26/18 2:44:58 PM
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Regardless of what you think about Kojima, you should hate Konami entirely because of how they treat their employees.
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Kaiganeer
09/26/18 2:46:38 PM
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kojima is stringing sony along as long as he can so that he can keep hanging out with actors and movie directors while pretending to develop a game
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Alpha218
09/26/18 2:53:04 PM
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Idk how people can shit on Kojima for teasing a game for so long when it feels like half of the non-annual AAA titles do the same thing
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cjsdowg
09/27/18 1:35:06 AM
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YukihoHagiwara posted...

early on in the series he did. I think around 4 the others left/got less significant input into the story. I may be wrong on that though I know for sure there were co writers.


That seems about right.. to me that is where everything when to shit. I mean every cool thing that happen was just written off as Nanobots
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cjsdowg
09/27/18 1:35:51 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Idk how people can s*** on Kojima for teasing a game for so long when it feels like half of the non-annual AAA titles do the same thing


Most times we not something about the game more then the fact that there is walking.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/27/18 1:36:12 AM
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Reminder that the final version of MGSV is still one of the most expensive video games ever made

Maybe if he spent less resources on authentic rock climbing and horse pooping we'd have a better game
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