Board 8 > Persona Q2 reveal trailer!

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Coming out sooner than I expected for a game that had nothing whatsoever shown in the year since it was announced. Also HYPE at that ending

3ds lol
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is that the p3portable female protag at the end?

also wasn't the first one of these really bad
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pxlated posted...

is that the p3portable female protag at the end?

also wasn't the first one of these really bad

Yes and no PQ was good stuff!

The first one was underrated. I had a good time anyway
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all i remember is basically everyone i talked to said if you weren't interested in fan service, it wasn't good. the gameplay was not as good as either series that it came from

hopefully they do a better job this time because i love EO and i enjoy persona (persona 2 best persona, remakes when)
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Portable Girl! About time she got to appear in a crossover spinoff.

Or a GameFAQs contest...
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I mean a lot of PQ is fanservice with characters interacting that you dont get in the main games. I thought the gameplay was pretty fun even if some parts were pretty frustrating too. This could very well be the last 3DS game we see in NA. 2019 for us will have P3D, P5D, maybe the PS4 P4D and PQ2.

PQ was one of the worst offenders out of all the spinoffs of reducing every character to their most basic and marketable character trait and making them terrible.
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I just don't know what to say if you can't enjoy the entire cast making fun of P3 Guy's inability to get his bangs out of his eyes
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femc and P5 characters make this attractive but nothing else about the game is interesting
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I am looking forward to new interactions with the characters. Yusuke would join Kanji, Yosuke and Junpei as part of the idiot squad. Makoto, Chie and Akihiko can bond over martial arts. Teddie will have a perv bro in Morgana. Naoto may have issues with the P5 cast parading around as Phantom Thieves. Theres lot of potential fun interactions to look forward to. P3P Female MC opens up chances for greatness too by talking to her male self.

pxlated posted...

all i remember is basically everyone i talked to said if you weren't interested in fan service, it wasn't good. the gameplay was not as good as either series that it came from

it's a TERRIBLE etrian odyssey game. not really a huge fan of persona so I can't speak to that.

but yeah it has nothing that makes EO great. they basically just made it a first person dungeon crawler where you draw the map. that's all persona Q has in common with EO.
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MariaTaylor posted...

it's a TERRIBLE etrian odyssey game. not really a huge fan of persona so I can't speak to that.

but yeah it has nothing that makes EO great. they basically just made it a first person dungeon crawler where you draw the map. that's all persona Q has in common with EO.

Would you mind elaborating on this a bit? I haven't had much luck with this first person dungeon genre since I dropped PQ in the third dungeon and EO1 in the second. To that limited experience they felt pretty similar despite PQ being way more easy and streamlined, which I hear the later EO games also are compared to EO1.
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appeal of the etrian odssey series

create your own characters from scratch
complex skill system which allows you to customize builds
high build diversity which can be fairly unforgiving in the earlier titles if you mess up a character, but in general allows for a ton of different strategies to approach the same content
incredible party synergy well above almost any other RPG I can think of
the above two points combine in a great way which make it so that you have to actually construct a party out of builds that you also fully customize, and the party composition itself is an added layer of strategy

this marriage of micro and macro strategy, and lack of randomized advancement elements, make it so

that you are fully given the ability to design your own team --
the there are many different viable teams --
any spot on the roster can be tweaked in ways that make them feel unique to your personal design preference --
changing one person or even one major skill in your entire party line up can change the entire strength or playstyle of the composition --
the list goes on and on with this point, to the extent that I needed to separate it into its own entire list instead of just one entry

status effects are viable
having attackers that fill different roles actually matters, you'll have a much harder time if you create a team that is designed to win every encounter by auto attacking
tanks are viable and can be damn near essential,
but because of the free design of the game you can also build comps that don't rely on a tank

there's probably a lot more that I'm missing just off the top of my head, but the games are basically unique and excel in a lot of categories that most other RPGs can't even hope to compete.

anyway, long story short, persona Q contains NONE OF THE ELEMENTS FEATURED ON THE ABOVE LIST
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EO is about party customization/experimentation, world building through exploration instead of direct interaction with npcs, and challenging turn based battles that require strategy/a coherent party, along with brutal super bosses that create tension as you explore because youre not going to be able to beat them right away and they move through the dungeons as you do.

I've never played the first one, but the later games are all excellent.

Also, drawing maps is addicting as hell
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(and that's not to say Persona Q is a bad game, I'm just saying it's so clearly not a good Etrian Odyssey title)
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MariaTaylor posted...

high build diversity which can be fairly unforgiving in the earlier titles if you mess up a character

Yeah this was a big part of why I dropped EO1. I generally dislike looking stuff up for games I'm playing for the first time, but in EO1 it felt like the only way to find out a skill was utter garbage was to skill in to it and find out the hard way... which I would be fine with if there was any way to respec, but to the point I got I saw no sign of such a feature. (I've since looked it up and found you can respec for a 10 level loss which feels pretty brutal but at least it's an option I guess.)
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Xiahou Shake posted...

MariaTaylor posted...

high build diversity which can be fairly unforgiving in the earlier titles if you mess up a character

Yeah this was a big part of why I dropped EO1. I generally dislike looking stuff up for games I'm playing for the first time, but in EO1 it felt like the only way to find out a skill was utter garbage was to skill in to it and find out the hard way... which I would be fine with if there was any way to respec, but to the point I got I saw no sign of such a feature. (I've since looked it up and found you can respec for a 10 level loss which feels pretty brutal but at least it's an option I guess.)

respec has always been an option in the games, but they toned down the punishment with each subsequent title. the most recent game is basically less than a slap on the wrist to change up your build.

I'm not really in love with that conceptually because it means you can tune your party for each specific stratum or boss without losing much progress. I think the game should have done more to reward a player that can construct a solid party that does well against a variety of environments and encounters.

still, EO5 is probably the best entry in the series since EO 1/2. I was actually surprised at how much I liked it because of how different the core system and rule set are for making builds and such. they went probably further away from the standard formula than any previous game. but they did A LOT to make the exploration and difficulty feel more similar to previous titles, and coming from someone that hated how dumb and simple EO4 was, this was a refreshing return to what the series should be about.
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I recall PQ having useful status effects. Poison and Sleep are good against random mobs and the Binds can be helpful. Paralyze and Curse have their uses. Panic is clearly the best status effect in the game though. Its honestly probably too good and I remember it being incredibly useful against bosses and FOEs.

swordz9 posted...

I recall PQ having useful status effects. Poison and Sleep are good against random mobs and the Binds can be helpful. Paralyze and Curse have their uses. Panic is clearly the best status effect in the game though. Its honestly probably too good and I remember it being incredibly useful against bosses and FOEs.

in order for the phrase 'status effects are viable' to have significance, the game has to actually have builds in the first place. persona Q doesn't have them. so it's not like you can 'build' a character to use status effects and be rewarded for it. you just either equip a persona that has them, or you don't.
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If I can stray from the subject a little- what's the opinion of EO fans on the remakes? Specifically, the idea of a more involved plot greatly appeals to me, but I've seen a few complaints that adding specific characters for that plot to happen to 'ruins the whole point' of an Etrian game.

As I understand it, there is an option to play without the story and treat it more as a straight remake of the original, but... I'd rather not do that unless the story mode really is notably worse than the original.
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never played them myself since I have almost 0 interest in story in video games. since I own all the originals, not really any reason for me to buy the same exact game again.

(on that note yeah, from what I understand, it's just the same game but with the option of playing a story mode for people that wanted a traditional story)
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pq was fun enough, so I'll probably check this out

hope they nerf naoto

HELL YEAH FEMC

They remembered
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Wheres akechi
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GANON1025 posted...

Wheres akechi

Hes unfortunately in there. Dont worry

Some details

http://www.siliconera.com/2018/08/06/persona-q2-details-its-story-on-the-phantom-thieves-going-into-a-world-of-movies/

Seems like FeMC has her own little separate story? Shes not included in the group shots the 3 casts have. I hope she has more than than though.

I wonder how many more voices will change for the English dub.