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robellr13 03/21/18 12:34:55 AM #1:	Why do they attack innocent people? It makes sense they attack people that were involved with them. These kids wind up in a haunted house that they dont know its haunted, and they get tormented? Also, if demons exists then god exists. Why doesnt praying to god not work in these movies? Why cant he stop the demons? --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:898195574] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote>Why do they attack innocent people? It makes sense they attack people that were involved with them. These kids wind up in a haunted house that they dont know its haunted, and they get tormented? Also, if demons exists then god exists. Why doesnt praying to god not work in these movies? Why cant he stop the demons?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 03/21/18 12:45:06 AM #2:	these stories are inherently nonsense when a person dies under extreme trauma in a horrible way they become a powerful ghost what is more traumatic and horrifying that ghost killing you? you should become the new ghost boss by the rule --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:898196011] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote>these stories are inherently nonsense when a person dies under extreme trauma in a horrible way they become a powerful ghost what is more traumatic and horrifying that ghost killing you? you should become the new ghost boss by the rule</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 03/21/18 12:48:18 AM #3:	demons tend to be malevolent, and attack anyone, regardless of how innocent they might be. and just because there are demons, that doesn't necessarily suggest a god, but even if there is, a horror movie is more successful when there's no divine intervention helping the characters --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:898196132] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote>demons tend to be malevolent, and attack anyone, regardless of how innocent they might be. and just because there are demons, that doesn't necessarily suggest a god, but even if there is, a horror movie is more successful when there's no divine intervention helping the characters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
robellr13 03/21/18 12:48:45 AM #4:	darkphoenix181 posted... these stories are inherently nonsense when a person dies under extreme trauma in a horrible way they become a powerful ghost what is more traumatic and horrifying that ghost killing you? you should become the new ghost boss by the rule Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? And youre so right. Why cant they become a ghost too? --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:898196151] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>these stories are inherently nonsense when a person dies under extreme trauma in a horrible way they become a powerful ghost what is more traumatic and horrifying that ghost killing you? you should become the new ghost boss by the rule</quote> Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? And youre so right. Why cant they become a ghost too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
robellr13 03/21/18 12:49:29 AM #5:	boxington posted... demons tend to be malevolent, and attack anyone, regardless of how innocent they might be. and just because there are demons, that doesn't necessarily suggest a god, but even if there is, a horror movie is more successful when there's no divine intervention helping the characters Arent demons fallen angels? If there is a supernatural evil then there should be a supernatural good. --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:898196184] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>demons tend to be malevolent, and attack anyone, regardless of how innocent they might be. and just because there are demons, that doesn't necessarily suggest a god, but even if there is, a horror movie is more successful when there's no divine intervention helping the characters</quote> Arent demons fallen angels? If there is a supernatural evil then there should be a supernatural good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 03/21/18 12:52:29 AM #6:	those demon movies never have God. he's just some asshole who doesn't pay attention or sucks and can't do anything. it never really makes all the much sense unless the nature of religion is way different than we are taught. I saw a movie once where a guy rushed into a demon summoning ritual full of new found faith and he was basically like a mortal with level 10 True Faith in the world of darkness rpg. he should have smited the demon and all the summoners. but instead the demon slaughters him. <cite>Zikten posted [p:898196291] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote>those demon movies never have God. he's just some asshole who doesn't pay attention or sucks and can't do anything. it never really makes all the much sense unless the nature of religion is way different than we are taught. I saw a movie once where a guy rushed into a demon summoning ritual full of new found faith and he was basically like a mortal with level 10 True Faith in the world of darkness rpg. he should have smited the demon and all the summoners. but instead the demon slaughters him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 03/21/18 12:53:31 AM #7:	idk, but I think different fictions here different origins for demons. and in some stories, there's either no god, or that god abandoned humanity --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:898196320] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote>idk, but I think different fictions here different origins for demons. and in some stories, there's either no god, or that god abandoned humanity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 03/21/18 12:59:51 AM #8:	robellr13 posted... Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? And youre so right. Why cant they become a ghost too? The logic is usually they become a lost soul who feeds into the power of the ghost who killed them. But the problem is what made the original ghost powerful was the terrible way they died or the evil life they had or something. The demons might not come from for instance Christianity. By that I mean you can take for instance ancient Babylonian myth where demons actively killed people and a Goddess ate babies and it was just considered normal. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:898196583] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote> Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? And youre so right. Why cant they become a ghost too?</quote> The logic is usually they become a lost soul who feeds into the power of the ghost who killed them. But the problem is what made the original ghost powerful was the terrible way they died or the evil life they had or something. The demons might not come from for instance Christianity. By that I mean you can take for instance ancient Babylonian myth where demons actively killed people and a Goddess ate babies and it was just considered normal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
robellr13 03/21/18 1:04:58 AM #9:	darkphoenix181 posted... robellr13 posted... Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? And youre so right. Why cant they become a ghost too? The logic is usually they become a lost soul who feeds into the power of the ghost who killed them. But the problem is what made the original ghost powerful was the terrible way they died or the evil life they had or something. The demons might not come from for instance Christianity. By that I mean you can take for instance ancient Babylonian myth where demons actively killed people and a Goddess ate babies and it was just considered normal. Its probably because they are easy souls to take over I guess? Like the little girl from Annabelle wasnt evil and ~~I think car deaths is a common thing~~ --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:898196774] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote> Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? And youre so right. Why cant they become a ghost too?</quote> The logic is usually they become a lost soul who feeds into the power of the ghost who killed them. But the problem is what made the original ghost powerful was the terrible way they died or the evil life they had or something. The demons might not come from for instance Christianity. By that I mean you can take for instance ancient Babylonian myth where demons actively killed people and a Goddess ate babies and it was just considered normal.</quote> Its probably because they are easy souls to take over I guess? Like the little girl from Annabelle wasnt evil and I think car deaths is a common thing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 03/21/18 1:05:34 AM #10:	robellr13 posted... Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? Maybe they aren't evil, maybe they're just pissed at their friends for letting them die. --- Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhauer. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:898196796] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote> Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? </quote> Maybe they aren't evil, maybe they're just pissed at their friends for letting them die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
robellr13 03/21/18 1:12:51 AM #11:	008Zulu posted... robellr13 posted... Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? Maybe they aren't evil, maybe they're just pissed at their friends for letting them die. And theyll attack their friends and anyone associated with them ? --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:898197050] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote> Okay. So they are a ghost right? Why would they be evil? </quote> Maybe they aren't evil, maybe they're just pissed at their friends for letting them die.</quote> And theyll attack their friends and anyone associated with them ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 03/21/18 1:26:48 AM #12:	I wouldn't put too much thought into it. The people who make the movies sure don't. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:898197478] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't put too much thought into it. The people who make the movies sure don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 03/21/18 1:46:20 AM #14:	robellr13 posted... Why do they attack innocent people? It makes sense they attack people that were involved with them. In most lore, demon's are malice incarnate. They wish to tempt, harm, or kill any innocents they can find. robellr13 posted... These kids wind up in a haunted house that they dont know its haunted, and they get tormented? Ghosts and demons are generally two different things. Not always, though; I was raised Jehovah's Witness and they actually taught that there was no such thing as ghosts, but any paranormal activity is just Demons in human guise. It was fucking weird. robellr13 posted... Also, if demons exists then god exists. No, that's not true. Though we commonly associate the word 'demon' with Christianity, it can be used to describe any maliciously evil entity from pretty much any pantheon. Also, there are some philosophies that argue that the Bible is false but some of the creatures and events in it exist. robellr13 posted... Why doesnt praying to god not work in these movies? Why cant he stop the demons? Depends entirely on your belief system. Some systems don't have an interventionalist God. Even more, some actually require some very intricate knowledge, rituals, or expertise, such as with Catholic priests committing exorcisms (though, IIRC, even the Catholic church now disavows exorcism). <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:898198068] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote>Why do they attack innocent people? It makes sense they attack people that were involved with them. </quote> In most lore, demon's are malice incarnate. They wish to tempt, harm, or kill any innocents they can find. <cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote> These kids wind up in a haunted house that they dont know its haunted, and they get tormented?</quote> Ghosts and demons are generally two different things. Not always, though; I was raised Jehovah's Witness and they actually taught that there was no such thing as ghosts, but any paranormal activity is just Demons in human guise. It was fucking weird. <cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote>Also, if demons exists then god exists.</quote> No, that's not true. Though we commonly associate the word 'demon' with Christianity, it can be used to describe any maliciously evil entity from pretty much any pantheon. Also, there are some philosophies that argue that the Bible is false but some of the creatures and events in it exist. <cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote>Why doesnt praying to god not work in these movies? Why cant he stop the demons?</quote> Depends entirely on your belief system. Some systems don't have an interventionalist God. Even more, some actually require some very intricate knowledge, rituals, or expertise, such as with Catholic priests committing exorcisms (though, IIRC, even the Catholic church now disavows exorcism).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
robellr13 03/21/18 2:18:37 AM #15:	Dash_Harber posted... robellr13 posted... Why do they attack innocent people? It makes sense they attack people that were involved with them. In most lore, demon's are malice incarnate. They wish to tempt, harm, or kill any innocents they can find. robellr13 posted... These kids wind up in a haunted house that they dont know its haunted, and they get tormented? Ghosts and demons are generally two different things. Not always, though; I was raised Jehovah's Witness and they actually taught that there was no such thing as ghosts, but any paranormal activity is just Demons in human guise. It was fucking weird. robellr13 posted... Also, if demons exists then god exists. No, that's not true. Though we commonly associate the word 'demon' with Christianity, it can be used to describe any maliciously evil entity from pretty much any pantheon. Also, there are some philosophies that argue that the Bible is false but some of the creatures and events in it exist. robellr13 posted... Why doesnt praying to god not work in these movies? Why cant he stop the demons? Depends entirely on your belief system. Some systems don't have an interventionalist God. Even more, some actually require some very intricate knowledge, rituals, or expertise, such as with Catholic priests committing exorcisms (though, IIRC, even the Catholic church now disavows exorcism). This guy nailed it lol --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:898198987] in Okay so th... [t:76436838]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote>Why do they attack innocent people? It makes sense they attack people that were involved with them. </quote> In most lore, demon's are malice incarnate. They wish to tempt, harm, or kill any innocents they can find. <cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote> These kids wind up in a haunted house that they dont know its haunted, and they get tormented?</quote> Ghosts and demons are generally two different things. Not always, though; I was raised Jehovah's Witness and they actually taught that there was no such thing as ghosts, but any paranormal activity is just Demons in human guise. It was fucking weird. <cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote>Also, if demons exists then god exists.</quote> No, that's not true. Though we commonly associate the word 'demon' with Christianity, it can be used to describe any maliciously evil entity from pretty much any pantheon. Also, there are some philosophies that argue that the Bible is false but some of the creatures and events in it exist. <cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote>Why doesnt praying to god not work in these movies? Why cant he stop the demons?</quote> Depends entirely on your belief system. Some systems don't have an interventionalist God. Even more, some actually require some very intricate knowledge, rituals, or expertise, such as with Catholic priests committing exorcisms (though, IIRC, even the Catholic church now disavows exorcism).</quote> This guy nailed it lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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