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Giant_Aspirin
12/04/17 1:44:05 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/04/trump-formally-endorses-roy-moores-campaign.html

i sincerely think this is a distraction from

1) the tax bill
2) Flynn's testimony

if you look at the pattern of news cycles since ol' Trumpy got elected, this is common. something actually awful happens and then almost immediately after, Trump says or tweets something completely ridiculous, which completely absorbs the national news cycles.
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 1:51:58 PM
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The tax bill is a great thing, and Flynn's testimony has been shown to be completely blown out of the water and false facts were reported, leading to the suspension of the journalist. Why would he want to distract from that?
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Giant_Aspirin
12/04/17 1:53:57 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
The tax bill is a great thing,


that's subjective, but it was passed at like 2 AM on a Saturday morning when most of the country was asleep.

KazumaKiryu posted...
Flynn's testimony has been shown to be completely blown out of the water


keep telling yourself that
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Caution999
12/04/17 1:54:36 PM
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Sad!
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UnholyMudcrab
12/04/17 1:56:24 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
that's subjective, but it was passed at like 2 AM on a Saturday morning when most of the country was asleep.

After having been presented to the senators so recently that none of them could possibly have read it, don't forget that part.
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Giant_Aspirin
12/04/17 1:56:58 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
that's subjective, but it was passed at like 2 AM on a Saturday morning when most of the country was asleep.

After having been presented to the senators so recently that none of them could possibly have read it, don't forget that part.


with illegible, hand written scribbles in the margins that were supposed to be the actual contents of the bill.
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metralo
12/04/17 1:57:11 PM
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for all this lunacy about a hidden sex slavery ring in pizza parlors run by hillary and soros themselves, the GOP sure loves supporting real, actual pedophiles.
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 2:10:53 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
that's subjective, but it was passed at like 2 AM on a Saturday morning when most of the country was asleep.


You can blame the democrats who kept making them vote on amendments to it for it being so late.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/04/17 2:12:52 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Sad!

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cjsdowg
12/04/17 2:13:49 PM
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Even Republican should not be defending this tax bill. They put hand written stuff in there at the last min, that literally people could not read. How can you defend that shit.
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creativerealms
12/04/17 2:13:52 PM
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I blame Doug Jones. Trump was leaving Roy Moore alone until Jones used a clip from Trump's daughter saying that people who pray on children are the worst.
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Giant_Aspirin
12/04/17 2:14:48 PM
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and apparently the voters in Alabama have the memory of a gnat because they just dont care that Moore is a pedo anymore
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 2:15:30 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Even Republican should not be defending this tax bill. They put hand written stuff in there at the last min, that literally people could not read. How can you defend that shit.


I blame the biased news sources that convince people that literally every thing a Republican does is evil and will make you lose your home. It's a very good thing that we're getting it passed. It will help the middle class immensely. Just stop falling for the bullshit.
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hockeybub89
12/04/17 2:16:22 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Even Republican should not be defending this tax bill. They put hand written stuff in there at the last min, that literally people could not read. How can you defend that shit.


I blame the biased news sources that convince people that literally every thing a Republican does is evil and will make you lose your home. It's a very good thing that we're getting it passed. It will help the middle class immensely. Just stop falling for the bullshit.

Getting what passed? Did you read the bill? The senators sure didn't.
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metralo
12/04/17 2:16:24 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
stop falling for the bullshit.

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creativerealms
12/04/17 2:17:00 PM
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Well Doug Jones has a slight lead right now but white Evangelicals, well nothing will stop them from voting for Moore. Everyone who is agianst him should vote or Roy Moore will win.
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Questionmarktarius
12/04/17 2:18:26 PM
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The tax bill already passed the senate. What's the point?
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creativerealms
12/04/17 2:18:34 PM
#18:


KazumaKiryu posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Even Republican should not be defending this tax bill. They put hand written stuff in there at the last min, that literally people could not read. How can you defend that shit.


I blame the biased news sources that convince people that literally every thing a Republican does is evil and will make you lose your home. It's a very good thing that we're getting it passed. It will help the middle class immensely. Just stop falling for the bullshit.

I bet you believe all the biased news sources when they say everything the democrats do is evil and want to take away your guns and money.
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Heineken14
12/04/17 2:18:35 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
It will help the middle class immensely.


Hah.
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The Great Muta 22
12/04/17 2:19:22 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
I blame the biased news sources that convince people that literally every thing a Republican does is evil and will make you lose your home. It's a very good thing that we're getting it passed. It will help the middle class immensely. Just stop falling for the bullshit.


What makes it good? Give me actual facts instead of repeating talking points from biased media that you support
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Giant_Aspirin
12/04/17 2:19:33 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
It will help the middle class immensely.


the CBO's own report states otherwise.
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 2:20:00 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Even Republican should not be defending this tax bill. They put hand written stuff in there at the last min, that literally people could not read. How can you defend that shit.


I blame the biased news sources that convince people that literally every thing a Republican does is evil and will make you lose your home. It's a very good thing that we're getting it passed. It will help the middle class immensely. Just stop falling for the bullshit.

Getting what passed? Did you read the bill? The senators sure didn't.


If they didn't read it, then how was it that they kept proposing amendments? Why was Tim Kaine up there saying that he wants the middle class cuts to be permanent and that the corporate rate should be set at 25% instead of 20%? How would that be happening if he didn't read it?

Again, you're fed constant lies.
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Giant_Aspirin
12/04/17 2:20:13 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The tax bill already passed the senate. What's the point?


it isn't law yet. a finalized version that's basically a combination of the House and Senate bills needs to be created and then voted upon, I believe.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/04/17 2:20:51 PM
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CableZL
12/04/17 2:20:56 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
The tax bill already passed the senate. What's the point?


it isn't law yet. a finalized version that's basically a combination of the House and Senate bills needs to be created and then voted upon, I believe.


Correct. They bill needs to be reconciled.
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cjsdowg
12/04/17 2:20:59 PM
#26:


KazumaKiryu posted...


I blame the biased news sources that convince people that literally every thing a Republican does is evil and will make you lose your home. It's a very good thing that we're getting it passed. It will help the middle class immensely. Just stop falling for the bulls***.


Dude/dudess, they add in stuff that can not be read. That is not bull that is fact.
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Giant_Aspirin
12/04/17 2:21:25 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Please stop responding to Kazuma


im starting to think he's the same as DE, as in pretending to be a red hatter and saying the most outlandish stuff possible in an effort to make them look bad.
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butthole666
12/04/17 2:22:06 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
The tax bill is a great thing, and Flynn's testimony has been shown to be completely blown out of the water and false facts were reported, leading to the suspension of the journalist. Why would he want to distract from that?

Yes I too love tax legislation being used to help only the rich and leverage abortion laws
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 2:22:09 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Please stop responding to Kazuma


im starting to think he's the same as DE, as in pretending to be a red hatter and saying the most outlandish stuff possible in an effort to make them look bad.


Nothing I've said has been outlandish. This is just your tactic to discredit me.
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metralo
12/04/17 2:22:22 PM
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outlandish? ive heard far worse from red hatters in person.
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butthole666
12/04/17 2:23:06 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
that's subjective, but it was passed at like 2 AM on a Saturday morning when most of the country was asleep.

After having been presented to the senators so recently that none of them could possibly have read it, don't forget that part.

It's mind blowing to me that there are no regulations in place to prevent this
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Heineken14
12/04/17 2:24:25 PM
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75AalU3
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 2:24:40 PM
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butthole666 posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
that's subjective, but it was passed at like 2 AM on a Saturday morning when most of the country was asleep.

After having been presented to the senators so recently that none of them could possibly have read it, don't forget that part.

It's mind blowing to me that there are no regulations in place to prevent this


You didn't mind it when they did it with Obamacare...
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NeoShadowhen
12/04/17 2:26:04 PM
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Oh lord.

"nearly a half-dozen allegations"

Just say 5. I assume you mean 5? Nearly a half dozen... Kiss my ass CNBC.
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CableZL
12/04/17 2:26:05 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
You didn't mind it when they did it with Obamacare...


They didn't do that with Obamacare. There were lots of hearings and debates on the text of the ACA.
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The Great Muta 22
12/04/17 2:26:13 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
You didn't mind it when they did it with Obamacare...


But I assume you did, correct? So why are you fine with it this time?
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Heineken14
12/04/17 2:26:40 PM
#37:


KazumaKiryu posted...
butthole666 posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
that's subjective, but it was passed at like 2 AM on a Saturday morning when most of the country was asleep.

After having been presented to the senators so recently that none of them could possibly have read it, don't forget that part.

It's mind blowing to me that there are no regulations in place to prevent this


You didn't mind it when they did it with Obamacare...


A. This isn't comparable to how the ACA vote happened, this is much worse.
B. You guys SUPER cared about that. How many times did the right try to repeal it?
C. That was in order to give millions of people access to health care, this is to give rich people tax breaks on private jets.
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 2:27:38 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
You didn't mind it when they did it with Obamacare...


But I assume you did, correct? So why are you fine with it this time?


Obamacare was a huge government overreach that has crippled our healthcare system. This bill is tax reform. Not quite in the same ballpark.
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butthole666
12/04/17 2:28:06 PM
#39:


KazumaKiryu posted...
butthole666 posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
that's subjective, but it was passed at like 2 AM on a Saturday morning when most of the country was asleep.

After having been presented to the senators so recently that none of them could possibly have read it, don't forget that part.

It's mind blowing to me that there are no regulations in place to prevent this


You didn't mind it when they did it with Obamacare...

1) Why are you assuming that?
2) They didn't do it with the ACA.
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The Great Muta 22
12/04/17 2:28:39 PM
#40:


KazumaKiryu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
You didn't mind it when they did it with Obamacare...


But I assume you did, correct? So why are you fine with it this time?


Obamacare was a huge government overreach that has crippled our healthcare system. This bill is tax reform. Not quite in the same ballpark.


But that has nothing to do with Senators not reading the actual bill before agreeing to it. So if that was a bad thing for the ACA, why is it fine now?

You can admit it's because of partisanship, come on
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Prestoff
12/04/17 2:28:53 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
75AalU3


lol
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butthole666
12/04/17 2:28:55 PM
#42:


KazumaKiryu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
You didn't mind it when they did it with Obamacare...


But I assume you did, correct? So why are you fine with it this time?


Obamacare was a huge government overreach that has crippled our healthcare system. This bill is tax reform. Not quite in the same ballpark.

Explain exactly how and provide detailed statistics and evidence.
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NeoShadowhen
12/04/17 2:30:36 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
75AalU3


Was he on the fence or something?

What a politician.
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 2:32:59 PM
#44:


butthole666 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
You didn't mind it when they did it with Obamacare...


But I assume you did, correct? So why are you fine with it this time?


Obamacare was a huge government overreach that has crippled our healthcare system. This bill is tax reform. Not quite in the same ballpark.

Explain exactly how and provide detailed statistics and evidence.


They've made having health insurance UNaffordable to most middle class people. If your job isn't providing it, you're having to pay $300-$400 a month for decent coverage with a deductible higher than ever before. We don't get subsidies, we don't get Medicaid, we just get fucked. It does the opposite of what it was supposed to do. This has resulted in the shrinking of the middle class, as we fall into the lower class. That was the pattern for Obama's presidency. Trump is working very hard to reverse that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/11/the-middle-class-is-shrinking-just-about-everywhere-in-america/?utm_term=.c6abb856a0c9
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Heineken14
12/04/17 2:34:08 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Trump is working very hard to reverse that.


OkIa3Nv
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FigureOfSpeech
12/04/17 4:17:11 PM
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Speaking of biased news sources, the winner of trump's fake news contest was Fox News
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GeneralZhao
12/04/17 4:33:07 PM
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yeah this is almost definitely an attempt to distract

Can't say I'm surprised though. He straight up said anyone but a "liberal democrat". Just confirms that included pedos
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gguirao
12/04/17 4:55:52 PM
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The tax bill is awful and I'm not surprised Trump is supporting Moore. Douchebags have to stick together.
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