Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XIX: Discussion Topic Part 4 [smfffc]

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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 11:36:14 AM
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SSJBGenkiDama
11/13/17 11:36:39 AM
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Cloud
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mnkboy907
11/13/17 11:36:49 AM
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Chocobo
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 11:37:10 AM
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SSJBGenkiDama
11/13/17 11:37:28 AM
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Trading hour 2 and 3 for day 90 if Cloud still around.
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SSJBGenkiDama
11/13/17 11:38:30 AM
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Oh.......
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 11:39:50 AM
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glad to see you're still insistent on being as inefficient as possible

not sure how many times you have to get no offers until the end of a round to realize that's the only time you're going to get them
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VeryInsane
11/13/17 11:40:35 AM
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Leon I will compromise on Gafgarion if there will actually be support for him next year
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Robazoid
11/13/17 11:40:42 AM
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Don't mind me, I thought this was the round!
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mnkboy907
11/13/17 11:41:48 AM
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Deleting posts, banned.
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 11:42:41 AM
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VeryInsane posted...
Leon I will compromise on Gafgarion if there will actually be support for him next year


Well, a lot of it will depend on how this contest plays out, who else gets in next year, and if other people are in on Gafgarion. I'd be glad to help him out if other people want to give him a push, too.
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swordz9
11/13/17 11:42:58 AM
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Are we doing a double? Don't mind either way just curious
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The Mana Sword
11/13/17 11:44:18 AM
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what if the double was just two rounds run simultaneously :thinkingemoji:
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VeryInsane
11/13/17 11:44:44 AM
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I personally think Mustadio is the bigger FFT omission but Gaff does have a pretty cool fight
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 11:46:49 AM
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The Mana Sword posted...
what if the double was just two rounds run simultaneously :thinkingemoji:


the gimmick is if you save the same character in the same hour in both topics you're banned

gotta have different outcomes each time
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The Mana Sword
11/13/17 11:48:20 AM
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I was kinda thinking if the same character gets eliminated in both topics, then they get hard booted and all the current hard/soft boots move up a slot

there is definitely no ulterior motive here
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 11:48:54 AM
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The Mana Sword
11/13/17 11:50:22 AM
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I like Agrias a lot! she's probably in my top 10 favorite characters in the contest. I just haven't gotten around to digging down that deep for primary support yet
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 4:44:20 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
29. STATSKOMPRESSION

CV - 31/60
CVI - 47/65
CVII - 28/70
CVIII - 67/75 (Booted)
CXI - 56/75
CXII - 61/75
CXIII - 70/75
CXIV - 73/102
CXV - 92/100 (Booted)
CXIX - 29/100

This is Ultimecia's best performance by percentage and just one short of her best performance by the raw numbers. Those are also her only two upper half performances ever, though she narrowly missed a third one in her debut. Most of the time, Ultimecia has skirted the boot line if she's been able to avoid getting booted. With this finish, she boosts from 27.30% to 31.77%, passing Serah, Cid P, Bahamut, X-Death, Firion, Irvine, and Paine to land at 92nd place overall.

Ultimecia was one of the rare characters from the Old Era who hadn't appeared enough to qualify for New Era STATS, but that changes now. She debuts at 36.80%, between Paine and Wakka for 76th place. In the Old Era, Ultimecia was at 29.62%, between Meliadoul and Garland for 72nd place.

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VeryInsane
11/13/17 5:15:18 PM
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8 - Kuja (II, III, IV, VI, VII, VIII, IX, XVIII)
4 - Sephiroth (I, XII, XIV, XVII)
Reno (V)
Dr. Cid (X)
Gilgamesh (XI)
Marche*/Ultros (XIII)
Jecht (XV)
Kefka (XVI)
Seymour (XIX)

There's your last villain standing stats @v_charon
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 5:16:22 PM
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GuessMyUserName
11/13/17 5:16:53 PM
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note to self search my 3ds for aggy drawing I'm pretty sure I made for smfffc around the time I drew edea eating pancakes
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Janus5k
11/13/17 5:17:03 PM
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Wow

Darn yaoi fanboys broke a beautiful streak there
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mnkboy907
11/13/17 5:17:32 PM
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Shame Kefka's only got one. Gotta change that next year!
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VeryInsane
11/13/17 5:18:17 PM
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Janus5k posted...
Wow

Darn yaoi fanboys broke a beautiful streak there


I didn't count Beatrix otherwise that would have been another character in that streak

also, this was far and away the earliest this particular stat has been decided
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Team Rocket Elite
11/13/17 6:04:02 PM
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SSJBGenkiDama posted...
Trading hour 2 and 3 for day 90 if Cloud still around.


How has this been working for you? When I tried it, it was really hard to find people willing to trade. Has it gotten any easier in the later rounds?
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SSJBKK20Vegito
11/13/17 6:09:35 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
SSJBGenkiDama posted...
Trading hour 2 and 3 for day 90 if Cloud still around.


How has this been working for you? When I tried it, it was really hard to find people willing to trade. Has it gotten any easier in the later rounds?


Opposite actually.....

It worked fantastic at first getting 2 every day. But now I can only get them at the end of rounds. :(
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th3l3fty
11/13/17 6:19:47 PM
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MWC got a fair number of people to take him up on the offer, but people became leery of taking them as we got closer to the actual rounds

probably would've found it easier starting with an earlier round and moving forward than starting at day 98 >_>
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 6:22:56 PM
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yeah it was easier when he was asking for rounds people thought Cloud had no chance of making

I mean he could've just stayed asking for final 5 votes and he'd probably be getting takers
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pjbasis
11/13/17 7:31:35 PM
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Reno and especially Jecht barely count as villains imo.
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 7:33:43 PM
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Well, you could label them as "antagonists" if you want to be more generalized and not get into whether someone's a villain, an anti-villain, etc.
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MZero11
11/13/17 7:34:58 PM
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yeah I would say Kain is more of a villain than Jecht is
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SSJBKK20Vegito
11/13/17 7:48:52 PM
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th3l3fty posted...
MWC got a fair number of people to take him up on the offer, but people became leery of taking them as we got closer to the actual rounds

probably would've found it easier starting with an earlier round and moving forward than starting at day 98 >_>


Honestly. I got King Steiner more help than I would have thought I possibly could ace gotten him today.

Gunning for Championships (plural, not singular) for the Little Red Mage and knocking lackluster Lumina out of #1 spot.
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swordz9
11/13/17 7:58:55 PM
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He could win twice in a row and probably still not pass Lightning if she makes top 5-10 those years too
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 8:10:43 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
28. SEYMOURSTATSO

CVI - 35/65
CVII - 44/70
CVIII - 30/75
CIX - 38/75
CX - 74/75 (Booted)
CXIII - 23/75
CXIV - 34/102
CXV - 25/100
CXVI - 8/100
CXVII - 34/100
CXVIII - 49/100
CXIX - 28/100

Seymour's first and second runs in this contest are about as different as it gets. He only had one finish in the upper half and never finished higher than 30th before getting booted with a next to last placement. Since he came back, he's had three top 25 finishes, including a top ten, out of seven appearances and has finished in the upper half every time. With this performance, Seymour increases from 57.02% to 58.35%, but he falls just short of passing Beatrix and stays at 33rd place overall.

When you isolate Seymour's Old and New Era STATS, it's even easier to see the difference. In the New Era, he increases slightly from 71.13% to 71.44%, passing Vincent (for now) for 18th place. In the Old Era, Seymour was at 45.27%, between Ashe and Rufus for 49th place.

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Inviso
11/13/17 8:12:48 PM
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Thinking about it...

Seymour Guado is the John Silver or SMFFFC. Poor early showing and got booted. Eventually got back in and has gotten STRONG backing from a very vocal user to get upper midcard placements again and again (with one especially high overall placement thrown in for good measure.)
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SSJBKK20Vegito
11/13/17 8:15:12 PM
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swordz9 posted...
He could win twice in a row and probably still not pass Lightning if she makes top 5-10 those years too


That's fucking stupid... Championships should be worth more...
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FFDragon
11/13/17 8:15:46 PM
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do you not know how statistics work
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SSJBKK20Vegito
11/13/17 8:16:29 PM
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FFDragon posted...
do you not know how statistics work


I do.... the difference between Champion and top 5 should be huge.
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 8:16:30 PM
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in terms of statistics there's not much of a difference between finishing 1st and finishing 2nd so Lightning having two finals appearances regardless of whether she won or lost helps a lot

I mean if I weighted winning to be worth more I guess maybe Vivi could be #1 now

Cecil would definitely be #2 instead of Red Mage though
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swordz9
11/13/17 8:18:02 PM
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I don't know the exact math, but as long as Lightning continues to place well she won't fall enough for anybody to pass her. Assuming she kept placing top 10 how many championships would Red Mage need to pass her?
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FFDragon
11/13/17 8:18:15 PM
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i mean, it is huge in the macro sense

there have only been 17 winners

in the micro stats sense it doesn't (and shouldn't) move the needle much if one character wins and the other finishes 4th every time
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Bane_Of_Despair
11/13/17 8:18:47 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
I mean if I weighted winning to be worth more I guess maybe Vivi could be #1 now



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DoomTheGyarados
11/13/17 8:19:30 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
in terms of statistics there's not much of a difference between finishing 1st and finishing 2nd so Lightning having two finals appearances regardless of whether she won or lost helps a lot

I mean if I weighted winning to be worth more I guess maybe Vivi could be #1 now

Cecil would definitely be #2 instead of Red Mage though


what is cecil at pre contest?
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 8:20:56 PM
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swordz9 posted...
I don't know the exact math, but as long as Lightning continues to place well she won't fall enough for anybody to pass her. Assuming she kept placing top 10 how many championships would Red Mage need to pass her?


If Lightning finished 10th every year, Red Mage would have to win five years in a row to pass her.
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 8:21:32 PM
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DoomTheGyarados posted...
what is cecil at pre contest?


84.31%, less than a percent behind Red Mage.
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DoomTheGyarados
11/13/17 8:22:40 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
what is cecil at pre contest?


84.31%, less than a percent behind Red Mage.


Who is 4th again?
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LeonhartFour
11/13/17 8:23:17 PM
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DoomTheGyarados
11/13/17 8:23:46 PM
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Oh, jesus. Who rounds out the top 5?
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FFDragon
11/13/17 8:25:01 PM
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is it still celes?

it used to be
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