Current Events > Trump obtained 70 visas for foreign workers at Mar-A-Lago

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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/business/employers-use-more-foreign-workers-trump-wins-visas-for-mar-lago/XG0GxJIyqb4Z4WxRjwT45J/

this same guy who is hellbent on stopping immigration and 'protecting American workers' when it makes him look good to his political base (working class whites who are often displaced by cheaper, migrant labor) turns around and hires foreign workers for his own business because they work harder for less money.

funny how that works, isn't it?
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I don't think he has any issue with people who come here legally and we know they aren't terrorists.
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So you're saying that he went through the correct legal channels to hire foreign workers
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I thought he was all about bringing jobs to Americans.
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His base will defend him at all cost anyways so even though many just don't like all migrants, the "it's legal" justification is more than enough for them to defend him.
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"America First"
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eston posted...

So you're saying that he went through the correct legal channels to hire foreign workers

yup. but my issue with this is how hypocritical he, and many GOPers are, when it comes to "protect American jobs rabble rabble". do as I say, not as i do, etc.
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

I don't think he has any issue with people who come here legally and we know they aren't terrorists.

He has an issue with brining in unskilled labor. Would those visa applicants even be able to pass through the rigorous qualifications that he's already proposed other visa applicants should have to pass? Those jobs should go to Americans, but Trump is a hypocrite so fat chance of that happening.
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America first!
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I know this is a shock to many liberals, but there are legal ways for foreign citizens to enter the U.S. to work. This right here is an example of how to enter the U.S appropriately.
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You're confusing the crusade against illegal immigration with legal immigrants.
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The Admiral posted...

I know this is a shock to many liberals, but there are legal ways for foreign citizens to enter the U.S. to work. This right here is an example of how to enter the U.S appropriately.

then why are they trying to reduce legal immigration too? You're full of shit, Spencer-wannabe

The Admiral posted...
Caution998 posted...

TC and the article are talking about his jobs policies, not general immigration policies.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

I don't think he has any issue with people who come here legally and we know they aren't terrorists.

He has an issue with brining in unskilled labor. Would those visa applicants even be able to pass through the rigorous qualifications that he's already proposed other visa applicants should have to pass? Those jobs should go to Americans, but Trump is a hypocrite so fat chance of that happening.

Does he? Also unemployment in the US is at a 17 year low. Has Trump ever said we need to stop giving jobs to legal immigrants and give them only to natural born citizens?
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The Admiral posted...

I know this is a shock to many liberals, but there are legal ways for foreign citizens to enter the U.S. to work. This right here is an example of how to enter the U.S appropriately.

I know this is a shock to you, but hes still a hypocrite after boasting about needing to bring back jobs for Americans.
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SamuelHayden posted...

The Admiral posted...

I know this is a shock to many liberals, but there are legal ways for foreign citizens to enter the U.S. to work. This right here is an example of how to enter the U.S appropriately.

then why are they trying to reduce legal immigration too? You're full of shit, Spencer-wannabe

I see ROD has slowly dropped the gimmick of "being a new user here from 261" to going right back to the usual shitposting he's known for.
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The Admiral posted...

I know this is a shock to many liberals, but there are legal ways for foreign citizens to enter the U.S. to work. This right here is an example of how to enter the U.S appropriately.

yes but

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but my issue with this is how hypocritical he, and many GOPers are, when it comes to "protect American jobs rabble rabble". do as I say, not as i do, etc

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Are any of those guys even Nobel peace prize holders or Olympic medal holders? What's going on here?
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

this same guy who is hellbent on stopping immigration

You know that there's a difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration, right?
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The Admiral posted...

SamuelHayden posted...

The Admiral posted...

I know this is a shock to many liberals, but there are legal ways for foreign citizens to enter the U.S. to work. This right here is an example of how to enter the U.S appropriately.

then why are they trying to reduce legal immigration too? You're full of shit, Spencer-wannabe

I see ROD has slowly dropped the gimmick of "being a new user here from 261" to going right back to the usual shitposting he's know for.

You're trying to get on ignore like I put the other guy, but it won't work for you. You've had a hate boner for me for some random reason and you've gone as far as to even publish PMs. Don't act like you don't have a history of being a d*** to me

I don't see any hypocrisy in letting foreign workers enter the U.S. on legal visas and not wanting to see U.S. manufacturing jobs outsourced to third-world nations.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

this same guy who is hellbent on stopping immigration

You know that there's a difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration, right?

yes, but Trump has even said we shouldn't be allowing so many 'unskilled' workers into the country and those jobs should go to Americans. unless we're talking about his money, apparently, then go ahead and bring foreign workers here so they can send money back home.
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The Admiral posted...

I don't see any hypocrisy in letting foreign workers enter the U.S. on legal visas and not wanting to see U.S. manufacturing jobs outsourced to third-world nations.

What's the point of brining jobs over to America if those jobs aren't being given to Americans?
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

I don't think he has any issue with people who come here legally and we know they aren't terrorists.

Which is why they've reduced legal temporary work visas for migrant workers to do work Americans don't want to do?

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

this same guy who is hellbent on stopping immigration

You know that there's a difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration, right?

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/02/541197508/trump-pushes-to-reduce-legal-immigration

"to reduce legal immigration . . . unless they work for me"


The bill would cut by half the number of green cards issued each year. And rather than giving priority to extended family members like the current system, immigrants with advanced education or other qualifications would go to the head of the line.

Advanced education, like house cleaning and serving.
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ITT: liherals being liherals
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A_Good_Boy posted...

The Admiral posted...

I don't see any hypocrisy in letting foreign workers enter the U.S. on legal visas and not wanting to see U.S. manufacturing jobs outsourced to third-world nations.

What's the point of brining jobs over to America if those jobs aren't being given to Americans?

There aren't enough qualified/eager Americans to fill all the job openings. At the high-end, not enough Americans have the proper STEM skills for many jobs. At the low-end, millennials and other entitled Americans don't want to do menial jobs that currently go to immigrants.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

yes, and Trump has even said we shouldn't be allowing so many 'unskilled' workers into the country and those jobs should go to Americans.

So when he says we shouldn't allow so many foreign workers into the country, you took that to mean we shouldn't allow any?

At what point did he ever say we should do away with working visas entirely?
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Also unemployment in the US is at a 17 year low.

Because it doesn't include the increasingly vast number of people that aren't looking for work.
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The Admiral posted...

I don't see any hypocrisy in letting foreign workers enter the U.S. on legal visas and not wanting to see U.S. manufacturing jobs outsourced to third-world nations.

I bet you also dont see the hypocrisy of bitching about Obama golfing and then seeing Trump golf every other day.
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The Admiral posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

The Admiral posted...

I don't see any hypocrisy in letting foreign workers enter the U.S. on legal visas and not wanting to see U.S. manufacturing jobs outsourced to third-world nations.

What's the point of brining jobs over to America if those jobs aren't being given to Americans?

There aren't enough qualified/eager Americans to fill all the job openings. At the high-end, not enough Americans have the proper STEM skills for many jobs. At the low-end, millennials and other entitled Americans don't want to do menial jobs that currently go to immigrants.

The jobs that Trump is giving to the visa holders are for maids, cooks, or servers. Does America really have a dearth of citizens that can't fulfill those positions, especially on a seasonal basis?
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

yes, and Trump has even said we shouldn't be allowing so many 'unskilled' workers into the country and those jobs should go to Americans.

So when he says we shouldn't allow so many foreign workers into the country, you took that to mean we shouldn't allow any?

At what point did he ever say we should do away with working visas entirely?

actions speak louder than words. he should practice what he preaches, etc.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

The bill would cut by half the number of green cards issued each year. And rather than giving priority to extended family members like the current system, immigrants with advanced education or other qualifications would go to the head of the line.

It's funny how the majority of Democratic senators voted for that same bill in 2007
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So many Trumpeters that suddenly don't care about Americans. Sad!
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A_Good_Boy posted...

The jobs that Trump is giving to the visa holders are for maids, cooks, or servers. Does America really have a dearth of citizens that can't fulfill those positions, especially on a seasonal basis?

Yes. Many Americans, especially millennials like the ones on this board, think they're too good for those kinds of jobs.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

yes, and Trump has even said we shouldn't be allowing so many 'unskilled' workers into the country and those jobs should go to Americans.

So when he says we shouldn't allow so many foreign workers into the country, you took that to mean we shouldn't allow any?

At what point did he ever say we should do away with working visas entirely?

actions speak louder than words. he should practice what he preaches, etc.

Sephiroth1288 posted...

At what point did he ever say we should do away with working visas entirely?

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The Admiral posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

The jobs that Trump is giving to the visa holders are for maids, cooks, or servers. Does America really have a dearth of citizens that can't fulfill those positions, especially on a seasonal basis?

Yes. Many Americans, especially millennials like the ones on this board, think they're too good for those kinds of jobs.

i knew it was the liberals' fault
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The Admiral posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

The Admiral posted...

I don't see any hypocrisy in letting foreign workers enter the U.S. on legal visas and not wanting to see U.S. manufacturing jobs outsourced to third-world nations.

What's the point of brining jobs over to America if those jobs aren't being given to Americans?

There aren't enough qualified/eager Americans to fill all the job openings. At the high-end, not enough Americans have the proper STEM skills for many jobs. At the low-end, millennials and other entitled Americans don't want to do menial jobs that currently go to immigrants.

tell that to all unemployed or underemployed people with STEM backgrounds. Especially with age-ism, if you're 40+ and working on the information business, your chances of getting jobs decrease dramatically. Why would they hire a family man when they can hire some cheap kid from overseas?

hurr durr millenials hurr durr
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A_Good_Boy posted...

What's the point of brining jobs over to America if those jobs aren't being given to Americans?

to be fair, the taxability of legal immigration and from moving markets here makes it a more appealing result
this is at odds with the rhetoric and stifling immigration at the low level but a positive outcome in certain respects
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

actions speak louder than words. he should practice what he preaches, etc.

How many natural citizens do you see jumping at the chance to go up on people's roofs in the middle of the summer? How about in the fields, picking that orange you ate for breakfast?
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How do you feel about Al Gore, TC?
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The Admiral posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

The jobs that Trump is giving to the visa holders are for maids, cooks, or servers. Does America really have a dearth of citizens that can't fulfill those positions, especially on a seasonal basis?

Yes. Many Americans, especially millennials like the ones on this board, think they're too good for those kinds of jobs.

Is there actually anything out there that suggests that the president of the United States can't find any legal citizens amongst any of his supporters in this country that wouldn't be willing to work in one of his hotels? Cause that's just too ridiculous to believe that he can't find 70 people among his base that's either unemployed or has the free time to come work for him, especially when he was touting around a kid that wanted nothing more than to come to the white house and mow his lawn.
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"Unskilled immigration is bad!"

"Also we need unskilled immigration to fill jobs that *insert cliched rant against millennials*"

So should those jobs go unfilled and not done, thus hurting the economy because of lower production?

"MAGA MAGA MAGA, BUT HILLARY"

"YEAH, BUT DEMOCRATS!" ~ AngelsNAirwav3s
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DirkDiggles posted...

How many natural citizens do you see jumping at the chance to go up on people's roofs in the middle of the summer? How about in the fields, picking that orange you ate for breakfast?

We're well aware of this problem. The problem being discussed is Trump has been openly against immigrants in general because "dere steelin er jerbs", yet here he is handing out jobs to them.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

"Unskilled immigration is bad!"

"Also we need unskilled immigration to fill jobs that *insert cliched rant against millennials*"

So should those jobs go unfilled and not done, thus hurting the economy because of lower production?

"MAGA MAGA MAGA, BUT HILLARY"

"YEAH, BUT DEMOCRATS!" ~ AngelsNAirwav3s

Lol you're literally the only person to bring up Hillary

Also which planet are you from where "we should bring in less unskilled workers" means "we should bring in zero unskilled workers"?
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

"Unskilled immigration is bad!"

Why is it so difficult for so many people on this board to understand the difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration?

What's bad is illegals entering the U.S. and working jobs for sub-minimum wage rates that fuck with the economy in the local regions. What's good is using legal immigration to fill a skills void when Americans are not available.

This is not hard, guys.
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BLAKUboy posted...

We're well aware of this problem. The problem being discussed is Trump has been openly against immigrants in general

False. I will close this account now if you find me a quote of him saying he is against immigrants in general.
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The Admiral posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

"Unskilled immigration is bad!"

Why is it so difficult for so many people on this board to understand the difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration?

What's bad is illegals entering the U.S. and working jobs for sub-minimum wage rates that fuck with the economy in the local regions. What's good is using legal immigration to fill a skills void when Americans are not available.

This is not hard, guys.

what part of 'they are against legal immigration too' don't you get?

SamuelHayden posted...

what part of 'they are against legal immigration too' don't you get?

The part of "you're wrong" don't you get
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