Poll of the Day > why does everyone have 'crippling depression' now

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i think alex jones was right
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Thanks a lot, Obama and Trump!

DirtBasedSoap posted...

alex jones was right

Perhaps the four scariest words in the English language.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

i think alex jones was right

Maybe it's the stuff that's turning the frogs gay.
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Nothing to be proud about
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Zeus posted...

Thanks a lot, Obama and Trump!

DirtBasedSoap posted...

alex jones was right

Perhaps the four scariest words in the English language.

What did he say?

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ivegotthebends posted...

Would you prefer "lazy-ass slacker"?
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I do it for the cool factor
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Jokes aside, it actually is worth looking into, and I'm sure there has to be studies done at it.

If we go back even just a single generation and there are significantly less cases of anxiety and depression. So what changed?

1) More acceptance regarding it. People who may have been depressed in the past often would not let anyone know about it, so it would go untreated and undocumented.

2) More exposure. The internet is a hell of a thing. The fact that you can anonymously look into things on your own leads a lot of people to realize they're not "just having a bad day".

3) Day to day life seems to have gotten more stressful, particularly for young people who are taking on record amounts of debt and working for next to nothing for a good chunk of their early life.

So, 1 and 2 are definitely good things, but they also come with their own drawbacks. More people who are "just having a bad day" tend to self diagnose themselves with depression without ever seeing any kind of specialist and love to post on social media about it to get attention. So that also makes it seem more common, when in reality it isn't, and it's impossible to know how many of these people there are, or if there's even enough of them to statistically matter.

Combine that with the overburdened medical system and a lot of people can just walk into their doctor's office and effectively tell the doctor that they need this medication, and the doc will just go along with it because they're too busy, which will again inflate number. I don't know if this happens enough to statistically matter either.
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idk about "crippling depression" but with social media and general media just being propaganda, no shit people are going to feel down about the world

-Cops shooting innocent civilians
-Protests happening so much for untreated reasons
-Terrorist attacks
-World "leaders" not acting as such

The list goes on. You have to be very strong or not give enough fucks to feel unfazed by what's going on. The fact that these things are pushed in our faces daily is also ridiculous.
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mastermix3000 posted...

Cops shooting innocent civilians
-Protests happening so much for untreated reasons
-World "leaders" not acting as such

Lmao... are you seriously attributing protests, trump and cops shooting strangers to people's clinical depression?

mastermix3000 posted...

idk about "crippling depression" but with social media and general media just being propaganda, no shit people are going to feel down about the world

-Cops shooting innocent civilians
-Protests happening so much for untreated reasons
-Terrorist attacks
-World "leaders" not acting as such

The list goes on. You have to be very strong or not give enough fucks to feel unfazed by what's going on. The fact that these things are pushed in our faces daily is also ridiculous.

See I think it's the complete opposite of this.

People are constantly bombarded with the positive in other people's lives, it's hard to not compare yourself to someone "happy".

Even if you have a solid life and things are going well for you, there is always someone doing better and it's not hard to find that person. The small victories that would boost your happiness seem so pointless when you compare them to someone else's large victories. It's easy to forget that they had to work for them (mostly).
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OhhhJa posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

Cops shooting innocent civilians
-Protests happening so much for untreated reasons
-World "leaders" not acting as such

Lmao... are you seriously attributing protests, trump and cops shooting strangers to people's clinical depression?

dont see why not, all those things are extremely stressful and worth worrying about amd some people will just end up losing hope
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If everyone has a mental disorder, then everyone gets to take pills to fix their disorder.

People who are actually depressed doesn't post it everywhere.
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OhhhJa posted...

Lmao... are you seriously attributing protests, trump and cops shooting strangers to people's clinical depression?

Yea, fyi Trump isn't the only one part of that list
D035NTMATT3R posted...

People who are actually depressed doesn't post it everywhere.

Sorta, some people like the attention. Perfect example being someone fishing for comments of "OMG I didn't know you felt that way" or "You can always talk to me" only to ignore those requests and continue complaining, woe is me card

I do see some people post about depression and you least expected it (ones who keep posting these "happy pics" mentioned. I agree, people rarely post the full story.
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Started out as a meme, now people are taking it seriously so they have an excuse to be little bitches.
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Actual Depression is when you dont have a reason to be sad but you still feel sad.

If you get fired from your job and feel sad about it thats not depression that is normal.

But when you have a good job and life is going well but you still feel like killing yourself that is depression.
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Modern life is fast paced, chaotic, and hollow. People are overworked and still struggling to get by with little time or ability to foster meaningful relationships. People are more isolated than ever--from romantic partners, family, and community. Spiritual fulfillment is just not there for most people (or purpose if you'd prefer). Western society offers and pushes relief in material goods that never offer fulfillment or real connection.

When every day is a struggle the weight of the world is heavy on your shoulders. I can see how it gets a lot of people down.
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Solid Sonic posted...

ivegotthebends posted...

Would you prefer "lazy-ass slacker"?

Either's fine
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they're putting too much fluoride in our water, man. calcifiying or pineal glands, maaaan
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Dynalo posted...

Jokes aside, it actually is worth looking into, and I'm sure there has to be studies done at it.

If we go back even just a single generation and there are significantly less cases of anxiety and depression. So what changed?

It's assuming that it's factually accurate in the first place. No source or citation was provided for this claim. Step 1 in ascertaining why something is true should always involve making sure that it's actually true.



mastermix3000 posted...

idk about "crippling depression" but with social media and general media just being propaganda, no shit people are going to feel down about the world

-Cops shooting innocent civilians
-Protests happening so much for untreated reasons
-Terrorist attacks
-World "leaders" not acting as such

The list goes on. You have to be very strong or not give enough fucks to feel unfazed by what's going on. The fact that these things are pushed in our faces daily is also ridiculous.

Ever since tvs became common all of this was true. And everything you listed was more true in the 90s (the LA Riots make Ferguson look like an Occupy Wall Street protest, for starters) and has been true since the 1960s.

SmokeMassTree posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

idk about "crippling depression" but with social media and general media just being propaganda, no shit people are going to feel down about the world

-Cops shooting innocent civilians
-Protests happening so much for untreated reasons
-Terrorist attacks
-World "leaders" not acting as such

The list goes on. You have to be very strong or not give enough fucks to feel unfazed by what's going on. The fact that these things are pushed in our faces daily is also ridiculous.

See I think it's the complete opposite of this.

People are constantly bombarded with the positive in other people's lives, it's hard to not compare yourself to someone "happy".

Even if you have a solid life and things are going well for you, there is always someone doing better and it's not hard to find that person. The small victories that would boost your happiness seem so pointless when you compare them to someone else's large victories. It's easy to forget that they had to work for them (mostly).

tbh, there have been a lot of discussions over this and the fact that so much of social media is a lie given that people try to portray themselves in the best light possible thus giving people unrealistic standards for how they should be living. Not that I necessarily credit this as being a significant factor.

TheSlinja posted...

dont see why not, all those things are extremely stressful and worth worrying about amd some people will just end up losing hope

lolno.

Doctor Foxx posted...

Modern life is fast paced, chaotic, and hollow. People are overworked and still struggling to get by with little time or ability to foster meaningful relationships. People are more isolated than ever--from romantic partners, family, and community. Spiritual fulfillment is just not there for most people (or purpose if you'd prefer). Western society offers and pushes relief in material goods that never offer fulfillment or real connection.

When every day is a struggle the weight of the world is heavy on your shoulders. I can see how it gets a lot of people down.

Again, those claims have been tossed around for decades. Hell, those claims go back to at least the 1930s when Charlie Chaplin starred in Modern Times.
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Zeus posted...

tbh, there have been a lot of discussions over this and the fact that so much of social media is a lie given that people try to portray themselves in the best light possible thus giving people unrealistic standards for how they should be living. Not that I necessarily credit this as being a significant factor.

It's no doubt a significant factor especially since so many people now spend a great deal of their day on Facebook. For well adjusted people with functional lives it's probably not much of an issue but for people that are struggling with finances, depression/anxiety, or both it's probably gonna make those problems worse.

Zeus posted...

Again, those claims have been tossed around for decades. Hell, those claims go back to at least the 1930s when Charlie Chaplin starred in Modern Times.

And I'd say they aren't unfounded either. It's common sense really that as the world becomes faster paced and increasingly complex that stress levels will inevitably increase. There is the benefit of living conditions, healthcare, etc being better overall now though

I have a few theories.

First, in the US at least, it's pretty easy to get food and water and the basic neccesities for living. While jobs can be a stress and even housing etc, the truth is, you don't need to try that hard to actually survive.

I think depression can often be caused by the lack of struggle to survive. If you don't get hungry, you don't have that urgency to obtain food, and you can easily become complacent and not "care" about life, or trying to stay alive, or improving your life etc.

There is no underlying driving force to survive anymore, and that can lead to depression *what is the purpose of living, why are you here, why should you bother trying etc).

If you get rid of instinctual desires (the need for food/water/shelter), you are left with having to come up with your own purpose, your own drive, and sometimes people just cant find one.

It's obviously not the only reason, but I think it's one of the reasons why depressing is becoming so common.
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wolfy42 posted...

I have a few theories.

First, in the US at least, it's pretty easy to get food and water and the basic neccesities for living. While jobs can be a stress and even housing etc, the truth is, you don't need to try that hard to actually survive.

I think depression can often be caused by the lack of struggle to survive. If you don't get hungry, you don't have that urgency to obtain food, and you can easily become complacent and not "care" about life, or trying to stay alive, or improving your life etc.

There is no underlying driving force to survive anymore, and that can lead to depression *what is the purpose of living, why are you here, why should you bother trying etc).

If you get rid of instinctual desires (the need for food/water/shelter), you are left with having to come up with your own purpose, your own drive, and sometimes people just cant find one.

It's obviously not the only reason, but I think it's one of the reasons why depressing is becoming so common.

I think this is all pretty accurate as well

I have non-crippling depression.
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I'm depressingly crippled

Zareth posted...

I have non-crippling depression.

OhhhJa posted...

I'm depressingly crippled

combination of these 2 for me. depression just okay enough to get out of bed and then ow oof my bones, maybe I should get back into bed
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Because being poor is depressing.

The internet. Best/worst thing ever.
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OhhhJa posted...

And I'd say they aren't unfounded either. It's common sense really that as the world becomes faster paced and increasingly complex that stress levels will inevitably increase. There is the benefit of living conditions, healthcare, etc being better overall now though

Oh, for the good old days where all you had to worry about was if your child would live past his first few years and whether your family would survive the winter without starving or freezing to death! =p

wolfy42 posted...

First, in the US at least, it's pretty easy to get food and water and the basic neccesities for living. While jobs can be a stress and even housing etc, the truth is, you don't need to try that hard to actually survive.

I think depression can often be caused by the lack of struggle to survive. If you don't get hungry, you don't have that urgency to obtain food, and you can easily become complacent and not "care" about life, or trying to stay alive, or improving your life etc.

"If you see a homeless man with a funny sign, he hasn't been homeless that long. Real homeless people are too hungry to be funny." - Chris Rock
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D035NTMATT3R posted...

People who are actually depressed doesn't post it everywhere.

This so much! They're probably too busy posting memes or engaging in some other form of comedy...

And also:

Zeus posted...

DirtBasedSoap posted...

alex jones was right

Perhaps the four scariest words in the English language.

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Because people never leave their houses.
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