Board 8 > American MARINE who Brutally Murdered a TRANSGENDER is DENIED early release!!!!

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Lance Corporal Joseph Scott Pemberton who brutually murdered a Filipino Transgender Woman at a Phillipines motel is DENIED early release and the homicide conviction is upheld where he is serving 6-10 years!!

He claimed he acted in SELF-DEFENSE when he killed Jennifer Laude on October 11, 2014 because when she was giving him Oral Sex, he saw her GENITALS and went ballistic and attacked her and drowned her in a TOILET BOWL...

The Phillipines Court described his claim as "more imaginary than real" and "easily concocted"

He avoided a "murder conviction" and was convicted of a "lesser charge" of homicide without "malicious intent" as the court said "The only reason why he attacked Jennifer was because he was furious at him for pretending to be a woman, nothing more, nothing less"

They met at a bar in the city of Olongapo as he took part in a joint US-Phillipine military exercise

The both agreed to have sex after meeting in the red light district but that the drunk marine turned violent after seeing her genitals when they were engaging in oral sex

The homicide conviction was the first under a visiting forces agreement between the US and Philippines signed in 1998 covering the legal liability of american troops taking part in military operations.

This case strained relations between the 2 with activists and the LGBT rights group urging them to scrap that deal

Now Joseph's lawyers are lodging a FURTHER APPEAL with the Philippine Supreme Court as now they are going with another theory that he DIDN'T murder Jennifer and that evidence shows that Jennifer's money was stolen by a 3rd person and a necklace was found belonging to a third person.

Jennifer died from asphyxia by drowning according the autopsy report

Joseph also TOLD 2 of his fellow marines that night "I think i killed a he/she" and admitted he CHOKED her but said she was alive in the shower when he left.

Joseph admits he was ANGRY when Jennifer didn't tell him she was born a man but maintains he did "not" kill her and only choked her...

Do you think transgender people should be obligated to reveal they were born gender to a partner?

Joseph - Lying Murderer

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/10/16/3F231C2200000578-4398414-image-a-19_1491836420601.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2017/04/10/07/wire-372631-1491805548-477_634x569.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/10/16/3F231C1600000578-4398414-Pemberton_pictured_center_was_found_guilty_of_Laude_s_homicide_f-a-23_1491836882436.jpg

Jennifer - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/10/16/3F231C2700000578-4398414-image-a-18_1491836420601.jpg

Outrage -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/10/16/3F231C0C00000578-4398414-image-a-22_1491836665800.jpg
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So, he pretty much raped him, and then he stopped himself from being further raped, and that is now murder?
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EmDubyaSee posted...

So, he pretty much raped him, and then he stopped himself from being further raped, and that is now murder?

mrduckbear posted...

when she was giving him Oral Sex, he saw her GENITALS and went ballistic and attacked her and drowned her in a TOILET BOWL...

man how the fuck do you work that out in your head

yes, drowning someone in a fucking toilet in cold blood is murder. Like, the definition of murder.
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Johnbobb posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

So, he pretty much raped him, and then he stopped himself from being further raped, and that is now murder?

mrduckbear posted...

when she was giving him Oral Sex, he saw her GENITALS and went ballistic and attacked her and drowned her in a TOILET BOWL...

man how the fuck do you work that out in your head

yes, drowning someone in a fucking toilet in cold blood is murder. Like, the definition of murder.

Murder in self defense is not murder. If the only way to stop himself from being raped was to incapacitate him, and drowning did it.... there you go. Now, if we knew he was already incompacitated or unconscious in some way that would be different.
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But MWC, men can't get raped
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DeepsPraw posted...

But MWC, men can't get raped

Who in the fuck ever said that????
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Where the fuck do you get rape out of consensual oral sex
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like for real I know you've got some shitty opinions but you're really gonna try and say it's justified to straight up murder a transgender person in a fucking public toilet for being transgender?

That's beyond fucked up, that's downright evil.
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Johnbobb posted...

Where the fuck do you get rape out of consensual oral sex

Uh, it's not....


If a college girl who is slightly tipsy can claim "rape" when she is perfectly fine to consent to what is happening (this is not remotely the same as passed out drunk) then a guy hooking up with a "girl" who is lying about what he actually is is 1000% RAPE. There was no real consent to what was happening there.
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Nice Full Throttle imitation, TC
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OrangeCrush980 posted...

Nice Full Throttle imitation, TC

I figured it was an alt.
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OrangeCrush980 posted...

Nice Full Throttle imitation, TC

No, it's him.

He posts on two accounts now
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DeepsPraw posted...

OrangeCrush980 posted...

Nice Full Throttle imitation, TC

No, it's him.

He posts on two accounts now

That's rather terrifying.
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You know how he could have stopped getting "raped"?

Take his dick out of her mouth.

Rape over.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

If a college girl who is slightly tipsy can claim "rape" when she is perfectly fine to consent to what is happening (this is not remotely the same as passed out drunk) then a guy hooking up with a "girl" who is lying about what he actually is is 1000% RAPE. There was no real consent to what was happening there.

First off: transgender girl is a girl, not a man
Second: Not telling someone every detail about yourself before sex isn't rape.

So if a Christian is having sex with an atheist, and the Christian finds out about it halfway through, then it's okay for the Christian to murder them?

Nobody forced the guy to do anything, and there was definitely no danger suggesting that taking lethal action was even slightly excusable.

The guy decided to have sex with her, didn't like what he saw when she was naked, and drowned her in a public toilet.
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Man I've seen you post some disgusting shit but this reaches a whole new level of scumbag.
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Johnbobb posted...

So if a Christian is having sex with an atheist, and the Christian finds out about it halfway through, then it's okay for the Christian to murder them?

There's a pretty big difference between an atheist and a transsexual.

It doesn't justify murder, but you can understand why someone would have a visceral reaction like that.
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I'm curious what special treatment he received due to the VFA?
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You know what's a reasonable reaction to finding out someone's transgender?

"Oh, shit. I'm not okay with that." *remove penis and leave*

What's not a reasonable reaction?

fucking drowning the person
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Reminder that MWC is a sad little man doing this as an act for attention
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I get the "oh!" surprise moment, but just leave the hotel.

Anyone defending this man needs to be sentenced to moral jail.

He was a grown fucking man with a girl sucking his dick. There was no physical threat or danger to him in any way. Nobody needed subdued. Nobody was forcing him to do anything. All he had to do was leave.

His options were 1. continue getting his dick sucked or 2. choose to stop getting his dicked sucked

and he chose cold-blooded murder.
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Johnbobb posted...

He was a grown fucking man with a girl sucking his dick. There was no physical threat or danger to him in any way. Nobody needed subdued. Nobody was forcing him to do anything. All he had to do was leave.

His options were 1. continue getting his dick sucked or 2. choose to stop getting his dicked sucked

and he chose cold-blooded murder.

We're never gonna agree on this, because you blindly don't see it as rape, where it clearly is. There would be ZERO consent on this. None.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

Johnbobb posted...

He was a grown fucking man with a girl sucking his dick. There was no physical threat or danger to him in any way. Nobody needed subdued. Nobody was forcing him to do anything. All he had to do was leave.

His options were 1. continue getting his dick sucked or 2. choose to stop getting his dicked sucked

and he chose cold-blooded murder.

We're never gonna agree on this, because you blindly don't see it as rape, where it clearly is. There would be ZERO consent on this. None.

To play along for a minute...

There was no force involved. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. He wasn't being forced to do anything. He could've just stopped and left.

So by you advocating this and saying that this particular murder is okay, you're advocating that any girl who has sex and then regrets it and calls rape because they were drunk can just go ahead and kill the guy

This is literally what you are saying you want.
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StealThisSheen posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

Johnbobb posted...

He was a grown fucking man with a girl sucking his dick. There was no physical threat or danger to him in any way. Nobody needed subdued. Nobody was forcing him to do anything. All he had to do was leave.

His options were 1. continue getting his dick sucked or 2. choose to stop getting his dicked sucked

and he chose cold-blooded murder.

We're never gonna agree on this, because you blindly don't see it as rape, where it clearly is. There would be ZERO consent on this. None.

To play along for a minute...

There was no force involved. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. He wasn't being forced to do anything. He could've just stopped and left.

So by you advocating this and saying that this particular murder is okay, you're advocating that any girl who has sex and then regrets it and calls rape because they were drunk can just go ahead and kill the guy

This is literally what you are saying you want.

Make him unconscious, yes, absolutely.
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Cool

Maybe one day you'll hug a girl and she'll scream rape and drown you in a toilet
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If she is still around the perpetrator in the situation obviously....


No, I don't think she should go to his dorm room 3 days later and knock him out with a bat...
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Spoilers: The second that you are able to freely leave the situation and don't, it is not self defense

Spoilers: The second that you become the one who is escalating the situation, it is not self defense
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EmDubyaSee posted...

To the first part, we don't know, we weren't there...

I feel like that would have come up in the trial if it were at all a possibility.

It would have definitely helped his case
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EmDubyaSee posted...

To the first part, we don't know, we weren't there...

I mean, the guy admitted he became blinded with rage and was the one who attacked, so...

At no point did he try to claim he was kept from leaving, which would've helped his case and thus would've been something he'd have said if it happened
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StealThisSheen posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

To the first part, we don't know, we weren't there...

I mean, the guy admitted he became blinded with rage and was the one who attacked, so...

At no point did he try to claim he was kept from leaving, which would've helped his case and thus would've been something he'd have said if it happened

Oh... well, he fucked up pretty bad then. Fair. Carry on.
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As for the second... Yes.

If you are no longer in danger, but you go out of your way to escalate the situation further, it is not self defense.
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StealThisSheen posted...

As for the second... Yes.

If you are no longer in danger, but you go out of your way to escalate the situation further, it is not self defense.

Ok. Ignoring this case, cause like I said in last post, the guy fucked up...

I want to take this statement to all other cases ever in the world. How do you KNOW when you are no longer in danger exactly? How much danger amount can you be in and still be considered self defense, how little danger can you be in and still be considered murder?
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EmDubyaSee posted...

This would be more akin (not a perfect analogy of course) to not telling someone you have Aids or STDs,

Holy s*** dude.

You are absolute garbage if you even think this slightly. >_>

I'm with Johnbobb here anyway.

Big bad marine wanted his d*** sucked and clearly didn't have an issue with the rest of the girl since he got as far as sticking his d*** in her mouth. Not even close to rape here btw.

No one seems to care that the marine didn't disclose that he was a murdering bigot though.

Shouldn't people warn if they're homophobes before engaging in consensual sex in this day and age?

What a waste either way. A waste of a soldier and a perfectly fine Filipino girl.
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Nah, consent is pretty simple.

If you say yes, things can proceed. If at some point someone's like "no I don't want this anymore" then you must stop.

here's how it should have gone

man: yes let's

man: *sees genitals* no stop, I'm not into that. STOP.

Ideally at this point, the woman stops.

Now, if the woman refuses to stop after he has revoked consent, then yes, at that point it becomes rape.


Think of it this way, let's say someone has an STD with crab sores. Upon seeing that, backing out of sex? Revoking consent? Totally a reasonable reaction. Drowning them in a toilet? Obvious murder.

EmDubyaSee posted...

IT
WAS
A
RAPE
DUDE!!!!

No.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

To the first part, we don't know, we weren't there...

I mean, the guy admitted he became blinded with rage and was the one who attacked, so...

At no point did he try to claim he was kept from leaving, which would've helped his case and thus would've been something he'd have said if it happened

Oh... well, he fucked up pretty bad then. Fair. Carry on.

Oh... well, you said something correct. Fair. I'd carry on but honestly I don't know how to respond to you saying something correct.
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*sees deleted messages*

oh wow that was fucking fast O_O.
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