Board 8 > Great, theres nothin like goin deep into a dungeon in Phantasy Star II

(+) Yeah! (+)

then getting ambushed by super strong random enemies from nowhere

everybody dying except Rudo's dumbass

and trying to escape from there but having no idea where to go and getting lost

with having a poor run success rate on top of all of that

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great, I'm finding MORE treasures

I'm actually going DEEPER into the dungeon

FFFFFF

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quick cast that one spell that you don't know what it does because it has a weird name

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Rudo doens't have any spells

and hes by far the weakest member

hence the "dumbass"

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JUST RUN FROM THE GOD DAMN FIGHT

THEY"RE STANDING IN A LINE IN FRONT OF YOU

HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY BE TRAPPING YOU?!

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these guys only do 2 damage each

but they took out half of my HP

this is ludicrous

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Rudo, weak? That's kinda weird!

Is this the first dungeon and you still have him equipped with the bow gun or something?

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Oh, Rudo should be able to take out all the enemies in just a couple shots, you don't even need the other guys

but you should always have him holding a teleport pipe or whatever those items were because he'll always be the last guy alive and your ticket out of there.

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Why are you playing that bad game?

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Escapipe is the one that gets you out of dungeons, telepipe is the one that gets you back to town IIRC.

Good advice, though.

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none of your guys have an escapipe?

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OH GOD

I FOUND MY WAY OUT

OH GOD

NOW TO JUST RUN BACK TO TOWN WITHOUT BEING MURDERED BY WASPS OR ANTS

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I don't remember having any serious difficulty with battles in PS2.

Just the dungeons in the second half of the game. >_>

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there

found my way back to town

with TWO HP LEFT

time to hit up the item shop

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also I'm apparently at Nido

but the game isn't telling me that, I'm just going by what my backloggery said, and apparently the last time I played this, it was in 09

I checked Rudo's equipment, yea, he has a bow gun

ROLF has a knife

the chick has two steel bars

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it sounds like you're pretty early in the game.

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this town doesn't have an item shop >_>

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apparently some "Scoundrels" blew this town the f*** up and I have to "head east" get get them

and yea, thats where I came from when I was running like a little girl

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lmao u suck

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yeah it sounds like you're literally still trying to clear the first dungeon. I was under the impression from your earlier posts that you had made some progress before you gave up.

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Phantasy Star 1 and 2 the only RPGs where I actually had to draw out the maps

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ninkendo posted...

Phantasy Star 1 and 2 the only RPGs where I actually had to draw out the maps

and you're saying I suck

geez

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I'd definitely recommend mapping out the dungeon as you go, yeah. with the first few you can get away with operating on memory alone as long as you don't take long break, but once you reach a certain point you are going to need a map. the dungeons are just too large and confusing.

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saveus_Maria posted...

yeah it sounds like you're literally still trying to clear the first dungeon. I was under the impression from your earlier posts that you had made some progress before you gave up.

well I had no idea >_>

the save file says I've spent 7 hours on this game so far

what the hell was I doing?

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grinding maybe? if you were grinding that much I'd think you would have better equipment though. what are your levels?

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You can spend 7 hours trying to clear to the first dungeon

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ROLF is Level 9
Rudo is Level 9
Nei is 17

whoa what happened there

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Nei levels up faster, that's normal.

1. put Rudo in the front
2. check the shops for better equipment like a sword for Rolf or maybe a better gun for Rudo (I don't remember if there is one in either of the 2 shops you should have access to). same goes for defensive gear though, there's probably some gear you can buy that you haven't yet.
3. take it slow in the dungeon. advance a little ways into it while mapping the area out, then once you're weakened retreat and recover. when you head back in you can rush through the area you've already mapped out and start working on the next section. there's a lot of dead ends in the Nido tower so when you are wandering around you'll waste a lot of time, but if you take the time to map it out you can rush down the "correct" route once you know it.
4. the goal is to locate the two Dynamite in the tower. don't go looking for a boss or anything, once you have those you are done.

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oh and one of the things that makes phantasy star games much less accessible to modern gamers is that you are supposed to be able to tell what the spells do by checking the instruction booklet. just make yourself a reference sheet of what each of the spells do. you can cheat and look them up in a FAQ if you have to since the information SHOULD be readily available to you anyway, and if you have the code there on a piece of paper while you're playing you won't have to think about what the spells do, you'll just know which ones you have and can check what they do with a glance.

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Umm you are doing something very wrong if Rudo is weak. Rudo is the only character besides Rolf that should be in your party as soon as you get him and never leave it. Anna and Kain are the other best two characters to have in your party, just make sure that you use all the gires items (I think one is called Amber Rose).

Phantasy Star II, one of the best RPGs ever which shows that you don't need 10000 cut-scenes to make a brilliant story.

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whoa

so uh

I bought the shotgun

yea...he jumped up in usefulness now

and whoa, ROLF can equip two items as well?

Suddenly Nei is now my weakest characters!

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fun fact when I used to play D&D with my friends I based my character off of Rolf

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the glorious shotgun

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are my levels appropriate to where I am?

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in celebration of this topic, Face of Joy™ Rudo



From: Punnyz | #034

are my levels appropriate to where I am?

they seem about right, maybe a little high actually.

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also I had 10,000 Meseta

so I bought two ceramic knives

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found some "Blasters" and they killed ROLF and Nei again

HNNNRRRG

at least I got some of those pipes this time

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Rudo will be the strongest in your party from now through the end of the game

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see if there's better armor for Rolf or Nei (in the first town ,the one you would have started in) and also make sure Rudo is in front. he'll get attacked more often.

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xD

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I already consider this topic a success!

oh yeah I thought of one other thing. buy a bunch of monomates or dimates and have your guys hold onto them for healing in the dungeon. you'll be able to last a lot longer without needing to go back to town to rest.

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I've always wanted you to draw me

but I will totally settle on you drawing something inspired by me

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and is there an easy way to cast spells outside of battle?

so far when they need healing, I have to do it one at a time

and the menu cancels after you do the spell, so you have to select it AGAIN and do it AGAIN

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maybe you get a heal all spell later? But otherwise I don't remember it getting easier

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I don't think maps or mapping is necessary for the dungeons.

For the first half of the game. Oh god just finding the dungeons in the second half of the game was hard enough let alone the pit trap hell. :(

Don't remember it being hard to remember what spell does what, since for the most part characters have set roles. Rolf's the main character, so he gets main character type little bit of everything spells. The doctor gets healing spells, the biologist gets anti-biological monster spells, and the mechanic gets anti-mechanical monster spells. I personally only bothered with healing spells really.

For equipment, you basically have a choice between

1 two handed weapon (sword/gun)
dual wielding one handed weapons (knives and claws/boomerangs where applicable-or wait were the boomerangs two handed weapons?)
1 one handed weapon and 1 shield
dual wielding shields

If casters have trouble with survivability some people suggest giving them two shields. (though I personally didn't feel it was necessary)

Trying to remember how you get other party members. I wanted to say it was levels, but then again I think it's from going back to Rolf's house after visiting a new town. IDK. been years since I played it.

Also have Shir steal the Visiphone

then

leave her alone <_<

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PUN complaining about spell systems in game made in 1989

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From: Mr Crispy | #047
I think it's from going back to Rolf's house after visiting a new town.

That's it.

I think Shir needed to be level 10 to steal the Visiphone.

And you can always look at maps online if you don't feel like drawing them!

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The Visiphone is a save anywhere item, btw.

You get it by entering and leaving the storage room in the starting town with Shir (at level 10+ IIRC) until she leaves the party.

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