Board 8 > Great, theres nothin like goin deep into a dungeon in Phantasy Star II

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Kaxon
06/20/12 4:11:00 PM
#301:


Which generation are you on? That sounds like 3 but it's been ages since I played.

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Mr Crispy
06/20/12 4:20:00 PM
#302:


Yes, I'm on the last generation with Sean.

Seems like I just need to get one more of the Nei weapons and power them up before I can fight the final boss.

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Punnyz
06/20/12 7:00:00 PM
#303:


From: TheKnightOfNee | #294
Also heaven help you when you get to Ikuto.

also, do I want to know what this is? >_>

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TheArkOfTurus
06/20/12 7:06:00 PM
#304:


From: Punnyz | #303
also, do I want to know what this is? >_>


It's the most annoying dungeon in PS2. By FAR. Remember Climatrol? Waaaaaaaay more annoying than that.

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Kaxon
06/20/12 7:29:00 PM
#305:


Cool, I had Sean on my first playthrough of PS3.

I don't really remember much about the endings but I think they were all pretty similar. Also the stuff you do in the 3rd generation is very similar regardless of who your character is. The second generation quests are completely different though.

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Mr Crispy
06/20/12 7:51:00 PM
#306:


Just finished PS3.

Too bad some of the better ideas got completely lost in the blandness and copypasta and difficulty getting around and generally feeling like treading through molasses.

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TheKnightOfNee
06/20/12 11:34:00 PM
#307:


Ikuto was the dungeon where I said "**** it" and didn't even try to get through without referencing a map. I studied the paths through there, came out with the fewest number of trips possible, and tried to blaze through there as quick as I could.

I don't even know how someone could sanely do that without a reference map.

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Punnyz
06/20/12 11:53:00 PM
#308:


alright, I got the Neimet and the Neicrown

the Neimet took forever to find

I'm assuming thats it for this dungeon....again, considering how hard that last one was

Rudo Lvl 34
ROLF Lvl 34
Anna Lvl 35
Amy Lvl 32

Meseta: 539311

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Punnyz
06/20/12 11:56:00 PM
#309:


From: TheKnightOfNee | #307
I don't even know how someone could sanely do that without a reference map.

I was gonna ask

I haven't been using maps at all so far (except that one map that was posted)

am I that badass or am I just that pathetic

>_>

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TheKnightOfNee
06/21/12 12:12:00 AM
#310:


I am eager to see how long that lasts in Ikuto

If you can complete it without using a map, then it is top level badass

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Punnyz
06/21/12 12:47:00 AM
#311:


Sounds like a challenge!

I shouldn't attempt it at night though >_>

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Punnyz
06/21/12 12:35:00 PM
#312:


I just noticed that I've been playing this game for almost a month now

god dammit I hate this game, wasting all my time!

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Punnyz
06/21/12 9:40:00 PM
#313:


Alright

I found two Nei Items in the second dungeon

this dungeon was REALLY easy, compared to other ones

is it safe to assume theres only two nei items per dungeon?

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TheKnightOfNee
06/21/12 9:43:00 PM
#314:


yes, two in each dungeon

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Punnyz
06/21/12 9:59:00 PM
#315:


*enters the third dungeon*

*sees 3 pits*

....I'm here, aren't I?

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Punnyz
06/21/12 10:17:00 PM
#316:


...I"VE BEEN HERE

FOR TEN MINUTES

AND THIS IS ALREADY MY REACTION

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Punnyz
06/21/12 10:30:00 PM
#317:


HOLY F***ING S***

I FOUND A TREASURE!

AND ITS THE NEISLASHER

ONE MORE TO GOOOO!!!!

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TheKnightOfNee
06/21/12 10:55:00 PM
#318:


YOU CAN DO IT

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Punnyz
06/21/12 11:15:00 PM
#319:


okay

the initial shock was insane

this dungeon can be SO overwhelming at first.

but I think I've calmed down

its ...not TOO hard to explore, its just a matter of trial and error and remembering where you've been and what holes lead where.

yea. not easy >_>. but I have the middle hole completely covered already, no need to go back down there as I've already explored everything in there, working on the other two holes

and by middle hole, I mean the hole in the middle out of the three holes you encounter when you immediately enter the dungeon

the problem with exploring are the enemies. They're insanely hard. THREE Gloswords in one monster group?!
WHAT THE F***! They do like 50-70 each hit. I don't last very long. not to mention every other random encounter has a dragon in it as well.

I've already retreated 2 times and I'm lookin like I'm about to retreat a third.

yea, this place is nuts

somewhat, kinda manageable, but still nuts

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Punnyz
06/21/12 11:16:00 PM
#320:


I found another treasure btw. Lacon Dagger?

meh

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Punnyz
06/21/12 11:22:00 PM
#321:


okay so I accidentally dropped into the middle pit

I was just trying to drop down as fast as I can but then I realized that I hadn't been down a certain hallway

I walk all the way down and Find the PLS CANNON!

aw crap, I guess I don't have this place figured out yet

The PLS Cannon is actually weaker than the Pulse Vulcan (just by a few points)

I guess I should keep the Vulcan ?

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Punnyz
06/21/12 11:41:00 PM
#322:


XDD

SO

I DECIDED TO GO DOWN THE MIDDLE PIT AGAIN CAUSE I OBVIOUSLY MISSED A COUPLE OF ROUTES

EXPLORE A BIT AND FIND THE NEISHOT!!

LOL

all that good s*** I was talking earlier was nothin apparently

SO YEA GUYS

THATS IT

I"M OUT OF HERE

=D

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Punnyz
06/22/12 12:07:00 AM
#324:


IT WAS SHEER BALLS, NEE

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TheKnightOfNee
06/22/12 12:10:00 AM
#325:


I HATE YOU PUN

THAT DUNGEON TOOK ME DAYS

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Punnyz
06/22/12 12:11:00 AM
#326:


as I suspected, the lower left quadrant of the world now houses another dungeon

I enter cautiously

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Punnyz
06/22/12 12:12:00 AM
#327:


From: TheKnightOfNee | #325
I HATE YOU PUN

THAT DUNGEON TOOK ME DAYS

I accepted the fact this dungeon might take me days.

good thing that didn't happen >_>


alright, was this dungeon the hardest one? or do they get harder from here and the one I just did was the stone wall that lets you know s*** got serious?

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TheKnightOfNee
06/22/12 12:18:00 AM
#328:


Obviously enemies will get harder as you go

but aside from the end I don't think anything gets that bad

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Punnyz
06/22/12 2:07:00 AM
#329:


okay

I assumed I had to go back to the mansion

and I GOT LOST IN THAT HUGE HOLE

I didn't know there were branching paths that led to dead ends! I guess I got lucky the first time!

I got so lost that my party ended up pretty battered

by the time I found the damn mansion, I was dying and low on MP

and then he gives me the Neisword and sends me off to another dungeon!

HOW ABOUT YOU HEAL ME YOU JERK HOLE

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TheKnightOfNee
06/22/12 2:57:00 AM
#330:


Neisword gets you back to the mansion from that dungeon and I do remember you can be healed in the mansion in some manner

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Punnyz
06/22/12 10:35:00 AM
#331:


I found out how

you have to talk to the guy and when he asks ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO SAVE THE PRESIDENT and say NO. he'll be like "Oh god you p**** I'mma pray for your stupid ass" and THEN you get healed

god dammit

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TheKnightOfNee
06/22/12 12:00:00 PM
#323:


Oh did you ever get lucky

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Punnyz
06/23/12 10:20:00 PM
#332:


alright

TIME TO FINISH THIS


....assuming this is the last dungeon >_>

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TheKnightOfNee
06/23/12 10:22:00 PM
#333:


home stretch!

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Punnyz
06/23/12 11:34:00 PM
#334:


so as I went along, I fought many tough enemies. god damn. They were wearing me down and I was forced to use alot of healing magic. it really sucks this game doesn't have MP recovering items.
at least not that i know of >_> LOL

eventually I found this chest but LOL THIS GAME HAS ONE MORE HARDSHIP FOR ME

THANKS YOU PIECE OF S***

DARK FORCE

God dammit this guy was hard. he would "turn allies to evil" and incapacitate them in some way. then he would do a move that takes like 2/5s of my life. I eventually beat him by smacking him around alot but I was forced to retreat afterwards

I healed and found my way back to that spot, I continued and FOUND MOTHER BRAIN

shes hawt

I confronted and defeated her, and people were freed ! YAYY

wait, I just brought in a technological dark age, didn't I? >_>

and then afterwards

DUN DUN DUNN

IT WAS EARTHLINGS ALL ALONG

My bland benched party members show up to help, and we all get bum rushed by hundreds of earthlings

AAAAAND THE GAME EEEEENDS

SO

I GET PUT ON THE JOB OF SOLVING THE WORLD MONSTER PROBLEM, AND I"M PROBABLY ON MINIMUM WAGE

I SOLVE IT, BUT MY HAWT CHICK DIES

I SAVE THE PLANET BY RELEASING THE DAMS

ANOTHER PLANET BLOWS UP

WE SAY F*** THE BULL S*** AND KILL THE THING THATS INCHARGE OF EVERYTHING

WE BRING IN HARDSHIPS FOR THE PLANET FOR YEARS TO COME (though honestly this might be for the better)

THEN WE GET ATTACKED BY HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS OF EARTHLINGS AND PROBABLY ALL DIE BECAUSE WE"RE JUST PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE AND THE GAME HASN"T REALLY ESTABLISHED WE"RE FORMIDABLE FIGHTERS. WE JUST HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT MAKES US GREAT. AND THESE EARTHLINGS PROBABLY HAVE TECH THATS EQUAL TO OURS

BUT THERES MORE OF THEM SO WE ALL GET MURDERED AS THAT PRETTY BOY JUST WATCHES US. AND HE HAD THE POWER TO TELEPORT US AWAY. I MEAN, HE APPARENTLY TELEPORTED MY OTHER PARTY MEMBERS HERE. SO HES A BIG JERK ASS APPARENTLY

SO YEA

GREAT GAME

LOADS OF BULLS***, IN BOTH GAMEPLAY AND STORY, TO HAVE US ALL DIE FOR REASONS THAT I CARE SO LITTLE FOR

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Punnyz
06/23/12 11:49:00 PM
#335:


not to mention all of the bull s*** inbetween

like saving a chick for her to die extremely stupidly and randomly in the next cutscene

like getting some plants for bubble gum. and not to mention, the randomness of this scenario

finding a clan of garbage loving midgets and eating their rotten cake at the end of a dungeon for nothing to happen
AND LOSING HP

etc etc

THIS GAME

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Seisen_Kitsune
06/24/12 12:59:00 AM
#336:


The ending theme is called "Never Dream", so I thought it obvious that it was meant as BAD END...but while using Google to be sure I had the music's name right, it's possible I've been wrong all these years. There's an official "Phantasy Star Compendium" in Japan and, if the translations are to be believed, it states that the heroes defeated the "Earthmen race" but what happened afterwards is unknown. It's possible they all died anyway, but they did kill all humans first.


http://www.pscave.com/other/compendium/ (Translation of the compendium. Spoilers for all four Phantasy Star games, obviously)

http://www.pscave.com/other/compendium/page61-65.shtml (the relevant section, which also has spoilers for everything. It's a timeline of the series, look at 1284 for 2's events).


Yes, to find out the truth about the ending you had to get a Japanese only Compendium and you're still left with the absolute final answer being unknown.

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TheArkOfTurus
06/24/12 1:09:00 AM
#337:


Congrats on beating it. Now play PS4 so you don't have to hate the series forever!

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TheKnightOfNee
06/24/12 1:10:00 AM
#338:


A+ game good work

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Punnyz
06/24/12 10:46:00 AM
#339:


someone

please

hold me

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Punnyz
06/24/12 11:13:00 AM
#340:


TheKnightOfNee posted...
A+ game good work


NO

*NEWSPAPER SMACK*

NO

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Punnyz
06/24/12 11:00:00 PM
#341:


one final thanks to you guys

to ark for supporting me through XBL when I start crying

to nee when I started crying in this topic

the other dudes like crispy and kaxon for giving me some history lessons and offering help in general. and SHINE too

and Lisel for making those comics early in the topic ( I was hoping that would happen throughout the topic! But oh well)


thanks a bunch!

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TheKnightOfNee
06/24/12 11:04:00 PM
#342:


I should play through PS3 and 4 some day myself, since 2 is the only one in the series I've played!

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Accel_R8
06/25/12 6:09:00 PM
#343:


DON'T PLAY 3 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T PLAY 3.

Just play 4.

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TheArkOfTurus
06/25/12 6:12:00 PM
#344:


There is no legitimate reason to ever play 3.

PS2 is really good at trolling the player, ties into PS4's plot, and appeals to some players. PS3 is good at nothing, ties into nothing, and appeals to no one.

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