Current Events > No police reform yet,but Biden gives them even more money to cops.

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Luteo posted...

Yet more and more Americans are starting become homeless... we have money for everything in the world except for poor people

Gotta protect the image that we're living the dream. That's more important than, well, actually making it the dream.

Evening_Dragon posted...

What do you think "better" means? I understand if English is your second language. To be clear, "better" is a term of relativity. The better option doesn't have to be positive, just greater than the alternative.

Making things better usually doesnt mean shitting in your hands a little less. You guys are missing the point. Both choices are terrible and things are going to get worse either way. Not better.

LonelyStoner posted...

Making things better usually doesnt mean shitting in your hands a little less. You guys are missing the point. Both choices are terrible and things are going to get worse either way. Not better.

Exactly. Democrats are acting as a ratchet, letting fascists do their thing (or even outright funding them: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/03/the-democrats-are-purposely-boosting-far-right-republicans-this-will-backfire), but when democrats have power they keep things the same or improve things ever so slightly at best. Biden's rhetoric of him being frustrated and trying to hold back israel are countered by his actual actions of full-blown support. I don't know how anyone can believe democrats when they claim they want to help, because their actions show again and again that they refuse to do anything significant to actually help.

Yes, vote for democrats as hard as possible and give them the biggest majority ever in the history of elections, but don't be surprised if they still have excuses for why they can't do what they claim they want to do.

1337toothbrush posted...

Exactly. Democrats are acting as a ratchet, letting fascists do their thing (or even outright funding them: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/03/the-democrats-are-purposely-boosting-far-right-republicans-this-will-backfire), but when democrats have power they keep things the same or improve things ever so slightly at best. Biden's rhetoric of him being frustrated and trying to hold back israel are countered by his actual actions of full-blown support. I don't know how anyone can believe democrats when they claim they want to help, because their actions show again and again that they refuse to do anything significant to actually help.

Yes, vote for democrats as hard as possible and give them the biggest majority ever in the history of elections, but don't be surprised if they still have excuses for why they can't do what they claim they want to do.

No one on this board thinks Democrats are good people that help because they love helping people.

Maybe say this to the non-voters who are so stupid that they'd hold their breath if they thought Democrats would benefit from their breaths, instead of the rational and utilitarian voters who are doing nothing but helping make sure the worse option loses.

1337toothbrush posted...

Exactly. Democrats are acting as a ratchet, letting fascists do their thing (or even outright funding them: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/03/the-democrats-are-purposely-boosting-far-right-republicans-this-will-backfire), but when democrats have power they keep things the same or improve things ever so slightly at best. Biden's rhetoric of him being frustrated and trying to hold back israel are countered by his actual actions of full-blown support. I don't know how anyone can believe democrats when they claim they want to help, because their actions show again and again that they refuse to do anything significant to actually help.

Yes, vote for democrats as hard as possible and give them the biggest majority ever in the history of elections, but don't be surprised if they still have excuses for why they can't do what they claim they want to do.

Ive voted blue my entire life. I dont get why some people have such an issue with admitting both candidates are a shit show. Obviously Trump is the worse option, but that doesnt absolve Biden of criticism. People need to be outraged over Bidens actions.

We could be spending that money in social programs that have been proven effective at improving communities and lowering crime, but no, we need to be training more pigs on the best way to cover up civil rights abuses and police brutality.

Did Gamefaqs fools really think Biden would screw over the law?

R_Jackal posted...

Yeah, basically. Need to drive home the "job" aspects of it.

Living in the South, I see more anger prone gun toters wanting to be cops than I do people planning a career path. Even those planning a legal career usually look at literally everything else in the field before police work. It needs...a lot and there's no easy fix.

Yep. We (liberals, progressives, etc.) shouldn't give up policing demographics to the right.

Maninstagnate posted...

Did Gamefaqs fools really think Biden would screw over the law?

Screw over by not bending over?

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/8dRaJRLqAvM

emblem-man posted...

Yep. We (liberals, progressives, etc.) shouldn't give up policing demographics to the right.

I don't think you can "professionalize" your way to a progressice police force. The institution is one of welding state violence against out-groups to keep in-groups safe

Antifar posted...

I don't think you can "professionalize" your way to a progressice police force. The institution is one of welding state violence against out-groups to keep in-groups safe

Seems bad to wield all influence to those who have no interests in positively influencing the profession though. We're not going to get away from having some type of police force. Seems better to acknowledge that and work within it as best as possible

emblem-man posted...

Seems bad to wield all influence to those who have no interests in positively influencing the profession though. We're not going to get away from having some type of police force. Seems better to acknowledge that and work within it as best as possible

*Cede all influence*

emblem-man posted...

Seems bad to cede all influence to those who have no interests in positively influencing the profession though. We're not going to get away from having some type of police force. Seems better to acknowledge that and work within it as best as possible

There's nothing that can be done when constitutionally cops can just do absolutely nothing like at Uvalde.

emblem-man posted...

We need to further professionalize the profession or something. Make it a high class job with really high requirements, longer and better training, bring in different types of cops(let's see some leftist cops for example), etc.

This exact sort of "police reform" has been attempted by American cities for more than a century.

Has it worked? If it hasn't, at what point should a different approach be tried?

Intro2Logic posted...

This exact sort of "police reform" has been attempted by American cities for more than a century.

Has it worked? If it hasn't, at what point should a different approach be tried?

A different approach like what? (I'm not talking about replacing cops with social workers for mental health emergencies or decriminalizing drugs + reduced harm, BTW. I'm talking about the approach to violent crime when it occurs.)