Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 2 - The Psychology of Fake Claiming

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 8:16:57 AM
#101:


Tacocraft545 posted...
I think knightz defending everyone that seems scum means he is scum. Because if his teammates die its up to him.
Why is it that you are think i am scum? I am not scum I am
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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 8:18:18 AM
#102:


Tacocraft545 posted...
I think knightz defending everyone that seems scum means he is scum. Because if his teammates die its up to him.
plus i am defending everyone not just one or two people everyone.

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Obellisk
04/30/24 8:18:48 AM
#103:


htaeD posted...
Either way I feel like Kirby was ironically as stubborn sounding as you were, Sbell.
(How do you feel about Blade now btw?)
I also disagree with Kirby either way about the Blade thing having no substance.
Just because you think Blade's arguments were bad, does not mean you have nothing to say about thWed.

it's sorta in the same vein of how I caught Han as scum games long ago. He was doing a catch up post and didn't bring me up when he absolutely should have, Town Han would have. He was scum.

And yes, I can be quite stubborn. I do not feel any better about Blade but he hasn't been around this morning.

Happy to have what I believe at the moment is a town death in yhe game.


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Kirby321
04/30/24 8:19:10 AM
#104:


htaeD posted...
He did say he found Blade to the same as Lopen.
Following that up by voting Lopen (for the greater good) is just confusing then.

No one thought I was serious for voting Lopen there, right...?

I don't think even Lopen took me seriously when he swiftly disproved my theorem by bringing up Yu-Gi-Oh Mafia lol

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Obellisk
04/30/24 8:20:12 AM
#105:


ItzKnightz posted...
only because they are blatently town.

Blade is blatantly town? What makes it so clear cut?

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TotallyNotMI
04/30/24 8:22:11 AM
#106:


Tacocraft545 posted...
With me skimming he seems scum. Ignoring everyone else I would not be shocked if he is third party.
Third party?! Wow. Why would you think that?

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 8:23:42 AM
#107:


Tacocraft545 posted...
With me skimming he seems scum. Ignoring everyone else I would not be shocked if he is third party.
Until there is reason to think there is a third party, i like to assume that there aren't any. Especially on day 1.

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 8:23:51 AM
#108:


Obellisk posted...
Blade is blatantly town? What makes it so clear cut?
I call everyone blatantly town until theres evidence against that person.
I'm not saying Blade is innocent, I am sayijng that we should give he/her the benefit of the doubt instead of trying to lynch them without evidence.

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 8:24:19 AM
#109:


Lol MIndmeld

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 8:25:41 AM
#110:


ITT: List three people you think are scum, I can keep track of who's who.

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Kirby321
04/30/24 8:27:27 AM
#111:


htaeD posted...
Either way I feel like Kirby was ironically as stubborn sounding as you were, Sbell.
(How do you feel about Blade now btw?)
I also disagree with Kirby either way about the Blade thing having no substance.
Just because you think Blade's arguments were bad, does not mean you have nothing to say about them.

The only thing I have to say about Blade's arguments is that they were zany. With 250 posts to catch up with at the time, arguments that can't be taken seriously aren't worth my time to focus on. What is so difficult to understand about that? The only players I've given the time of day to are the ones speaking level-headedly and calmly (e.g., you, Peaf, FD, Ben) or the ones who are off the rails because it's intrinsically part of their nature (Lopen and Ulti).

I don't Blade has spoken since the start of the day. I'd like to see his response to everything first and make an inference based on that. Peaf has given me an idea of how Blade plays in Mafia, so I'll be using that as a reference.

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:27:34 AM
#112:


Kirby321 posted...
No one thought I was serious for voting Lopen there, right...?

I don't think even Lopen took me seriously when he swiftly disproved my theorem by bringing up Yu-Gi-Oh Mafia lol

Oh I didnt mean to say the vote was serious.
(Tho I did think that you believe that Lopen would be detrimental to town)
It was just odd to see you compare Blade to Lopen but then say Blade has nothing to talk about

Respond to the other parts of my post tho btw


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htaeD
04/30/24 8:30:03 AM
#113:


ItzKnightz posted...
I call everyone blatantly town until theres evidence against that person.
I'm not saying Blade is innocent, I am sayijng that we should give he/her the benefit of the doubt instead of trying to lynch them without evidence.

You seemed awfully quick to label people as scum when given even a little bit of evidence last game tho.

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TotallyNotMI
04/30/24 8:30:35 AM
#114:


PeaceFrog posted...
Taco - neither MI or I were terribly impressed with your response to my question last night. It's fine that you suspect Knightz, but i would challenge you to keep an eye on everyone else, too. This isn't among us where there are two scum and some number of third parties.

I want to go back to this with Taco suddenly saying Kirby might be third party.

I haven't played Among Us in some time, but when I did there were certainly no third parties.

Did third parties get added to Among Us?

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Obellisk
04/30/24 8:31:23 AM
#115:


Kirby321 posted...
With 250 posts to catch up with at the time, arguments that can't be taken seriously aren't worth my time to focus on.

You've never played with Blade, are asking for help reading Blade however are wise enough to know the argument can't be taken seriously and isn't worth your time?

##unvote
##vote: kirby

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 8:31:52 AM
#116:


Kirby321 posted...
Peaf has given me an idea of how Blade plays in Mafia, so I'll be using that as a reference.
Nah don't put this all on me. I'm referencing one recent game where Blade said post game he had played out of his mind. He's been around for years and is far more experienced than one game's worth. This still feels like you're making excuses.

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Corrik7
04/30/24 8:32:04 AM
#117:


##vote: wall

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:32:14 AM
#118:


Oh Kirby Ninja'd me

I still dont see what was so bad or insane about Blade's arguments about Sbell itself
The lack of focus elsewhere I can agree was not as okay
And it is unfortunate that Blade has left the game for a while now.

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:33:09 AM
#119:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I want to go back to this with Taco suddenly saying Kirby might be third party.

I haven't played Among Us in some time, but when I did there were certainly no third parties.

Did third parties get added to Among Us?
I want Taco and only him to answer where he heard the term.

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 8:33:25 AM
#120:


htaeD posted...
You seemed awfully quick to label people as scum when given even a little bit of evidence last game tho.
I don't just jump to scum as soon theres evidence against said person, I say that 3+ pieces of evidence is enough to convict a player, 2+ if the evidence blatently show that they're scum.

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Obellisk
04/30/24 8:33:32 AM
#121:


I want a taco

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Kirby321
04/30/24 8:34:27 AM
#122:


Obellisk posted...
You've never played with Blade, are asking for help reading Blade however are wise enough to know the argument can't be taken seriously and isn't worth your time?

##unvote
##vote: kirby

SBell: "Blade is scumcasing within the first page of the topic wtf is he stupid everyone thinks I'm scum on Day 1"

Also SBell: "Kirby wtf Blade was absolutely cooking how dare you say his arguments were worthless"

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 8:34:28 AM
#123:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I want to go back to this with Taco suddenly saying Kirby might be third party.

I haven't played Among Us in some time, but when I did there were certainly no third parties.

Did third parties get added to Among Us?
No, they have never been in vanilla among us

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:34:38 AM
#124:


*quick check to see if typo corrections are allowed, correct typo once it is verified, then make a follow up post anyway just to give yourself even more to type anyway*

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 8:35:02 AM
#125:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I want to go back to this with Taco suddenly saying Kirby might be third party.

I haven't played Among Us in some time, but when I did there were certainly no third parties.

Did third parties get added to Among Us?
Yes, at least in versions that the youtubers play since at least a year ago or something

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 8:35:04 AM
#126:


Obellisk posted...
I want a taco
Well, lynch Taco and you have dinner.
that was a joke

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Obellisk
04/30/24 8:35:31 AM
#127:


Kirby321 posted...
SBell: "Blade is scumcasing within the first page of the topic wtf is he stupid everyone thinks I'm scum on Day 1"

Also SBell: "Kirby wtf Blade was absolutely cooking how dare you say his arguments were worthless"

that isnt a very strong defense for why you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

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Kirby321
04/30/24 8:36:53 AM
#128:


htaeD posted...
I still dont see what was so bad or insane about Blade's arguments about Sbell itself

The argument itself wasn't super shaky. It's the "nailed scum to the wall" rhetoric that Ulti and Lopen both arrogantly use. I think it's foolish to be so absolutely certain that SBell is scum that early into the game, especially when SBell always gets suspected as soon as he posts on Day 1.

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TotallyNotMI
04/30/24 8:38:19 AM
#129:


ItzKnightz posted...
No, they have never been in vanilla among us

PeaceFrog posted...
Yes, at least in versions that the youtubers play since at least a year ago or something
:weary:

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Kirby321
04/30/24 8:38:52 AM
#130:


Obellisk posted...
that isnt a very strong defense for why you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

You're one to talk

You keep saying I'm avoiding talking about Blade and using his ridiculousness as an excuse, but you're not acknowledging the fact that the argument he made to scumcase you is ridiculous, at least for having such a strong conviction so early into the game.

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 8:41:53 AM
#131:


##unvote
##vote: Taco
I hate to say it Taco but you're the most sus out of everyone here.

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 8:42:32 AM
#132:


I still watched the occasional hafu bit but haven't played since the b8 lobbies died.

So it's likely that vanilla still just has the normal two scum. I know they've made updates though so I'm surprised they haven't added 3p.

In any case. Possibly a slip from taco, yeah.

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Isquen
04/30/24 8:43:23 AM
#133:


htaeD posted...
Meanwhile

This being Isquens first and only substantive post is as confusing as it is alarming. Especially since he disappeared after he said he got off work

Yes, how dare I go to bed when I'm low-key sick, exhausted and not wanting to catch up beyond "Kirby randomly voting me for ??? reason."

There's over 600 posts to wade through and I'm only awake because some asshole's car alarm is going off right now and I get to work again in a few hours. My posting isn't going to help anything when my only takeaways from a glance are:
- there being no joke phase
- people being overly pissy with each other way too early
- the newbies at each other's throats for some reason?

Anyways, going back to bed, will resume reading while I'm at work but cant contribute much until after again.

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Obellisk
04/30/24 8:44:10 AM
#134:


Kirby321 posted...
You're one to talk

You keep saying I'm avoiding talking about Blade and using his ridiculousness as an excuse, but you're not acknowledging the fact that the argument he made to scumcase you is ridiculous, at least for having such a strong conviction so early into the game.

I've argued against his case this whole time, I'm the accused. Of course it's ridiculous.

Why did I have to pull that out of you? That's my point. You are forced to talk about it now.

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Obellisk
04/30/24 8:45:12 AM
#135:


isquen has a pretty good handle on things.

feel better

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 8:45:25 AM
#136:


Yeah that's a good summary, Isquen. Blade really took the joke phase and burned it to a crisp.

Something something room on fire meme with Isquen walking in with joke pizza that no one wants

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:46:20 AM
#137:


Okay but we had no idea you were sick or exhausted, so take it easy....

Also thats oddly the 2nd time someone said 600 new posts in an hour.

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wallmasterz
04/30/24 8:48:04 AM
#138:


Dont you know, Isquen hates reading

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 8:48:12 AM
#139:


Who was the first?

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 8:48:45 AM
#140:


PeaceFrog posted...
Who was the first?
I only remember Taco saying 600 posts.

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:49:41 AM
#141:


PeaceFrog posted...
I still watched the occasional hafu bit but haven't played since the b8 lobbies died.

So it's likely that vanilla still just has the normal two scum. I know they've made updates though so I'm surprised they haven't added 3p.

In any case. Possibly a slip from taco, yeah.

Its harder to do with smaller player teams I guess
I do think Taco has an excuse here, but not gonna tell him what that is of course.

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:50:19 AM
#142:


Obellisk posted...
it's less than 600 posts and you were here for about a hundred or so of then so its not so bad.

fit it in before homeroom


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Obellisk
04/30/24 8:50:29 AM
#143:


I said it when referencing taco and him needing to read

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:50:56 AM
#144:


Probably a coincidence tho. But I could not, not, mention it.


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wallmasterz
04/30/24 8:52:20 AM
#145:


Corrik7 posted...
##vote: wall

Does Corrik as scum ever pop in to drop a vote after his see you day 2 post? I feel like Ive seen him do it before but dont remember his alignment. Its probably too unreliable to read into

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Obellisk
04/30/24 8:53:20 AM
#146:


wallmasterz posted...
Does Corrik as scum ever pop in to drop a vote after his see you day 2 post? I feel like Ive seen him do it before but dont remember his alignment. Its probably too unreliable to read into

scum
town
3rd party
ulti

it's corrik

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Isquen
04/30/24 8:53:48 AM
#147:


wallmasterz posted...
Dont you know, Isquen hates reading

Of course I do, I work in a library.

htaeD posted...
Okay but we had no idea you were sick or exhausted, so take it easy....

Also thats oddly the 2nd time someone said 600 new posts in an hour.

Thank you, but I didn't say new posts. I was eyeballing the first ...300 or so before I went "meh" and crashed, with my only contribution thinking red was accusing me instead of Sbell.

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:55:59 AM
#148:


wallmasterz posted...
....Corrik ........unreliable to read into

yup


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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 8:57:03 AM
#149:


red13n posted...
read back means read things in the past.

Oh so it's not that I misunderstood what you were trying to say, it's that you communicated what you were trying to say in such an ass backwards way that it wouldn't be possible for me to understand.

You said:

Oh this started early and we posted a bit.
I have D&D and dont want to read back during it.

.

I read:

I have D&D and won't be reading mafia at the same time.

.

But what you meant was:

-There are 3-4 pages so far.
-I won't be reading ANY OF THOSE SPECIFIC PAGES while my D&D session is ongoing
-But ANY OTHER POSTS that happen moving forward are fair game.
-I may or may not show up randomly to respond so l to some of them before disappearing again
-But despite this pattern of activity I am NOT going to be "in and out" because technically I'm never leaving my computer, I'm just disappearing from the Mafia topic for chunks at a time.

.

Gee, how could I miss someone so obvious.

But I think what pisses me off the most is that I was TELLING YOU what I understood your posts to mean, but rather than attempt to clarify anything you just repeated that I was wrong.

But hey, if that's what you were TRYING to say then congratulations you did an awful job and frankly I am shocked that I did not wake up to the sound of a dozen people telling you that you are 100% wrong. I don't understand how anyone could read the posts that you made and reach a different conclusion about what you were trying to say

##Unvote

For now, because you did at least post, but it was literally only to and about me so I look forward to getting a similar level of activity from you discussing other players as well.

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htaeD
04/30/24 8:57:05 AM
#150:


Isquen posted...
Of course I do, I work in a library.

Thank you, but I didn't say new posts. I was eyeballing the first ...300 or so before I went "meh" and crashed, with my only contribution thinking red was accusing me instead of Sbell.

600 does sound nicer than 300 (or 500), I confess.

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