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Zikten
04/27/24 5:54:09 PM
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If we ever make contact with aliens and become part of a galactic community, would earth continue to keep seperate nations or would we become just an earth government, to represent all humans within a bigger galactic group? I feel like in that situation, nations might not make sense anymore
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Hambo
04/27/24 6:02:25 PM
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There'd probably be some UN sort of multinational organization formed to handle interplanetary relations on Earth's behalf. Meanwhile the nations of the planet would keep blowing each other up and probably forming individual alliances with other planets too.

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RedGenki
04/27/24 6:03:08 PM
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Managed Democracy.
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HornyLevel
04/27/24 6:08:41 PM
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Stargate touches on things like this and it doesn't go well at all.

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Tyranthraxus
04/27/24 6:09:50 PM
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In Star Trek they're basically not allowed to make first contact unless they have world peace + warp drive.

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Giacomo_Hawkins
04/27/24 6:10:40 PM
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The US is a nation of squabbling children under a single federal system. I imagine it would just be one more layer of the same.

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hmnut7
04/27/24 6:12:13 PM
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Zikten posted...
If we ever make contact with aliens and become part of a galactic community, would earth continue to keep seperate nations or would we become just an earth government, to represent all humans within a bigger galactic group? I feel like in that situation, nations might not make sense anymore
I think this is a question for the aliens.

Would the aliens want to deal with 700 different factions on Earth, or would they say "get yo your shit together than we'll talk."

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Xethuminra
04/27/24 6:12:30 PM
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Think about it

You got the entirrrrrrrre cosmos out there

Why would anyone be fighting? (Not saying it doesn't happen)
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thronedfire2
04/27/24 6:12:49 PM
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no galactic community would accept us until we got our shit together

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specialkid8
04/27/24 6:27:49 PM
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Do states, counties, and cities stop existing because we have countries?

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Zergrush80
04/27/24 6:30:36 PM
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Imagine humans being part of any galactic society, we can barely stand the society we have now without killing each other. Humans prob be demanding shit they probably shouldnt have than trying to go to war when they dont get it.

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008Zulu
04/27/24 6:31:12 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
no galactic community would accept us until we got our shit together
I think any galactic community would enforce a quarantine on our planet/system to make sure our toxic and destructive behaviour doesn't infect the rest of the galaxy.

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Tyranthraxus
04/27/24 6:31:37 PM
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Zergrush80 posted...
Imagine humans being part of any galactic society, we can barely stand the society we have now without killing each other. Humans prob be demanding shit they probably shouldnt have than trying to go to war when they dont get it.

This was basically an episode in Stargate

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FL81
04/27/24 6:35:51 PM
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Our internal squabbling would just make it easier for the Galactic Empire to subjugate us

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thronedfire2
04/27/24 6:37:47 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
This was basically an episode in Stargate

wasn't even just an episode, it was an entire plotline.

the more advanced races wanted nothing to do with humans until they saved the Asgard from the replicators and showed they could actually be a threat to the Goa'uld

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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
04/27/24 6:39:04 PM
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No.

Simple as that.

Even if they attain, or change to, something more like a territory or state, they will be a thing.

The primary exception is settings that have basically DESTROYED the planet.

Like, say, Warhammer 40k which somehow destroyed/removed the oceans and such during a dark period of history. And which a hero's story (the Emperor revealing himself and saying "fuck this I need to lead them myself after all") is the way the planet then unified afterwards.

I guess Helldivers works too, though I know basically nothing of their lore aside from the basic concept. For Democracy! They say, while having a feel-good description yet everyone doesn't vote, they just take quizes that ascertain who should be in charge. Actually a very good idea... if we could trust humans to not do bad things, including humans in high place.


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Tyranthraxus
04/27/24 6:41:21 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
wasn't even just an episode, it was an entire plotline.
I was referring to an episode where some advanced race gave a primitive planet the technology to make unlimited energy and they blew up their own planet in the process after they started a war over it.

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thronedfire2
04/27/24 6:43:12 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I was referring to an episode where some advanced race gave a primitive planet the technology to make unlimited energy and they blew up their own planet in the process after they started a war over it.

oh yeah, the Tollans. Earth would definitely destroy itself if we had that tech now too

although they did keep refusing to give Earth technology even after they were allies

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Justin2Krelian
04/27/24 6:47:34 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
In Star Trek they're basically not allowed to make first contact unless they have world peace + warp drive.

I think they can make contact without world peace, they just can't join the Federation.

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Tyranthraxus
04/27/24 6:48:42 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
oh yeah, the Tollans. Earth would definitely destroy itself if we had that tech now too

although they did keep refusing to give Earth technology even after they were allies

Yeah I remember they kept asking for tech and were told "no dude we know what happens when we do this"

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PowerOats
04/27/24 6:51:43 PM
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Nope. We'll probably get a Halo like UNSC thingy going, but Earth would not collectively join forces
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thronedfire2
04/27/24 6:53:33 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Yeah I remember they kept asking for tech and were told "no dude we know what happens when we do this"

yup. it was years until they finally shared defensive technology with Earth and that was only after SG-1 saved their entire civilization

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DrizztLink
04/27/24 6:53:57 PM
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PowerOats posted...
Nope. We'll probably get a Halo like UNSC thingy going, but Earth would not collectively join forces
There's an OC fanfic sort of thing I read (Jenkinsverse) that does that.

Humanity is largely represented by a specific coalition, and a massive chunk of the alien population doesn't realize that the coalition only represents like <10 countries.

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DuneMan
04/27/24 6:58:17 PM
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Aliens would be more likely to cruise by in secret, point, and laugh at the stupid animals killing each other and their own planet.

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kirbymuncher
04/27/24 6:59:54 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Humanity is largely represented by a specific coalition, and a massive chunk of the alien population doesn't realize that the coalition only represents like <10 countries.
this is the way I see it most likely going down. presenting a front of being unified under a single organization/entity/whatever when in actuality if anyone looks closer they'll immdiately realize that's not the case at all.

Like, in some sense there already is a "earth government" that would "represent all humans" in a galactic context. The united nations. nearly every country is part of it

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CobraGT
04/27/24 7:04:09 PM
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I was about to answers yes when it struck me that some nations would ally with the aliens.

Chances are good that some nations would declare perpetual armed defiance.

Would suck if the galactic civilization believed in mass punishment.

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divot1338
04/27/24 7:12:06 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
wasn't even just an episode, it was an entire plotline.

the more advanced races wanted nothing to do with humans until they saved the Asgard from the replicators and showed they could actually be a threat to the Goa'uld
If I remember correctly the greatest threat humanity ever posed was that space corn that destroyed Cheyenne Mountain.

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thronedfire2
04/27/24 7:27:29 PM
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divot1338 posted...
If I remember correctly the greatest threat humanity ever posed was that space corn that destroyed Cheyenne Mountain.

oh yeah they brought back like 5 different plagues that would have destroyed humanity if they got out

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008Zulu
04/27/24 8:06:35 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
oh yeah they brought back like 5 different plagues that would have destroyed humanity if they got out
See, this is why snakes in your head is actually a good idea; Their hyper-efficient immune systems would have rendered them immune to such novel concerns. Don't delay, get a snake in your head now! eyes glow

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deoxxys
04/27/24 8:28:15 PM
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xlr_big-coop
04/27/24 8:41:59 PM
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I dread the look aliens would give us the moment they see what the middle east does or what half of the world eats

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DrizztLink
04/27/24 8:43:07 PM
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xlr_big-coop posted...
they see what the middle east
Worry about your own yard, boyo, they ain't gonna be super thrilled to see America either.

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Zergrush80
04/28/24 1:57:19 AM
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008Zulu posted...
See, this is why snakes in your head is actually a good idea; Their hyper-efficient immune systems would have rendered them immune to such novel concerns. Don't delay, get a snake in your head now! eyes glow
I mean thats not such a bad idea if they are more like the Tokkra. Longer life span, disease immunity and an ultra deep voice. The only thing ima wonder if the snake is watching while Im with my wife..

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