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HentaiMan
04/17/24 3:38:15 PM
#100:


BakonBitz posted...
Well, good to know that pictures of people and video game characters of any kind is now forbidden.
yeah. Got modded for a 2B earlier. no-fun-allowed. Guess I'm never using the uploader ever again. fandom overlords yay. I may quit this dying site entirely later.
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfuA_UAz3I

Maybe it's just female? Do sexualized male pictures and gushing over get a pass? Seems to be a trend for the west.

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itcheyness
04/17/24 3:42:47 PM
#101:


HentaiMan posted...
maybe it's just female? Do sexualized male pictures and gushing over get a pass? Seems to be a trend for the west.
Nah, I just checked a post where someone was testing that, their posts got removed.

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Citrik
04/17/24 3:53:24 PM
#103:


Please dispute that.

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TomClark
04/17/24 3:54:57 PM
#104:


Citrik posted...
Please dispute that.


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HentaiMan
04/17/24 3:55:44 PM
#105:


itcheyness posted...
Nah, I just checked a post where someone was testing that, their posts got removed.
Thanks. Text-only Prudefaqs it is then. I'm pansexual myself, so when I mentioned male, I was thinking of a Leon Kennedy (virtually) nude mod that was popular. Pics of that would be removed then.

This may be the year I just close my account and leave this behind- feels like a increasing waste of time. While settling into my recent PS5 to enjoy ^_^.

May as well ax the entire site at some point since others are much more active with more users. Discussion, and game help can be found anywhere else nowadays.

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YugiNoob
04/17/24 4:02:05 PM
#106:


itcheyness posted...
Not according to GameFAQs rules, and rules are rules.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5134d1af.jpg

I'm glad to get the clarification, and I hope this topic can be used to help other people see the new boundaries.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/934c98bc.jpg

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DKBananaSlamma
04/17/24 4:02:30 PM
#107:


Mechu posted...
This is unbelievably dumb lmao


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MC_BatCommander
04/17/24 4:07:21 PM
#108:


... The fuck

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04/17/24 4:08:42 PM
#109:


Whats fucked up is this board is private. Who are they protecting?

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HentaiMan
04/17/24 4:16:39 PM
#111:


--Zero- posted...
Whats fucked up is this board is private. Who are they protecting?
Babysitter and thought police fandom needs to protect the grown adult people. text-onlyFAQs, no pictures. Too risky now because anything can trip off their 'hornypost' alarm

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Prismsblade
04/17/24 4:23:09 PM
#112:


--Zero- posted...
Whats fucked up is this board is private. Who are they protecting?
Good question, what purpose is their to censoring such harmless and mundane material on a private board?

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s0nicfan
04/17/24 4:27:28 PM
#113:


--Zero- posted...
Whats fucked up is this board is private. Who are they protecting?

Advertisers. They're protecting their ad revenue.

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pokedude900
04/17/24 4:33:30 PM
#114:


Their advertisers who are perfectly fine with Fandom's other sites that have borderline pornographic imagery.

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HentaiMan
04/17/24 4:34:38 PM
#115:


pokedude900 posted...
Their advertisers who are perfectly fine with Fandom's other sites that have borderline pornographic imagery.
Hypocrisy indeed.

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Compsognathus
04/17/24 4:39:54 PM
#117:


Citrik posted...
Please dispute that.


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DrizztLink
04/17/24 4:40:34 PM
#118:


Citrik posted...
Please dispute that.
To what end?

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TheGreatEscape
04/17/24 4:41:51 PM
#119:


i posted 'he's so fucking hot' in that very not subtle Balthier topic and also got hit by a hornyposting moderation, it's great.

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TheSavageDragon
04/17/24 4:43:26 PM
#120:


DrizztLink posted...
To what end?

The fact that the mods are saying this means quite a bit though. And they're the ones who actually communicate with DToast rather than get called "bad faith users" for being critical of Fandom's nonsense
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pokedude900
04/17/24 4:45:00 PM
#121:


While I do trust that that will get overturned with a dispute considering multiple mods are saying to do it, I seriously doubt they're in close contact with DToast. Seeing as they all seem to be just as baffled by the rule change as everyone else. Ask the Mods has been VERY quiet over the past couple days with several unanswered topics, including my own.

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DrizztLink
04/17/24 4:45:47 PM
#122:


TheSavageDragon posted...
The fact that the mods are saying this means quite a bit though. And they're the ones who actually communicate with DToast rather than get called "bad faith users" for being critical of Fandom's nonsense
We've already established that the admins are gonna swap tracks on a whim, that the opinions of anyone not directly in Fandom corporate are worthless, and that they refuse to give any information because we can't be trusted.

The right hand not only doesn't know what the left hand is doing, said right hand is barely aware it has fingers.

So what's the point in having moderators tell you to dispute?

It won't change the rules, it won't even explain the rules.

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TheSavageDragon
04/17/24 4:48:16 PM
#123:


DrizztLink posted...
We've already established that the admins are gonna swap tracks on a whim, that the opinions of anyone not directly in Fandom corporate is worthless, and that they refuse to give any information because we can't be trusted.

So what's the point in having moderators tell you to dispute?

It won't change the rules, it won't even explain the rules.

I don't know, man. It just feels nice to have them acknowledge how fucking ridiculous this all is. At least somebody in some sort official capacity, however limited, is getting it.
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HentaiMan
04/17/24 4:48:50 PM
#124:


TheGreatEscape posted...
i posted 'he's so fucking hot' in that very not subtle Balthier topic and also got hit by a hornyposting moderation, it's great.
it really is puritan no fun FAQs. Deleted just for that. wow.

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Compsognathus
04/17/24 4:51:13 PM
#125:


DrizztLink posted...
We've already established that the admins are gonna swap tracks on a whim, that the opinions of anyone not directly in Fandom corporate is worthless, and that they refuse to give any information because we can't be trusted.

So what's the point in having moderators tell you to dispute?

It won't change the rules, it won't even explain the rules.
These rules are new to the moderation team just as they are to everyone else. Which means moderations are not going to be perfect at first. Disputing them, is important because it gets the moderation in front of more moderator eyes to catch where mistakes were made so we can collectively be better at enforcing the rules which, will help everyone have a better idea of what it allowed. Because I agree, right now it feels a bit chaotic.

Also if it's overturned it comes off your record. Which is good.

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nevershine
04/17/24 4:51:19 PM
#126:


Citrik posted...
Please dispute that.


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DrizztLink
04/17/24 4:51:53 PM
#127:


Compsognathus posted...
These rules are new to the moderation team just as they are to everyone else. Which means moderations are not going to be perfect at first. Disputing them, is important because it gets the moderation in front of more moderator eyes to catch where mistakes were made so we can collectively be better at enforcing the rules which, will help everyone have a better idea of what it allowed. Because I agree, right now it feels a bit chaotic.

Also if it's overturned it comes off your record. Which is good.
You know what else would help?

An actual rule.

In text.

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pokedude900
04/17/24 4:53:25 PM
#128:


Compsognathus posted...
These rules are new to the moderation team just as they are to everyone else.

Okay, but what are the rules? Where are they listed? The initial announcement doesn't actually say that hornyposting is banned (or what constitutes it). I'm still waiting for an answer to this very simple question that I posted on Ask the Mods 14 hours ago.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/10-ask-the-mods/80749129

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Citrik
04/17/24 4:54:03 PM
#129:


DrizztLink posted...
To what end?

To provide a baseline and attempt to establish some modicum of consistency with this new rule. For users to appropriately wield the ability they have to correct an incorrect moderation. Doing nothing solves nothing.

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Tyranthraxus
04/17/24 4:54:05 PM
#130:


DrizztLink posted...
You know what else would help?

An actual rule.

In text.

You should know that it wouldn't actually help at all.

Watch Connorseur's YouTube video which cannot be linked here "Fandom has a censorship problem" for an illustration as to why a rule in text means fuck all.

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TheSavageDragon
04/17/24 4:55:04 PM
#131:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Watch Connorseur's video which cannot be linked here

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Tyranthraxus
04/17/24 4:56:26 PM
#132:


TheSavageDragon posted...
For real? Fucking cowards

To be clear I don't think fandom would object to the content of the video... It's the actual video footage that's the problem. You shouldn't watch the video at work either.

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DrizztLink
04/17/24 4:57:49 PM
#133:


Tyranthraxus posted...
You should know that it wouldn't actually help at all.

Watch Connorseur's YouTube video which cannot be linked here "Fandom has a censorship problem" for an illustration as to why a rule in text means fuck all.
I'd take a platitude with at least a little bit of something concrete over the outright empty platitudes we're getting instead.

Citrik posted...
To provide a baseline and attempt to establish some modicum of consistency with this new rule. For users to appropriately wield the ability they have to correct an incorrect moderation. Doing nothing solves nothing.
You're assuming we think it would accomplish anything even if we tried.

Remember last time we were asked for our feedback?

Because we sure do.

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TheSavageDragon
04/17/24 4:59:54 PM
#134:


Tyranthraxus posted...
To be clear I don't think fandom would object to the content of the video... It's the actual video footage that's the problem. You shouldn't watch the video at work either.

Oooh okay. Yeah, that's not on them. I thought they already modded it once for the criticism. Teaches me to jump to conclusions I guess.
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Eviora
04/17/24 5:02:24 PM
#135:


Policies are inherently political. It's pretty much a tautology. Fandom created a new policy and therefore must now ban themselves.
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shyguybry
04/17/24 5:07:50 PM
#137:


I thought this board is against objectifying women?
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P4wn4g3
04/17/24 5:08:23 PM
#138:


Citrik posted...
To provide a baseline and attempt to establish some modicum of consistency with this new rule. For users to appropriately wield the ability they have to correct an incorrect moderation. Doing nothing solves nothing.
If the site is in the shitter, as seems to be the case, it doesn't matter the amount of navel gazing the mods do on a particular rule. You guys will be ignored until you're dropped.

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Citrik
04/17/24 5:11:21 PM
#139:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


It was a Notify Without Delete. Those have always been non-contestable.

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YugiNoob
04/17/24 5:13:04 PM
#140:


How you have to react to every picture of a person from now on

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e9a8fac5.jpg

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Tyranthraxus
04/17/24 5:14:24 PM
#141:


YugiNoob posted...
How you have to react to every picture of a person from now on

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e9a8fac5.jpg
Fuck YouTube for ruining this video

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Kurt_Russel
04/17/24 5:15:37 PM
#142:


Its literally like walking on eggshells these days.
or landmines.

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HANGtheDJ_86
04/17/24 5:16:54 PM
#143:


And you guys still come here everyday?

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TheGreatEscape
04/17/24 5:21:00 PM
#144:


Tyranthraxus posted...
You should know that it wouldn't actually help at all.

Watch Connorseur's YouTube video which cannot be linked here "Fandom has a censorship problem" for an illustration as to why a rule in text means fuck all.

That was a very interesting watch, thanks for the suggestion. Highly relevant to the gamefaqs situation

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devilminion
04/17/24 5:21:02 PM
#145:


Haven't read through the whole thread yet, but going by that mod notice
"If you are holding up a picture of a person to applaud them for their dress attire, that is objectifying them"

It finally happened. We are worse than Resetera. I've always said the modding could be worse, but here we are.

Edit: Okay, good to see a collective of mods agreeing that it was a bullshit moderation. Sounds someone deleting stuff in bad faith

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Robot2600
04/17/24 5:23:54 PM
#146:


banning images of people and even stuff like bathing suits is patriarchal theocracy parading as feminism.

it's about power and control.

if you just want to talk about video games in a G-rated setting, go to the Nintendo forums or something. there is already plenty of space for that.

gamefaqs was unique, and we liked it b/c of what it was.

this shit, as it is now, is fucking embarrassing.

I was neutral on fandom before, but now?

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HentaiMan
04/17/24 5:25:11 PM
#147:


TheGreatEscape posted...
That was a very interesting watch, thanks for the suggestion. Highly relevant to the gamefaqs situation
thanks, gonna watch it now.

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Tyranthraxus
04/17/24 5:25:54 PM
#148:


TheGreatEscape posted...
That was a very interesting watch, thanks for the suggestion. Highly relevant to the gamefaqs situation

Did you see they repeated the exact same mistake with DToast that they made 3 years ago with the Community manager for MGE Wikia and then just yesterday DToast is in the feedback thread suggesting other users to abuse him more.

Fucking company trying to act concerned about Trust and Safety in the community when they can't even be bothered to put forward the bare minimum safety for their own employees.

I'm astounded that DToast isn't furious about it.

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Karovorak
04/17/24 5:27:16 PM
#149:


Citrik posted...
To provide a baseline and attempt to establish some modicum of consistency with this new rule. For users to appropriately wield the ability they have to correct an incorrect moderation. Doing nothing solves nothing.

I'm sorry, but what are we?

Guineea pigs to find out what kind of moderation may be legit or not?

Or are we some crashtest dummies running straight against an invisible wall of rules? Maybe we pass, maybe we get purged? Who knows? Seems like neither we nor the mods know.

And that's the issue.

How can a social community work when neither the users nor the mod team knows the rules they are supposed to uphold?

And to make it even more "fun", the punishment for a single misstep can now be permanent.

It's us who carry the risk of every single post. We carry the risk of these foggy rules, and we will be forced to take the blame and carry the consequences for every single misstep on this beyond blurry line.

How many people will have to get modded until "the baseline" gets clear, and the new rule gets "consistent"? 50? 100?

How many of them will be overturned, and how many will be "nope, that was too much, you are out forever"?

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Cartoon_Quoter
04/17/24 5:28:24 PM
#150:


HANGtheDJ_86 posted...
And you guys still come here everyday?

Yeah. Every single one single day days since the new normal.

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