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epik_fail1
04/15/24 11:00:06 AM
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Wasn't her style popular in 1980 something? Like I get why people might not like MJ in Spiderman 2, but that one is actually pretty

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/ce4a6372.jpg

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Mechu
04/15/24 11:00:49 AM
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Idk, I think she looks fine.

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Drunk_Cobra
04/15/24 11:01:05 AM
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Where is her giant oiled ass.

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superben
04/15/24 11:02:20 AM
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Drunk_Cobra posted...
Where is her giant oiled ass.

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TheSavageDragon
04/15/24 11:03:28 AM
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Drunk_Cobra posted...
Where is her giant textureless oiled ass.

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Karovorak
04/15/24 11:08:13 AM
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epik_fail1 posted...
Wasn't her style popular in 1980 something? Like I get why people might not like MJ in Spiderman 2, but that one is actually pretty

Two reasons:

1) The popular 1980s style isn't popular these days.
2) AFAIK there is some cherry picked image going around.


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nekrodev
04/15/24 11:09:31 AM
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is this from the Outlaws game? cuz i've not really seen much, if any discussion of the characters in that game - just the awful Ubisoft moneygrubbing.

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Damn_Underscore
04/15/24 11:09:58 AM
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She looks bored in that pic

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LoveLikeJazz
04/15/24 11:10:18 AM
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Drunk_Cobra posted...
Where is her giant oiled ass.
Lmao

Yeah I love her 80s style, it's very apparent that's what they were going for. She's not ugly, nor is she beautiful, and that's just fine. She has a good balance for a character who is going to be in lots of action.

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lilORANG
04/15/24 11:11:21 AM
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What is this even from? I thought star wars was done

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Kim_Seong-a
04/15/24 11:12:04 AM
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She's ugly because the people calling her ugly need her to be ugly in order to continue peddling "Star Wars and AAA gaming is woke" outrage-bait youtube videos.

She could've looked like Alexandra Daddario and they would've called her ugly because "girl ugly" is the current meta they're playing, and reality bends to accommodate.

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Tyranthraxus
04/15/24 11:12:24 AM
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lilORANG posted...
What is this even from? I thought star wars was done
It's from Star Wars Outlaws

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DipDipDiver
04/15/24 11:12:25 AM
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She just looks retro to me, like she looks like she belongs in the OT

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Drunk_Cobra
04/15/24 11:13:49 AM
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nekrodev posted...
is this from the Outlaws game? cuz i've not really seen much, if any discussion of the characters in that game - just the awful Ubisoft moneygrubbing.
I've entered a great depression after just now learning this was going to be an open world Ubisoft game instead of the tight linear adventure that had formed in my mind.

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NoxObscuras
04/15/24 11:22:00 AM
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Karovorak posted...
AFAIK there is some cherry picked image going around.
It's this. They took one terribly timed screenshot as proof that she's "ugly" and haven't shut up about it. They did the same thing with other games. Took one screenshot that made the character look bad and ran with it. But she looks fine.

There was even a topic here about it, but that TC started the topic and just never returned lol.

The "proof" they're using, for reference.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/141baf6c.jpg

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LoveLikeJazz
04/15/24 11:25:28 AM
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NoxObscuras posted...
It's this. They took one terribly timed screenshot as proof that she's "ugly" and haven't shut up about it. They did the same thing with other games. Took one screenshot that made the character look bad and ran with it. But she looks fine.

There was even a topic here about it, but that TC started the topic and just never returned lol.

The "proof" they're using, for reference.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/141baf6c.jpg
Yeah I remember that topic too. People also did the same thing with Aloy, in both games (especially FW).

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rynobot
04/15/24 11:26:17 AM
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Probably just racism. Racists will go to any length to blame anything but their racism for not liking something.

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lilORANG
04/15/24 11:26:38 AM
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I don't think she looks bad anyways, but I don't think an "outlaw" is really supposed to be conventionally attractive. She's probably got a hard life of slumming it on the road. Not a lot of time for skin care routines.

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Japanties
04/15/24 11:26:42 AM
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I'm tired of games attempting hyper-realism, it just makes everything look ugly or uncanny.
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Euripides
04/15/24 11:26:45 AM
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Who gives any fucks about how "hot" a bunch of pixels are?

Christ, gamers are cringey

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GuerrillaSoldier
04/15/24 11:27:06 AM
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it doesn't help that every photo so far looks really low quality and faded
or is that just how the game looks?


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Lonestar2000
04/15/24 11:30:02 AM
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It's just incels crying about how she doesn't look like a supermodel.

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pepper2012
04/15/24 11:32:04 AM
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Why would i want to play as an ugly character tho?

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pretzelcoatl
04/15/24 11:33:19 AM
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>ubisoft
>star wars

Hard pass
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Nok_Su_Kow
04/15/24 11:34:45 AM
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I'm just tired of plucky go getter protagonists ready to string me along on another interactive Disney ride. Jedi order protagonist included.
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viewmaster_pi
04/15/24 11:35:01 AM
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why the chin dimple, the model they used doesn't have a henry cavill chin

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nekrodev
04/15/24 11:44:41 AM
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Drunk_Cobra posted...
I've entered a great depression after just now learning this was going to be an open world Ubisoft game instead of the tight linear adventure that had formed in my mind.

my sincerest condolences

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FortuneCookie
04/15/24 11:45:19 AM
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NoxObscuras posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/141baf6c.jpg

If they want an average-looking character, they should hire an average-looking model, not virtue signal over how they made an attractive woman less attractive.
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lolife67
04/15/24 11:46:29 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
If they want an average-looking character, they should hire an average-looking model, not virtue signal over how they made an attractive woman less attractive.
First, why does the character model have to resemble the voice actress?

Second, where have they "virtue signaled" anything? You're being weird again.
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Tyranthraxus
04/15/24 11:48:28 AM
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lolife67 posted...
First, why does the character model have to resemble the voice actress?
The model isn't usually the actress

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Lonestar2000
04/15/24 11:48:36 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
If they want an average-looking character, they should hire an average-looking model, not virtue signal over how they made an attractive woman less attractive.
Shut the fuck up you chud.

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hockeybabe89
04/15/24 11:50:26 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
If they want an average-looking character, they should hire an average-looking model, not virtue signal over how they made an attractive woman less attractive.
Is there any proof that they are virtue signaling over how they made her less attractive?

And I'm not sure how one unflattering, kinda low-res stillframe proves that this is more than the simple fact that real faces always lose something in translation to a video game model.

Even if you nail a face in its compeltely stoic form, the moment lips and eyes start moving, it's clear you're looking at an imitation.

How outraged were you about virtue signaling in 2007 when male Commander Shepard looked goofier than his supermodel face model?

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lolife67
04/15/24 11:53:56 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The model isn't usually the actress
I thought she was the voice actress, not the character model.
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Murphiroth
04/15/24 11:54:48 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
virtue signal over how they made an attractive woman less attractive.

Where exactly did they do this?
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Nok_Su_Kow
04/15/24 11:55:06 AM
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Even real real faces can look unflattering from time to time.
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FortuneCookie
04/15/24 11:55:51 AM
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lolife67 posted...
First, why does the character model have to resemble the voice actress?

She's the voice actor? I thought she was the character model. It looked like they took the same features and uglied them up a bit.

Second, where have they "virtue signaled" anything? You're being weird again

It's actively downplaying looks.

If they hired someone average to be the model for an average-looking character, that's passive. They hired someone for a role and that's the end of it. But if they hire an attractive person, and they make her average-looking, they're actively striping away that beauty to show that they only care about the person underneath.

It's like ordering at Starbucks. You could order the Caramel Macchiato with soy milk or you could order "a vegan Caramel Macchiato" so that everyone within earshot knows you're vegan.
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SpawnShadow
04/15/24 11:56:24 AM
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Because some people think that any woman who isn't hypersexualized like a goddamned Liefeld drawing is automatically "ugly".

rynobot posted...
Probably just racism. Racists will go to any length to blame anything but their racism for not liking something.
Also racism, yeah.
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Turbam
04/15/24 11:57:00 AM
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She needs some fat juicy mommy milkers, and a big fat ghetto brapper.
Then she'll be somewhat attractive

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FortuneCookie
04/15/24 11:57:14 AM
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lolife67 posted...
I thought she was the voice actress, not the character model.

It's weird that they made a point to capture the same eyebrows, cheekbones, chin, and lips if she's not the model.

The character doesn't have to be attractive just because the actor is, but they made a point to make the character a less-attractive version of her VA.
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HashtagSEP
04/15/24 11:58:26 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
She's the voice actor? I thought she was the character model. It looked like they took the same features and uglied them up a bit.

It's actively downplaying looks.

If they hired someone average to be the model for an average-looking character, that's passive. They hired someone for a role and that's the end of it. But if they hire an attractive person, and they make her average-looking, they're actively striping away that beauty to show that they only care about the person underneath.

It's like ordering at Starbucks. You could order the Caramel Macchiato with soy milk or you could order "a vegan Caramel Macchiato" so that everyone within earshot knows you're vegan.

FortuneCookie posted...
It's weird that they made a point to capture the same eyebrows, cheekbones, chin, and lips if she's not the model.

The character doesn't have to be attractive just because the actor is, but they made a point to make the character a less-attractive version of her VA.

What is wrong with you? Why are you like this?

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lolife67
04/15/24 12:00:15 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
It's actively downplaying looks.

If they hired someone average to be the model for an average-looking character, that's passive. They hired someone for a role and that's the end of it. But if they hire an attractive person, and they make her average-looking, they're actively striping away that beauty to show that they only care about the person underneath.

It's like ordering at Starbucks. You could order the Caramel Macchiato with soy milk or you could order "a vegan Caramel Macchiato" so that everyone within earshot knows you're vegan.
I'm not sure you know what "virtue signaling" means. It's not what you described above. Nor is there any evidence they stripped away anything.

And your analogy is completely wrong since nobody "ordered" the character to look like anything in particular nor was any expectation set/promise given.
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Murphiroth
04/15/24 12:00:32 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
The character doesn't have to be attractive just because the actor is, but they made a point to make the character a less-attractive version of her VA.

You're gonna have to prove that they're "making a point" and deliberately doing this and that it's not just an uncanny valley thing, because that's what it actually is and not whatever wacky made up bullshit your horny gamer brain is thinking.

It's also one off model screenshot that y'all are getting up in arms over whereas she looks fine in most shots. Same story as every other time you totally normal gamers lose your minds over stuff like this.

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Vyrulisse
04/15/24 12:02:40 PM
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I just want to know why western women in games always have giant fucking jaws.
They bog the hell out of these characters and no one can really explain why.

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pauIie
04/15/24 12:02:43 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
The character doesn't have to be attractive just because the actor is, but they made a point to make the character a less-attractive version of her VA.
okay, say they did. and? you're playing the game not fucking it.

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hockeybabe89
04/15/24 12:03:04 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
It's actively downplaying looks.
You keep saying this and it's not true.

Maybe you ignored it because she was practically naked, but Quiet in MGS5 had a pretty goofy face at times compared to Stefanie Joosten and no one was crying that Kojima was making women ugly to gain social points.

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TheSavageDragon
04/15/24 12:03:13 PM
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I came for the giant oiled ass joke and stayed for the poster being a joke.
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Nok_Su_Kow
04/15/24 12:03:45 PM
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Also a real real movie thing: sometimes actors are also made less attractive for the roles they play.
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hockeybabe89
04/15/24 12:04:46 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
You're gonna have to prove that they're "making a point" and deliberately doing this and that it's not just an uncanny valley thing, because that's what it actually is and not whatever wacky made up bullshit your horny gamer brain is thinking.

It's also one off model screenshot that y'all are getting up in arms over whereas she looks fine in most shots. Same story as every other time you totally normal gamers lose your minds over stuff like this.
I post Aloy screenshots that look so much prettier than the meme ones every time she is discussed and I get crickets.

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FortuneCookie
04/15/24 12:06:30 PM
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pauIie posted...
okay, say they did. and? you're playing the game not fucking it.

Oh, no. It's an EA game. I'm not touching it.

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Murphiroth
04/15/24 12:06:41 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
I post Aloy screenshots that look so much prettier than the meme ones every time she is discussed and I get crickets.

Well you see, that goes against their narrative that the totally normal gamers are the true victims, the ones whose boners are in danger due to the evil Western devs!
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