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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:05:53 AM #1: |
Titan shifter die in a few years. Most authors would have felt written into a corner and been like "nah since Eren got the founder and touches a royal he can overwrite this rule!" but they didn't do that. Naruto for example spoilers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CARRRNE_ASADA 04/15/24 8:15:17 AM #2: |
Its the silly power creep of having stronger and stronger enemies what ruins popular shounen series. But they gotta keep the cash cow going.
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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:17:36 AM #3: |
CARRRNE_ASADA posted... Its the silly power creep of having stronger and stronger enemies what ruins popular shounen series. But they gotta keep the cash cow going. Most shounen 1. Introduce mc overpowered ability 2. Well it isn't op cause there is HUGE drawback 3. Later: Actually drawback doesn't apply to mc Naruto spoilers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 04/15/24 8:20:41 AM #4: |
Naruto being able to befriend everyone is kinda an important plot point tho
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Irony 04/15/24 8:21:04 AM #5: |
Being important doesn't mean not dumb
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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:24:51 AM #6: |
lilORANG posted... Naruto being able to befriend everyone is kinda an important plot point tho That isn't the point. The point is setting up a rule then going back on it. "Use of this power has massive drawbacks that is why it is op!" "Just kidding doesn't apply to main character hahahhaha" That is bad writing. Even One Piece spoilers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ironman2009 04/15/24 8:25:25 AM #7: |
Zeke was right
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Irony 04/15/24 8:25:34 AM #8: |
That was just a throwaway line
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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:26:14 AM #9: |
ironman2009 posted... Zeke was right Nah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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random_man9119 04/15/24 8:27:46 AM #10: |
WingsOfGood posted...
Even One Piece spoilers --- NNID:MrOddities|PSN:OddGamer2013 Playing:|Pokemon Scarlet/Violet|Ziggurat 2|Granblue Fantasy Relink|Helldivers 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:29:45 AM #11: |
random_man9119 posted...
Nope this is just you realizing even the great Oda did this and trying to justify it. Shounen thay don't break it own rules extremely rare and well written. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Back_Stabbath 04/15/24 8:30:19 AM #12: |
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Irony 04/15/24 8:30:28 AM #13: |
Impel Down has a better example of that plot point
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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:30:59 AM #14: |
Back_Stabbath posted...
At the end they live peacefully but not very long ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 04/15/24 8:31:15 AM #15: |
WingsOfGood posted...
That isn't the point. The point is setting up a rule then going back on it.Naruto has plenty of asspull examples but that's not one of them. --- Science and Algorithms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:32:01 AM #16: |
Irony posted... Impel Down has a better example of that plot point That too. Ability shortens lifespan is the most common shounen drawback that ia also "nah not for mc" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:33:31 AM #18: |
lilORANG posted... Naruto has plenty of asspull examples but that's not one of them. Wrong. This is an asspull. You can like an asspull but doesn't make it not one. Sometimes breaking the rules is entertaining. Sometimes sticking to rules isn't. That is why it is so hard to do and ones that stick to rules and entertain are just so well written. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mehmeh1 04/15/24 8:34:19 AM #19: |
WingsOfGood posted...
At the end they live peacefully but not very long --- FC: 3840-6927-7945, have OR/Y/SM4SH/PSMD/S/US I'm a youtuber, here is my link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRj1lj8EWzRtw3jp3HUXCxQ? .I play games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:36:02 AM #20: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] There was a timeskip and if I recall Eren motivation at the end partially was because he had very little time left. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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random_man9119 04/15/24 8:36:39 AM #21: |
WingsOfGood posted...
Nope this is just you realizing even the great Oda did this and trying to justify it. If it was ever said more than once by more than just Lucci, I'd agree... But at most it's a throwaway line from a condescending asshole... WingsOfGood posted... Shounen thay don't break it own rules extremely rare and well written. I don't really see it as a problem unless the rule breaking becomes a pattern... --- NNID:MrOddities|PSN:OddGamer2013 Playing:|Pokemon Scarlet/Violet|Ziggurat 2|Granblue Fantasy Relink|Helldivers 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 04/15/24 8:37:13 AM #22: |
mehmeh1 posted...
Oh did they? Guess even this writer couldn't stick to it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 04/15/24 8:40:05 AM #23: |
WingsOfGood posted...
Oh did they? Guess even this writer couldn't stick to it. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 04/15/24 8:45:48 AM #24: |
Something like Gear 2 reducing lifespan isn't a plot hole. One Piece happens in the span of like 3 years...
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Goldice 04/15/24 8:55:20 AM #25: |
pegusus123456 posted...
I feel like most stories do this with op abilities when they don't have a fixed ending. Heck at one point in dbz turning super sayian turned you into a bloodlust warrior (there was a whole thing amongst the other characters worrying about gokus control of self as well as goku yelling at gohan to listen to him while he had sense left) and I don't think that even made it to the end of the saga it was introduced. I kind of roll my eyes any time a story introduces a power that "drains lifeforce". It just reeks of artificially trying to add cost to a power that will either be retconned or outside the time frame of the story so the writer never has to address the gravity of it --- New England Patriots: Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI, LIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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