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Humble_Novice
04/09/24 10:17:02 PM
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pikakaeru
04/09/24 10:17:48 PM
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musk is one of the most powerful people in america

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Humble_Novice
04/09/24 10:18:31 PM
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pikakaeru posted...
musk is one of the most powerful people in america
Careful, your you-know-what is showing.

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Irony
04/09/24 10:19:55 PM
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Are you telling me that a Russian spy is siding with someone who's also a Russian spy

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ClayGuida
04/09/24 10:29:38 PM
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Why do an interview if you can't handle questions?

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ooger
04/09/24 10:31:33 PM
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Irony posted...
Are you telling me that a Russian spy is siding with someone who's also a Russian spy
LOL, this

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Doe
04/09/24 10:33:08 PM
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"Ten bad tweets from 1997" is a telling attempt at minimization, creating fake distance from Musk's very recent and habitual racist twitter interactions.

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Irony
04/09/24 10:34:50 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

That Family Guy joke about cars driving you in Soviet Russia was ahead of its time since Teslas have autopilot

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Doom_Art
04/09/24 10:35:12 PM
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Comrade Snowden wanted to chime in?

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Humble_Novice
04/09/24 10:38:53 PM
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Do people still like and support Snowden?

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I_is_smart
04/09/24 10:39:46 PM
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That reminds me, whatever happened with that wikileaks guy whose name I forget?

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itcheyness
04/09/24 10:39:53 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Comrade Snowden wanted to chime in?
Comrade Snowden was told to chime in I bet...

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Irony
04/09/24 10:42:10 PM
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I_is_smart posted...
That reminds me, whatever happened with that wikileaks guy whose name I forget?
He's currently in prison in the UK. Currently he is pending an appeal to be extradited to the US, but the UK said they'll extradite him if the US promises to give him a fair trial and not murder him via like lethal injection or something.

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coolguyjimmy
04/09/24 10:44:27 PM
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Irony posted...
He's currently in prison in the UK. Currently he is pending an appeal to be extradited to the US, but the UK said they'll extradite him if the US promises to give him a fair trial and not murder him via like lethal injection or something.

It's a Cat A prison as well, which are pretty bad. They're only allowed 3 hours of internet a day, I hear. I dunno how anyone copes in such a place.
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Halo478
04/09/24 10:47:08 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Comrade Snowden wanted to chime in?
Dumbest traitor in American history and ran off to an enemy country where he is def telling him exactly how to destroy America he can fucking burn in hell for all i care

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Tyranthraxus
04/09/24 10:51:14 PM
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Halo478 posted...
Dumbest traitor in American history and ran off to an enemy country where he is def telling him exactly how to destroy America he can fucking burn in hell for all i care
He didn't run there. He was trying to go to some other place I think Singapore or something when they confiscated his passport in Russia. They trapped him there on purpose.

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hereforemnant
04/09/24 10:51:30 PM
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There are no good whistleblowers anymore clearly. No, Chelsea Manning doesn't count either
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LonelyStoner
04/09/24 10:55:24 PM
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Before now I thought of Snowden as a beneficial whistleblower to the American people. Now.fuck

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Doe
04/09/24 11:01:12 PM
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LonelyStoner posted...
Before now I thought of Snowden as a beneficial whistleblower to the American people. Now.fuck
He can be right about the NSA and wrong about this

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Tyranthraxus
04/09/24 11:06:10 PM
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Doe posted...
He can be right about the NSA and wrong about this
I don't fully disagree with him. The interview is obviously Don trying to push his buttons, but I also think that was what he should have done because nobody really gives a fuck about Musk's opinions on anything and Don wasn't there to write his biography.

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Master_Kazuya
04/09/24 11:07:32 PM
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How much do we really know about anything? The power dynamic between average ppl and up there ppl is crazy.

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Doom_Art
04/10/24 7:36:23 AM
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Halo478 posted...
Dumbest traitor in American history and ran off to an enemy country where he is def telling him exactly how to destroy America he can fucking burn in hell for all i care
If he stayed and faced the music like Manning he'd probably have had his sentence commuted or lessened like he did with her on his last day in office.

Instead he ran, which I get, but in hindsight was a really dumb move.

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IceCreamOnStero
04/10/24 8:29:58 AM
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Humble_Novice posted...
Do people still like and support Snowden?
Yeah, he's a hero

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LonelyStoner
04/10/24 8:34:10 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
If he stayed and faced the music like Manning he'd probably have had his sentence commuted or lessened like he did with her on his last day in office.

Instead he ran, which I get, but in hindsight was a really dumb move.
He almost certainly would have been murdered by the government and it would have been sold as a suicide.

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darkmaian23
04/10/24 9:38:12 AM
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I believe Snowden's original actions were heroic. I don't know about the man himself, but since he is forced to live in an oppressive hostile country, I think it's a mistake to judge what he says too harshly. We can all imagine we'd do "the right thing", but most people would be leery of becoming suicidal and shooting themselves in the back of the head twice and then throwing themselves out of a window.

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nekrodev
04/10/24 9:44:09 AM
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I haven't seen the interview, but if it's even remotely as bad as Snowden is saying it is, then oof.

And, fuck Elon Musk, but a bad interview is a bad interview.

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IceCreamOnStero
04/10/24 9:59:44 AM
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What exactly are you confused about?

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ScazarMeltex
04/10/24 10:01:59 AM
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Irony posted...
He's currently in prison in the UK. Currently he is pending an appeal to be extradited to the US, but the UK said they'll extradite him if the US promises to give him a fair trial and not murder him via like lethal injection or something.
Assange? Yeah fuck him. Wikileaks leaked the names of LGBTQ people who live in places where that's a death sentence. It should also be noted that both DNC and RNC emails were hacked but only the DNC's got leaked.

Also, he's a rapist.

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Humble_Novice
04/10/24 10:03:45 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Assange? Yeah fuck him. Wikileaks leaked the names of LGBTQ people who live in places where that's a death sentence. It should also be noted that both DNC and RNC emails were hacked but only the DNC's got leaked.

Also, he's a rapist.
I'm wondering if people still like Assange after he did all this.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/10/24 10:05:29 AM
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nekrodev posted...
I haven't seen the interview, but if it's even remotely as bad as Snowden is saying it is, then oof.

And, fuck Elon Musk, but a bad interview is a bad interview.
Maybe watch the interview before taking others opinions on it? Its pretty easy to find.

And its also not the way he describes it.

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WingsOfGood
04/10/24 10:07:35 AM
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Snowden has lived in Russia so long he is probably compromised now. I mean he has to do certain things or they will extradite him.
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pinky0926
04/10/24 10:12:30 AM
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Snowden is always a wild discussion to see on CE because some of the comments will be "this man is the greatest hero in human history" and others will be like "he's a piece of shit traitor and russian shill", and rarely anything in between

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WingsOfGood
04/10/24 10:16:24 AM
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^ back when he blew the whistle he was doing a good thing

I don't think he is atm a Russian shill by his own willingness but the situation means he is most likely at their whim; and Musk likes Russia
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nekrodev
04/10/24 10:16:52 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Maybe watch the interview before taking others opinions on it? Its pretty easy to find.

And its also not the way he describes it.

I'll watch it when I can, but haven't had the chance. Also, if it were Elon, himself, or some other typical chud coming out and being like, "waaah they treated me/him unfair", I'd wave it off, but Snowden doesn't generally weigh in on stuff like this, and certainly had a well written opinion - while it's accuracy might still be questionable.

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WingsOfGood
04/10/24 10:18:51 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xy8_hJnCy4

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ssb_yunglink2
04/10/24 10:25:52 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xy8_hJnCy4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOwNUiZLhRc
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/10/24 10:26:19 AM
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"Ten bad tweets from 1997" sure is an interesting way to frame recently and actively shitposting on a social media platform you own by dogwhistling for confirmed Neo-Nazis (who you also unbanned).

But you know, to-may-to, to-mah-to

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Fluttershy
04/10/24 10:31:10 AM
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'1997' is a common typo for 'march'.

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IceCreamOnStero
04/10/24 11:14:46 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Revealing to the American public the disregard their government had for their civil liberties.

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McMarbles
04/10/24 11:21:24 AM
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Humble_Novice posted...
Do people still like and support Snowden?
The Murica bad, not-Murica good faction of the left still capes for him.

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Gritty
04/10/24 12:48:24 PM
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Irony posted...
Are you telling me that a Russian spy is siding with someone who's also a Russian spy
Whattt?????
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nekrodev
04/10/24 12:49:00 PM
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Watched most of the interview, but cut it a bit short cuz it was mostly just boring. At the point I'd stopped, it hadn't gotten terribly heated, and was mostly just two dudes going disagreeing over everything w/ one of them present some form of evidence, and the other not doing that.

Elon Musk is an idiot, and Don Lemon was definitely at least somewhat antagonistic from the start, but I don't think it was AS BAD as Snowden claimed. It wasn't a great interview either, very predictable and dull.

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tremain07
04/10/24 12:52:11 PM
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Progressives love Snowden and assange and demand pardons for both men because freedom of the press means they bare no responsibility for anything they leak

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Anteaterking
04/10/24 1:02:07 PM
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Snowden has done so much self-aggrandizing of his actual role working for the government when it's clear that what he was mostly motivated by was ego. I think even if you think that he shone light on bad things, the hero narrative kind of falls out of wack when it ends up being more like "I was okay with all of this until people didn't treat me like the wunderkind I thought I was and so I found another way to get infamy".

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