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wackyteen 04/07/24 12:10:01 PM #1: |
https://en.as.com/mlb/kids-needing-tommy-john-surgery-exposes-the-failings-in-our-youth-baseball-culture-n/
So many people forget that their kids and teens are still growing, their bodies aren't fully developed, but they're demanding adult-physique level outputs from them all the time. It's not wonder injuries are piling up in major sports at all levels. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 04/07/24 12:19:14 PM #2: |
I dont know shit about baseball but I grew up in adjacent circles as Bryce Harper and from what I've heard the shit they put that kid through growing up was straight up child abuse. Dunno if he ever had this injury tho.
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chrono625 04/07/24 12:23:35 PM #3: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
I dont know shit about baseball but I grew up in adjacent circles as Bryce Harper and from what I've heard the shit they put that kid through growing up was straight up child abuse. Dunno if he ever had this injury tho. Bryce Harper seems to be doing just fine now anyway, this has been a argument for a long time now. The amount of baseball and camps parents are willing to put their kids through for a microcosm chance they can even make a D1 program is absurd. there is zero reason a 12 year old needs to be throwing splitters, curves and sliders while pushing their arm against its limits. also, as mentioned, baseball is now an all year sport. Spring, fall, summer, travel, indoor. It doesnt end. Its a job for these kids. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 04/07/24 12:30:14 PM #4: |
And yet all the "purists" want to blame the pitch clock
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ThePieReborn 04/07/24 12:31:56 PM #5: |
Don't forget the rotator cuff tears.
Modern day athletic training/conditioning for kids/teenagers is god damn brutal in its expectations and impacts. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gritty 04/07/24 12:32:46 PM #6: |
Americans are so hyper capitalist they see their children only as assets to be leveraged ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SiO4 04/07/24 12:47:12 PM #7: |
Gritty posted...
Americans are so hyper capitalist they see their children only as assets to be leveraged --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeneralKenobi85 04/07/24 12:48:49 PM #8: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
I dont know shit about baseball but I grew up in adjacent circles as Bryce Harper and from what I've heard the shit they put that kid through growing up was straight up child abuse. Dunno if he ever had this injury tho.He also had Tommy John surgery a couple years ago. And now his time as an outfielder is pretty much over and he will likely spend the rest of his career playing 1B or DH. But he's already got his massive payday and isn't a pitcher anyway, so he's fine. Most of the kids who are playing baseball even a fraction as rigorously as Harper did are never going to have professional success. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 04/07/24 12:50:34 PM #9: |
Gritty posted...
Americans are so hyper capitalist they see their children only as assets to be leveragedhate to break it to you but the most common reason in history to have children was so you could have more hands on the farm --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Full_Pokedex 04/07/24 6:56:16 PM #10: |
I didn't have to worry because I didn't do any sports as a kid.
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divot1338 04/07/24 7:05:59 PM #11: |
Pitching is hard on a kids arm. I couldnt do it and my father never got over it.
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divot1338 04/07/24 7:06:53 PM #12: |
wackyteen posted...
hate to break it to you but the most common reason in history to have children was so you could have more hands on the farmMy mother was 16 of the 17 kids that survived childbirth. Cotton farm. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 04/07/24 7:08:04 PM #13: |
wackyteen posted...
hate to break it to you but the most common reason in history to have children was so you could have more hands on the farm I mean that's a little different than spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to try and force your kid into becoming a sports phenom. --- https://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7fCcfko.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 04/07/24 7:13:42 PM #14: |
Bio1590 posted...
I mean that's a little different than spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to try and force your kid into becoming a sports phenom.For a lot of families their kid getting a good scholarship is the only way theyre going to a good college. Kids are also very competitive and want to be the best too. Im not saying that we should force kids to throw their arms off, but this is just the reality of becoming a top tier athlete in the modern day. --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 04/07/24 7:15:05 PM #15: |
Gritty posted...
Americans are so hyper capitalist they see their children only as assets to be leveragedPushing your body to the limit from a young age is also absolutely not solely an american thing --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/07/24 7:20:18 PM #16: |
I played baseball when I was a kid and you were always taught to throw as hard as possible as long as you can control it.
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ssb_yunglink2 04/07/24 7:21:22 PM #17: |
thronedfire2 posted...
I played baseball when I was a kid and you were always taught to throw as hard as possible as long as you can control it.Tennis is also particularly bad with shoulder injuries. I played tennis from about 8 until the end of college and my right knee and shoulder are done --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ForsakenHermit 04/07/24 7:23:56 PM #18: |
So the decline in multi sport athletes is causing more injuries to teenage pitchers?
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RetuenOfDevsman 04/07/24 7:24:10 PM #19: |
Too much competition. If you wanna be a pro, you have to shine in college. If you wanna play in college, you have to shine in high school. If you wanna play in high school, you have to shine in middle school. Allllllll the way down to tee-ball.
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gp1829 04/07/24 7:37:14 PM #20: |
ForsakenHermit posted... So the decline in multi sport athletes is causing more injuries to teenage pitchers?Yeah because they throw all year now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ForsakenHermit 04/07/24 7:39:23 PM #21: |
gp1829 posted...
Yeah because they throw all year now.Don't college and professional pitchers rest their arms in the off-season? --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 04/07/24 7:45:39 PM #22: |
Gritty posted...
Americans are so hyper capitalist they see their children only as assets to be leveragedThis, not just our children either, everyone who doesn't have a six figure bank account should be working extremely hard for little to no compensation and those who don't or scoff at such an idea are billed as lazy, entitled, bringing everyone else down, holding back this country, ect. In fact, when people say they're barely scrapping by or that prices are out of control they're called whiners told to get a second or third job and to manage their money better, anything but tax the billionaires who cheat on their taxes, anything but fund government programs that could actually gain resources to go after corporations who kill people at a whim and regularly abuse it's employees in various ways. Anything but that America is a great wonderful country if you're a billionaire if you're anything else you are an expendable cog who exists to work to enrich those above you and should be happy for the privlage to do so so says our government. Stay extra late, come extra early, take some work home with offer to work free overtime, offer to wash the bosses car or anything to be a loyal employee who takes pride in their work! --- A worthless existence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybabe89 04/07/24 7:47:27 PM #23: |
But the pitch clock tho
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gp1829 04/07/24 7:50:39 PM #24: |
ForsakenHermit posted... Don't college and professional pitchers rest their arms in the off-season? Yeah but the younger players play year round and don't rest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 04/07/24 7:56:44 PM #25: |
When I had to get my hips replaced, one of the doctors I checked out was a specialist in sports medicine that replaced knees and hips for people in their teens and 20s.
The vast majority from football injuries, and some runners. I was shocked that this even existed, let alone that he had enough patients for a very nice practice and a very busy schedule. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 04/07/24 9:46:55 PM #26: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
For a lot of families their kid getting a good scholarship is the only way theyre going to a good college. We're not talking about the same thing. The families that are trying to turn their kid(s) into a sports phenom from a young age do not need their kids to get a "good scholarship" to go to a "good college". They can afford it, just like they can afford sending their kid(s) to all these camps and tournaments across the country year-round. --- https://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7fCcfko.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 04/07/24 9:51:16 PM #27: |
The problem is the idiot parents trying to get kids maximum exposure so they pay professional coaches to train and play them year round in showcases and tournaments. Its a complete shit show.
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thronedfire2 04/07/24 9:59:07 PM #28: |
Bio1590 posted...
We're not talking about the same thing. especially since baseball is more about practice too. it's much less common for people to get scholarships just based on raw talent like for football or BBall --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 04/07/24 10:11:57 PM #29: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Tennis is also particularly bad with shoulder injuries. I fucked up both my knee and my shoulder, playing tennis, before I even actually made it to college. I lucked out in that I suffered an injury in my senior year after I had already accepted a scholarship, and my college decided to honor the scholarship, anyway, even though I could barely play. Granted, this was likely because my college was Kent State, who have barely ever been a major competing college in... Any sport, so they allowed the athletic director to actually be a good person. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 04/07/24 10:15:37 PM #30: |
StealThisSheen posted...
I fucked up both my knee and my shoulder, playing tennis, before I even actually made it to college. I lucked out in that I suffered an injury in my senior year after I had already accepted a scholarship, and my college decided to honor the scholarship, anyway, even though I could barely play.Yeah tennis is brutal on the body. Crazy how the pros will have hip and knee replacements and then just keep playing for several years Glad your school let you keep the scholarship tho --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/07/24 10:18:19 PM #31: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Yeah tennis is brutal on the body. Crazy how the pros will have hip and knee replacements and then just keep playing for several years hip replacements are some amazing technology my had has had both hips replaced and still golfs at 62 --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 04/07/24 10:53:22 PM #32: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Yeah tennis is brutal on the body. Crazy how the pros will have hip and knee replacements and then just keep playing for several years Yeah, I didn't expect them to at all. I actually met with the athletic director at the time, figuring I'd tell them about my injury, then request information on other potential academic scholarship possibilities. Instead, he basically went "Can you play?" And I was like "I mean, yeah, relatively speaking." And he went "See you in the fall, welcome to Kent State." I'll never forget it, honestly. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir_Will 04/07/24 11:16:42 PM #33: |
This is horrible....
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Aloc 04/07/24 11:23:13 PM #34: |
So is basketball the American sport with least injuries?
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divot1338 04/08/24 6:24:35 AM #35: |
Aloc posted...
So is basketball the American sport with least injuries?Theres a lot of the freakishly tall people who havent got the musculature to be playing in the NBA. Also foot problems are ubiquitous. My guess is baseball though. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sfcalimari 04/08/24 6:30:10 AM #36: |
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pinky0926 04/08/24 6:36:00 AM #37: |
As a professional armchair surgeon I have deduced that the way those guys throw a ball looks fuckin weird in slow mo and intuitively can't be good for your body
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Aloc 04/08/24 6:53:54 AM #38: |
divot1338 posted...
Theres a lot of the freakishly tall people who havent got the musculature to be playing in the NBA. Also foot problems are ubiquitous.Those freakishly tall people are the rarities. --- Aloc will now post in PG or try ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 04/08/24 6:55:30 AM #39: |
Trying that ball as hard as you can thousands of times for years is a great way to wear down your cartilage and...*shudders*
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 04/08/24 7:06:40 AM #40: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Tennis is also particularly bad with shoulder injuries. I played tennis from about 8 until the end of college and my right knee and shoulder are doneI once read a book where the writer said this: "I played tennis every day for the next twenty-four years until I woke up one morning and couldn't brush my teeth with my right hand because of the pain in my elbow and wrist, put there by the fact I had played tennis every day for the last twenty-four years." ^_^ --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninjaman44 04/08/24 6:05:20 PM #41: |
Yeah it's now expected of every pitcher to consistently throw over 90mph. It's an extremely unhealthy standard, to the point where tearing your UCL is pretty much guaranteed to happen, and any time a young pitcher comes up who hasn't gotten Tommy John surgery, everyone's just waiting for the inevitable injury and hoping it happens sooner rather than later. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir_Will 04/08/24 11:47:19 PM #42: |
ninjaman44 posted...
Yeah it's now expected of every pitcher to consistently throw over 90mph. It's an extremely unhealthy standard, to the point where tearing your UCL is pretty much guaranteed to happen, and any time a young pitcher comes up who hasn't gotten Tommy John surgery, everyone's just waiting for the inevitable injury and hoping it happens sooner rather than later.That is horrific. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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