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Kradek
04/20/24 8:28:15 PM
#101:


ROBANN_88 posted...
fucking finally

how did they get that one guy who somehow had all the power to block it to finally relent?

Was hearing an expert on the subject yesterday talk about how it was likely due to Christian nationalist influence coming from Ukrainian Christian extremists. He kept citing this one particular Ukrainian Christian nationalist who has been increasing his presence and reputation on both the world stage, but more important with the U.S. Congress. Believe he's associated with the Ukrainian Prayer Breakfast.

He believes pressure from both U.S. evangelical extremists and Ukrainian pushed him into changing his stance.

Keep in mind, the reason most of these Republicans are rallying behind Russia as some "defender of Christianity" as they see their bigotry towards the LGBTQ community as "defending Christian values", even though Putin is very clearly not doing it for personally religious reasons.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/20/24 8:29:48 PM
#102:


Trump finally relented after they added to the bill Ukraine has to payback the money as a loan now
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Kradek
04/20/24 8:30:08 PM
#103:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
Trump finally relented after they added to the bill Ukraine has to payback the money as a loan now

That was his idea though.

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Xenogears15
04/20/24 8:33:17 PM
#104:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
should fund ukraine till sept 2025 so no more bullshit from the traitor republicans

IF Biden wins and Dems take the House later this year.

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Jordan_AS
04/20/24 8:43:30 PM
#105:


It took so long to get them more aid I'm sure they'll need more sooner than later, but this will hopefully halt the small amount of momentum Russia has been gaining until the election is over.

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SgtBash
04/21/24 3:56:05 AM
#106:


Hopefully Ukraine can turn the tide and punish Russia for it's ruthless aggression

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CADE_FOSTER
04/21/24 12:37:47 PM
#107:


Did you know we tried to buy soviet era military equipment from ecuador to send to ukraine but then russia found out and threatened to stop buying bananas from ecuador 95% of russias bananas come from ecuador so ecuador backed out
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darkace77450
04/21/24 5:05:35 PM
#108:


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4608004-buck-takes-swing-moscow-marjorie-mouthing-russian-propaganda/

Moscow Marjorie has reached a new low, Buck said in an interview on CNNs Erin Burnett OutFront with anchor Erica Hill. You know, during the Russian Revolution, [Bolshevik Revolution leader Vladimir] Lenin talked about American journalists who were writing glowing reports about Russia at the time as useful idiots.

And I dont even think that Marjorie reaches that level of being a useful idiot here, Buck continued. She is just mouthing the Russian propaganda, and really hurting American foreign policy in the process.
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CADE_FOSTER
04/21/24 11:17:38 PM
#110:


nah dudes an evil dictator like putin
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CADE_FOSTER
04/21/24 11:21:13 PM
#112:


he is still aligned with putin anything we do for them he gonna share with russia pass
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Humble_Novice
04/22/24 3:31:09 AM
#113:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-vote-billions-dollars-russian-171522083.html

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Tora_Sami
04/22/24 8:32:00 AM
#114:


That's some crazy shit. Had no idea we could even do that.

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divot1338
04/22/24 8:38:16 AM
#115:


Tora_Sami posted...
That's some crazy shit. Had no idea we could even do that.
Asset forfeiture only its used in a not fucked up way.

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-Crissaegrim-
04/22/24 8:38:23 AM
#116:


Tora_Sami posted...
That's some crazy shit. Had no idea we could even do that.

I thought they already had seized Russian money/assets to do stuff like this.

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Xenogears15
04/22/24 9:34:25 AM
#117:


-Crissaegrim- posted...
I thought they already had seized Russian money/assets to do stuff like this.

Siezed, but not used.

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Modifier
04/22/24 9:46:01 AM
#118:


Stealing other countries assets is a good way to fuck up the system. I approve.

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conduit
04/22/24 12:06:14 PM
#119:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


The Gulf states turned against Assad in 2009 when he rejected the Qatari pipeline deal and began working on an Iranian pipeline instead. Assad is still too close to Russia and Iran.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/24/24 3:44:44 AM
#121:


me to Russia is gonna be sanctioned forever use all the assets they have seized fuck em give every dime to Ukraine
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Humble_Novice
04/24/24 3:02:26 PM
#122:


https://twitter.com/Fomechka/status/1781940339957186618
https://twitter.com/ForsigeNews/status/1780361058328215773
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1781999504658428065
https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1781510644950335831
https://twitter.com/tweetforAnna/status/1783070294489309330

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Jordan_AS
04/24/24 3:41:27 PM
#123:


Lol, Russia didn't have a plan B if more aid went through? Get fucked.

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streamofthesky
04/24/24 3:44:54 PM
#124:


Jordan_AS posted...
Lol, Russia didn't have a plan B if more aid went through? Get fucked.

Just imagine the panic in Putin's circle when God Slayer Dark Brandon wins a 2nd term and (hopefully) the House and retains the Senate.
It's so fucking transparent that their entire strategy is to wait things out until Trump is back in office to dismantle all US aid to Ukraine.
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Jordan_AS
04/24/24 3:50:44 PM
#125:


Setting aside any other feelings I have about Trump or Biden, I hope Biden wins for that reason alone. I heard Sunak say the UK is shifting to a wartime footing so things are only gonna get worse for Putin from here.

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Sir_Will
04/24/24 3:58:55 PM
#126:


Have to see if Labour follows through on that since Sunak's days are numbered.

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Xenogears15
04/24/24 4:00:30 PM
#127:


Sir_Will posted...
Have to see if Labour follows through on that since Sunak's days are numbered.

So long as Corbyn isn't the next PM, I believe they will.

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Trelve
04/24/24 4:05:49 PM
#128:


Sir_Will posted...
Have to see if Labour follows through on that since Sunak's days are numbered.
Starmer said that they'll also be allocating 2.5% of GDP to defense, when economic conditions allow.
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CADE_FOSTER
04/24/24 5:18:32 PM
#129:


Jordan_AS posted...
Lol, Russia didn't have a plan B if more aid went through? Get fucked.

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Sir_Will
04/25/24 1:50:23 AM
#132:


The occupied areas are going to be uninhabitable for so long. Everything's destroyed and there's mines everywhere.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/25/24 2:13:51 AM
#133:


Sir_Will posted...
The occupied areas are going to be uninhabitable for so long. Everything's destroyed and there's mines everywhere.
For a country that claims to want Ukraine they seem ok with destroying all of it
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GranAures
04/25/24 4:57:19 AM
#134:


Jordan_AS posted...
Lol, Russia didn't have a plan B if more aid went through? Get fucked.
All Russia has is a Plan B. B meaning bodies.

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videospirit
04/25/24 12:38:54 PM
#135:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
For a country that claims to want Ukraine they seem ok with destroying all of it

They don't give a shit about the population of ukraine, they just want the natural resources.

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streamofthesky
04/25/24 5:19:04 PM
#136:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lakdZIuZe7c

A pretty sobering look at the rest of this decade and where the war could lead. Important reminder for people about how necessary it is to stop Russia dead in its tracks now in Ukraine, for literally the peace of the rest of Europe and quite likely Taiwain. And what's at stake this November if we let Trump back into power. Real Life Lore tries to avoid getting into politics too much normally, so it's especially stark how deep he goes into the horrors for the entire world that a 2nd Trump term would yield.

If nothing else, skip to around 23:00 in the video.
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Kaiganeer
04/26/24 12:28:13 AM
#137:


russia has been making small gains for a while now and are potentially gearing up for a breakthrough. ukraine is exhausted, both in terms of remaining weaponry and manpower, with their public sentiment turning negative towards lowering the mobilization age from 27 to 25

basically, russia's war of attrition is working because the west can't get its shit together. not just the US with its political circus crippling weapons aid but also with several european countries trying to get away with contributing as little as possible and refusing to bolster arms manufacturing because even after two years of this crap, they're still not taking it seriously enough and are more concerned with the economic ramifications than the civilian lives lost

scholz is a bitch, macron is all talk and meloni would like nothing more than to spitshine vladdy's asshole given the chance

but at least they'll stand there and look solemn next to zelensky for a photo-op every now and then
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Humble_Novice
04/26/24 8:30:59 AM
#139:


https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/1cdjb1p/russian_war_heroes_who_fought_in_russias_invasion/

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Humble_Novice
04/26/24 1:22:42 PM
#140:


https://twitter.com/CLister5/status/1783741894226219257
https://twitter.com/TOGAjano21/status/1783405180253303024
https://twitter.com/tweetforAnna/status/1783051825324716504
https://twitter.com/tweetforAnna/status/1783175346713473114

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texanfan27
04/26/24 1:38:09 PM
#141:


damned if we, damned if we dont. We help out Ukraine more or get fully involved, Russia threatens nukes and might be crazy/desperate enough to use one.

if we dont get involve, Ukraine is gone and Russia just rebuilds till their next attack like this.

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Thompson
04/26/24 2:49:00 PM
#142:


What should we call a Russian tank pretending to be garden shed?
A Bobrikov Semplev tank?

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Humble_Novice
04/26/24 3:12:14 PM
#143:


https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1783883575474946467

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-Crissaegrim-
04/26/24 3:49:01 PM
#144:


texanfan27 posted...
damned if we, damned if we dont. We help out Ukraine more or get fully involved, Russia threatens nukes and might be crazy/desperate enough to use one.

if we dont get involve, Ukraine is gone and Russia just rebuilds till their next attack like this.

I think in this case the only thing you can do is to not let them win. You let them take Ukraine and get stronger and then in another decade or so they start moving in on the other former Soviet nations the same way. They won't stop. And everytime they end up in a better position to act on their threats.

You can't negotiate with them either because anyone who makes peace with them or surrenders after initially challenging them ends up dead somehow.

There's no other option to exhaust other than to totally fucking defeat them.

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Humble_Novice
04/26/24 3:49:49 PM
#145:


-Crissaegrim- posted...
I think in this case the only thing you can do is to not let them win. You let them take Ukraine and get stronger and then in another decade or so they start moving in on the other former Soviet nations the same way. They won't stop. And everytime they end up in a better position to act on their threats.

You can't negotiate with them either because anyone who makes peace with them or surrenders after initially challenging them ends up dead somehow.

There's no other option to exhaust other than to totally fucking defeat them.
Agreed. There is no other option left to play here.

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streamofthesky
04/26/24 6:02:24 PM
#146:


-Crissaegrim- posted...
I think in this case the only thing you can do is to not let them win. You let them take Ukraine and get stronger and then in another decade or so they start moving in on the other former Soviet nations the same way. They won't stop. And everytime they end up in a better position to act on their threats.

You can't negotiate with them either because anyone who makes peace with them or surrenders after initially challenging them ends up dead somehow.

There's no other option to exhaust other than to totally fucking defeat them.

A decade is extremely optimistic. In this video, RLL lays out a much shorter timeline, if Trump wins this November:

  • Trump immediately ceases all aid to Ukraine and even worse, ends all the economic sanctions holding back their production. He also possibly throws wrenches into other efforts
  • Ukraine, facing an infinite number of hired bodies from poor countries around Russia (which they're already doing), has no choice but to accept a sham peace agreement that gives up their entire coastline, restricts their military to a paltry size, and inserts a puppet leader
  • A few years later (by 2027 or sooner), Russia moves to annex Moldova and (if Ukraine resists) the rest of Ukraine. Then conquers majority Russian towns along its border in the Baltic states, to test NATO's willingness to enact Article 5 "just to save a few towns", and w/ the Trump-led US emphatically doing nothing (Trump can technically meet the requirements of A5 by just sending them some helmets and med kits)
  • China, which due to aging population will be on the decline after 2027 and thus eager to act, will attack Taiwan in concert w/ Russia invading all of the Baltic states, to further split NATO's attention
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Sir_Will
04/27/24 1:47:57 AM
#147:


They're not going to use nukes.

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thronedfire2
04/27/24 8:25:04 PM
#149:


Sir_Will posted...
They're not going to use nukes.

they weren't going to invade Ukraine either, remember?

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CADE_FOSTER
04/27/24 8:32:01 PM
#150:


Sir_Will posted...
They're not going to use nukes.
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