Board 8 > CYOF Mafia Day 4

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You would lose the game again, yes.

I on the other hand would never lynch you again because I know you were town.

That's the difference between us.

You see virtue in your mistakes, whereas I can acknowledge "I fucked that up" and try to improve instead of you, who is okay making mistakes.

Like I said, I knew you would breathe copium in and hey, I lynched you so I get it.

Oh it's over

You know I'm town till you don't

All I am saying is I can see where i went wrong and where I could improve, you should be able to do the same.

You mocked my corrik/sbell team thought and pushed me for it.

i was right

You ask me to cook day 3 and when i did correctly you called me a wolf for it

sorry man lol

like I didnt have a lot of energy day 3, but I tried to solve and when I did correctly you said it outed me

thats on you king

I only ever managed to skim the game but roles looked super fun.

I asked for setup some days ago but when IGCD asked if I was sure I wouldn't say yes to a hydra ability getting me into the game I hesitated and thus was not informed. Don't think that ever happened though?

Anyway I think pretty much everyone had a bad game but pointing fingers and saying you had a good one is incorrect

I didn't say I had a good game, I said i had a good day 4 and noted that you continuing to tunnel me was -ev for town and asking you to keep that in mind in the future.

Lopen posted...

Anyway

Sbell and Corrik?

This is a filth POE. You want us to believe there was a town mislynch at this stage of the game and both scum stayed off?

Chris is caught here pretty much. You are dismissed young man.

Actually I guess I had a good back half of day 3 too but someone was being mean about my poe

It is w/only 2 scum left tbh

Balance wasn't as bad as it looked while playing

ctesjbuvf posted...

I only ever managed to skim the game but roles looked super fun.

I asked for setup some days ago but when IGCD asked if I was sure I wouldn't say yes to a hydra ability getting me into the game I hesitated and thus was not informed. Don't think that ever happened though?

No Corrik was the only player to not even try and use his ability.

I really don't care to say anything more than I don't care in any shape or form.

This game was the exact opposite of fun for me - at no fault of the host - and my wholly unnecessary vig death has completely killed my interest in ever playing here again. I still have no clue whatsoever what I even did to get targeted when I was obvtown; there's a reason I guessed Lea was 100% scum upon entering DTC because her actions made zero sense coming from town. Her alignment was one of the biggest surprises I've ever encountered playing Mafia.

But yeah, I was hoping to have some fun with this role, and I didn't get to for no reason whatsoever. I am very disappointed and have decided to move on with my life.

Since I at least enjoyed watching, I will stick around to co-host/offer feedback on setup/watch, but that's about it.

Don't listen to Lopen, Chris. You did fine.

Besides, only one of you remotely suspected Corrik and tried to pressure him lol

I can't even say the vig shot on me was bad because I was slated for a mislynch the next day anyway. That's on me for being scummy, but in all honesty, the only shot that could've been more optimal that night would have been a dead scum. Otherwise, killing me off was the right play imo

These roles were awesome, though. Good stuff, IGCD! ggs and thanks for hosting!

BlueCrystalTear posted...

I really don't care to say anything more than I don't care in any shape or form.

This game was the exact opposite of fun for me - at no fault of the host - and my wholly unnecessary vig death has completely killed my interest in ever playing here again. I still have no clue whatsoever what I even did to get targeted when I was obvtown; there's a reason I guessed Lea was 100% scum upon entering DTC because her actions made zero sense coming from town. Her alignment was one of the biggest surprises I've ever encountered playing Mafia.

But yeah, I was hoping to have some fun with this role, and I didn't get to for no reason whatsoever. I am very disappointed and have decided to move on with my life.

Since I at least enjoyed watching, I will stick around to co-host/offer feedback on setup/watch, but that's about it.

This is sad I thought you actually played rather well town was being stupid

You know mafia doesn't really work if town is never allowed to be wrong which fortunately everyone is some times.

ctesjbuvf posted...

You know mafia doesn't really work if town is never allowed to be wrong which fortunately everyone is some times.

^This.

Y'all need to chill about townies being wrong. I'm pretty sure the list of people suspecting me up until my death was 80% town, but like, that's just what happens. I'm not gonna give people shit for being wrong.

Except for Lopen. Overconfidence to the point of drowning everybody out to push your own inflexible reads... only to be completely wrong about the scum team is just too priceless lol

I think most people thought BCT was most likely town but Lea had the gun

I could have had her shoot Corrik instead though. Unfortunately thought they were both town

Kirby321 posted...

Except for Lopen. Overconfidence to the point of drowning everybody out to push your own inflexible reads... only to be completely wrong about the scum team is just too priceless lol

I don't think that's really what happened but ok

bct who cares why you got killed. Jesus. if every time you get mislynched/miskilled you're gunna whine about it then no one is gunna wanna play with you anyway. How many games do you need to play in before you just have fun?

Good game. Thanks for the kind words Chris. My day one was quite nice.

I have a feeling I get like spite Lynched or policy lynched next game

That was about me having no fun and no answers. It's not healthy for me. That's all.

Anyway I'm sorry if this game wasn't fun for people

I still had fun and honestly had no intention to attack Chris for a bad game until he started attacking me first

Chris being better equipped to solve the game is meaningless given he was the main mislynch on the board for good reason he led like 2 mislynches and shot a guy he thought was town and blamed one of his mislynches for it

Yes he had a better idea of who the scum were. Being able to remove yourself from the POE when you played a super scummy game is actually helpful for solving

So yes I'd vote him again. This isn't me being stubborn this is me saying there was no reason to townread him and if town is going to play like that I'm going to be wrong a lot. And so will other town. The only reason Chris had difficulty getting votes is 3/6 living people were scum.

I don't even think I played a super scummy game, I just didn't have the energy to backread a lot.

When I was here I was trying to shield wallz/mzero a lot which was the correct thing to do. I told Lea not to shoot BCT as well. Now was I wrong a lot on who to kill? Yeah a bit, but being wrong isn't inherently scummy. In fact I'd say the worst play day 3 was probably FD ending day for ??? reasons. Like I probably could have been convinced to unvote, I wasn't done evaluating when I left lol

you're free to do what you want in the future, im not in a bad mood or anything.

Like obviously I didnt have my best game or anything, but I apparently was also very close from doccing the correct person last night if not for the fact that they feared mzero could self-save.

Shrug, I expected this from you though so its fine.

You're putting way too much stock into the "shot a guy he thought he was town" thing. Let's be real, if Chris didn't shoot me, you would've campaigned for my mislynch the very next day. I was never high up on Chris's list of townreads anyway, so if he wasn't feeling very confident about a shot, why not go for the guy that everybody thinks is scum? It makes perfect sense to me, and I don't think Chris being wrong there should be held against him.

It was a logical choice that happened to be wrong. Oh well. Chris claimed the kill immediately and was honest about it. Scum wouldn't have even killed me, let alone claim the kill at all. It's incredible how that fact kept getting swept under the rug in order to justify some half-baked, pre-conceived conclusion that Chris was scum. Putting the cart before the horse to the extreme, honestly.

You had a horrendous town game, Lopen. Suck it up and quit whining about Chris.

oh

Kirby321 posted...

Let's be real, if Chris didn't shoot me, you would've campaigned for my mislynch the very next day

If he's just going to lynch me the next day there's no point in lowering my POE is the point. He should just shoot who he thinks is scum. I actually thought it was a good shot if he was sure I was town and wanted me to do something productive the next day

Using it as food to lynch me and trying to blame it all on me is just him doing exactly what he (wrongly) accuses me of. Super bad play.

Lopen posted...

If he's just going to lynch me the next day there's no point in lowering my POE is the point. He should just shoot who he thinks is scum. I actually thought it was a good shot if he was sure I was town and wanted me to do something productive the next day

Using it as food to lynch me and trying to blame it all on me is just him doing exactly what he (wrongly) accuses me of. Super bad play.

The problem for me was you followed up with suspecting two people I thought were town in wallz and mzero. I was right on both. I voted for you but I wasn't done evaluating either. FD for some ungodly reason thought it was a good idea to end day early.

Basically I thought you were town and wanted you to do something the next day. I then see you continue to focus on players I tr'd and it was like "I don't think I can trust lopen anymore" because you kept shooting blanks man.

Like, this is the difference between us like I said. I can admit I shouldn't have given into paranoia on you but you'll defend your bad play for all of time. I shot Kirby and asked you to cook and you cooked me a 'kill these very towny people' soup. I cooked and I ave you two scum. Day 3, mind you. This wasn't MYLO yet this was before you were flipped and I was trying to solve with you.

I was wrong early but once I thought you were town again I got to the right place. You tunneled me for it. gg maybe next time.

Like you can't say I was controlling any lynches for as much as you wanted

Death was me compromising and going with Chris
Ulti was scanned
Lea didn't listen to me who to shoot at all
Chris then lynched me

Yeah I helped get Chris lynched day 4 but acting like I was driving town into bad plays is a huge misrepresentation of what actually happened

SirChris posted...

I was wrong early but once I thought you were town again I got to the right place. You tunneled me for it. gg maybe next time.

I didn't tunnel you till you lynched me my guy

Lopen posted...

I didn't tunnel you till you lynched me my guy

yes but why? I cooked after that, and correctly

if I tunneled everyone who incorrectly suspected me it'd never end.

Be better my guy.

Basically that's the skill issue. You asked me to solve with you after fd murdered you, and I did, and you said it was a bad poe but no, I got scum

like. Shrug. I made a mistake and then cooked. You didn't want to eat it.

Damn my only read on ulti being scum was right. I did pretty well this game.

but also I understand that I chopped you so I am understanding.

No one else will be though.

SirChris posted...

You asked me to solve with you after fd murdered you, and I did

No you didn't

If you put 1/4 the effort into day 3 when I was dead as you did into day 4 I would have thought you were town

If you want an idea of what effort looks like when I was dying, look at wall

Lopen posted...

No you didn't

If you put 1/4 the effort into day 3 when I was dead as you did into day 4 I would have thought you were town

If you want an idea of what effort looks like when I was dying, look at wall

again, sorry for having health issues.

Like uh, I reviewed some things and were like huh a lot of people seem towny, could it just be the people hanging back and you bludgeoned me to death with it so much that I felt stupid for suggesting it lol.

Like any time people asked why chris you were like WOW LOOK AT THIS SHIT POE LOL LOL. Which hey fair if I am wrong but... ... ... I wasn't so yeah.

Sorry if not having the energy to meet your unrealistic standards is a scumtell for you, clearly its not actually one since you're now 0/2 on tunneling me but again. I expect this from you. Everyone expects this from you. So yeah, gg Lopen maybe next time.

It was a shit poe with 2 scum remaining though

Amusingly you were the guy who shot down 5 scum setup

Lopen posted...

It was a shit poe with 2 scum remaining though

Amusingly you were the guy who shot down 5 scum setup

IGCD admitted he fucked up the math and it was originally 4/15 lmao.

Also it was not a shit poe for 4 scum because they were scum.

ez pz

Like the whole reason I said the poe was shit was it assumed a late game town lynch had zero scum on it

If you did Sultan x Corrik or Sultan x Sbell -- actually not a shit POE.

Day 3 had next to no posts and no activity. Less than a page of posts in 24+ hours. Then I pulled the trigger and 4+ pages materialized. Let's not pretend like we were on a high speed rail to victory. My vote didn't count for two if it was laid early, it could only be used as the final two nails in a lynch that already had momentum. For better or worse Lopen has momentum and he was either scum or town who was loud wrong.

Though as it turns out he was loud wrong town who got to CONTINUE to be loud wrong town even after his death.

It was a fun game and an interesting exercise in role-playing, would do it again.

You'd think after multiple post-game chats where Lopen is openly beefing with another player, you'd think he'd figure out what the common link there was lol

I don't start the beef, Kirby

I think people just like trying to feel better about themselves and the guy who is trying to win is an easy target to rag on

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Day 3 had next to no posts and no activity. Less than a page of posts in 24+ hours. Then I pulled the trigger and 4+ pages materialized. Let's not pretend like we were on a high speed rail to victory. My vote didn't count for two if it was laid early, it could only be used as the final two nails in a lynch that already had momentum. For better or worse Lopen has momentum and he was either scum or town who was loud wrong.

Though as it turns out he was loud wrong town who got to CONTINUE to be loud wrong town even after his death.

It was a fun game and an interesting exercise in role-playing, would do it again.

no.

just no, FD.

Sorry man but there was little to gain from ending the lynch early there. It was quiet in part because I was sleeping for most of the day due to not feeling well.

Same speech to lopen, don't make excuses for bad play. I don't. I was wrong on lopen as well. But ending day early is anti-town. always will be anti town unless you've got like a scan or something. Let things be discussed naturally.

SirChris posted...

I don't.

Uh huh

Day lasted the same 48 hours. What magic communication that was going to unlock the game did we lose access to?

neat game, some of the powers were super cool!

genuinely very funny to see lopen get the most lopen role of all time. i was curious as to whether he was required to quote entire posts or if he could just partially quote posts, but i assumed it was the former.

I'll ignore the health thing because you know, fair

SirChris posted...

I could basically only exclusively do conspiracy theories and zany ideas if i wanted powers.

SirChris posted...

sorry FD hammered you when I was away?

And last game was you whining about not being able to ISO all game

But yeah, no excuses ever

changmas posted...

but i assumed it was the former.

It was yeah