Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 412: A Bad Deal on the Good Book

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I mean everyone knew it was him, but it was never...legally verified.

I think it was more or less proved somehow by him fucking up a few times not switching accounts, but he certainly never copped to it until now.

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1778808441391206749?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ



Remember when Obama basically made peace with Iran and then Republicans (and Israel) were like We have no proof, the UN inspectors found no evidence, but theyre enriching uranium for nukes and blew it all up?

The Art of the Deal?

https://news.yahoo.com/louisiana-high-court-deals-devastating-174750928.html

So yeah, Louisiana sucks.

hell yeah we do

abortion's in the news lately as well, so I'm guessing we just made that issue worse too

That issue is actually somewhat nuanced. California passed a similar kind of "lookback" period for sexual crimes to be brought forward though in our case it was by the end of 2022, and someone made a claim against the pastor of my church, a claim that literally was not possible. The allegation was that my pastor committed abuse against this John Doe before he even moved to california or lived in the town in question or pastored at the church that the abuse allegedly occurred in (and actually at that point the church was located in a different part of town). Not only was it false, but there's no physical way for it to have been true. But if you are spamming allegations (presumably in hopes for a quiet settlement??) then I guess you don't care about any of that, and that's what this guy seemed to be doing.

But every step of the process involved delays, largely waiting on the plaintiff (or his counsel) to actually provide any kind of substantive information. But it was a whole lot of "plaintiff and lawyer did not show up for court appearance, reschedule in 6 weeks". "Still no word from plaintiff, reschedule in 6 weeks". "Plaintiff's lawyer dropped plaintiff and now plaintiff needs additional time to find new representation, reschedule in 6 weeks". All in all the process took over a year and my pastor paid tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees that he will not get back, even now that the case was dismissed WITHOUT prejudice.

Now why his lawyers (who I guess he was referred to by the church district? idk) required so much money for not having to actually do anything? That I don't know. I'm guessing the entire process could have been handled much more cost effectively, but the big winners in the whole equation were the legal counsel so maybe they weren't incentivized to speed the process along, but the entire situation was shitty and basically put him half of his annual salary in the hole.

This isn't a situation where he discussed the issue from the pulpit to seek out financial assistance or anything. It's something I found out about because I'm family friends with the pastor and his kids so I only knew about it from other channels. Once I found out about it I pulled up all the civil court documents because they are public record so I could follow along with the case' progress throughout the year.

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Which is all to say that people who have been the victim of sexual crimes should absolutely be given the opportunity to have their day in court, but it's also a system that I have personally seen abused. And the man who filed the false suit? Nothing will happen to him. My pastor could potentially file countersuit for legal fees/damages, but then he'll be out even MORE lawyer fees only for a judgement to be levied against someone who realistically will never be able to pay off the debt. It just sucked all around.

https://twitter.com/seamus_malek/status/1778910466120806607?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NW

lmao

Well, cool

Hope I won't die tonight

Sounds like Iran has launched its retaliatory strike against Israel - reportedly dozens of drones (that are still inbound) and possibly cruise missiles.

https://twitter.com/NSC_Spox/status/1779248277994561594

I really, really, really don't want a all-out war
But this could be a golden opportunity to put an end to the Iranian threat
And hopefully free the Iranian civillians from the IRGC

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-hamas-war/?id=108860743

Per ABC News

• Israeli military source has told them Iran has targeted military sites only, not civilian.
• Their arrival estimate on the drones has been moved up to 1 AM local time (6 PM ET/20 minutes from now)
• US thinks 400-500 drones: launched from Iraq, Syria, southern Lebanon, and the Houthis but that most are from Iran
• Iran itself is claiming missiles are part of it. Israeli source says cruise missiles.

https://twitter.com/ettingermentum/status/1779238564909215911?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-04-13-24/index.html

Per CNN (well mostly I was waiting for them to confirm this because I saw the Iran UN Tweet but Twitter is such a hellhole now I can't be sure how reliable it actually was):

Iran's mission to the UN is saying this attack is a response to Israel bombing the Iranian embassy in Syria and that "the matter can be deemed concluded."

If so, then barring any further escalation, this should hopefully be it.

Thorn posted...

Iran's mission to the UN is saying this attack is a response to Israel bombing the Iranian embassy in Syria and that "the matter can be deemed concluded."

Oh yes I'm sure it's all over now. Why would Isreal respond to an attack on them in any way?

Nanis23 posted...

I really, really, really don't want a all-out war
But this could be a golden opportunity to put an end to the Iranian threat
And hopefully free the Iranian civillians from the IRGC

not your job

Maniac64 posted...

Oh yes I'm sure it's all over now. Why would Isreal respond to an attack on them in any way?

An attack on them? It was a response to an act they did.

Again, want to point out that the Iranian threat is entirely the fault of warmongers.

this could be a golden opportunity to free the iraqi civillians from saddam hussein

this could be a golden opportunity to free afghani civilians from the soviets

this could be a golden opportunity to free vietnam from red china

ivysnow posted...

not your job

True
I really couldn't care less about liberating them, it's just a bonus

Khamenei and the rest of his friends need to be sent to hell

not your job

"Let's start World War III. What harm could it do?"

surely THIS episode of military adventurism will be the one that has no negative consequences and brings stability to the region

95 percent of imperialists stop just before they permanently pacify the barbarian hordes

they say the definition of insanity is repeating the same option over and over again and expecting different results. but hear me out - there's no way they'll expect me to do it again

Nanis23 posted...

True
I really couldn't care less about liberating them, it's just a bonus

Khamenei and the rest of his friends need to be sent to hell

You could literally say the same thing about Netanyahu, would that move the world closer or further to peace, yes or no?

have you considered that the guys i don't like are the only remaining obstacle to an eternal golden age of peace and harmony

i had the boys in the lab run the numbers and i've been assured that the slaughter of my enemies will justify any amount of human suffering

Ivy you're probably gonna end up warned for spam and he isn't worth it.

yeah probably

ivysnow posted...

surely THIS episode of military adventurism will be the one that has no negative consequences and brings stability to the region

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0495506c.png

ivysnow posted...

not your job

Well let's see.
Israel is under threats from Iran for about 20 years or so
Iran directly funds and control Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houtis and more militia groups in Iraq and Syria, all of them directly attacking Israel.

If it isn't our job to put an to this threat, whose job is it?

https://twitter.com/lbjfancamcoop/status/1779262898314903675

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

You could literally say the same thing about Netanyahu, would that move the world closer or further to peace, yes or no?

No because the Arab's people with Israel isn't Netanyhu, it's Israel existence.

This was mentioned earlier but isnt it super cool how the Iran issue was basically solved then one guy cane in and tore that all up because he didnt like that Obama made fun of him once.

probably because less that 100 years ago, instead of actually trying to make things better for the jewish people in europe, the european powers and an extremist organization decided it was a better idea to shunt a massive number of foreign people into what became an aggressively expansionist ethnostate on already inhabited land

LightningStrikes posted...

This was mentioned earlier but isnt it super cool how the Iran issue was basically solved then one guy cane in and tore that all up because he didnt like that Obama made fun of him once.

I'm not sure any other Republican would have handled it differently.

All of this could have been avoided though if we had just let Iran be a democracy. I mean all the spreading of democracy we did at the time, you'd think we wouldn't have also been overthrowing them!

LightningStrikes posted...

the Iran issue was basically solved

Are you really that naive?

Theres nothing naive at looking at the arc of events and going huh things were improving until people deliberately stopped trying. Whats naive is pretending that nothing could have been done.

Dancedreamer posted...

All of this could have been avoided though if we had just let Iran be a democracy. I mean all the spreading of democracy we did at the time, you'd think we wouldn't have also been overthrowing them!

Spreading democracy? Pretty sure the US was all about overthrowing democratic governments back then.

Not_an_Owl posted...

https://twitter.com/lbjfancamcoop/status/1779262898314903675

I dropped by to make sure this was here. Carry on everyone.

Maniac64 posted...

Oh yes I'm sure it's all over now. Why would Isreal respond to an attack on them in any way?

Well, yes. I'm sure there will be a response to this, but I thought it was worth mentioning in the sense that it suggested that Iran didn't plan to go any further than this massive drone/missile operation - that this wasn't just an opening salvo in an extended campaign or something.

Some updates:

Per NYT:

• Israeli source tells them it was 185 drones, 36 cruise missiles, and 110 surface-to-surface missiles: 331 objects in total. Most from Iran, some from Iraq and Yemen.
• Only known injury at the moment is a 10-year old girl from an Arab Bedouin community, injured by shrapnel. (Though CNN says that the report was updated to say she was 7. IDK who is right but CNN sounds more current?)

Per CNN:

• Biden told Netanyahu that the attack being largely unsuccessful should be taken as a win.
• Biden also told Netanyahu that the US will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran.
• Naturally, the old neocon warhawk squad wants war - John Bolton already saber-rattling

Nanis23 posted...

Are you really that naive?

They opened their facilities to international inspectors who never once found evidence of wrongdoing, but youre right its much less naive to instead believe chickenhawks and right wing news hosts.

Has Iran done awful things since the deal was exploded? Yes! And whose fucking fault is that? We literally traded away our ability to peacefully inspect and do diplomacy in exchange for jackshit, making the region objectively more volatile.

Not_an_Owl posted...

https://twitter.com/lbjfancamcoop/status/1779262898314903675

The chaser:

https://twitter.com/TrevorSutcliffe/status/1779341455720620154

https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1779296844197273747

https://twitter.com/grylxndr/status/1779564517048934710?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

Hell yeah Joe.

holy carp biden did an israel thing I actually like

https://twitter.com/ArmandDoma/status/1779926854520238492

sorry guys we've got a complete and total shutdown on politics on gamefaqs outside of CE (which now got locked down even tighter than LUE did) so this topic is now illegal

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/80747432

saves me the time of consolidating my observations and reports on trump's trial so far today to post here tho