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03/26/24 8:01:12 AM
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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 10:43:35 AM
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bpP2L9

This gets you 4k 60fps in FF7 Remake, which runs 4k 30ps on PS5

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VeggetaX
03/26/24 10:44:27 AM
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Where's the OS? The sound card?

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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 10:44:48 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
Where's the OS? The sound card?
Linux is free and the motherboard includes audio

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hereforemnant
03/26/24 10:45:30 AM
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That seems pretty good, but I don't need anything right now
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VeggetaX
03/26/24 10:45:52 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
the motherboard includes audio
It includes shitty audio

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pinky0926
03/26/24 10:45:56 AM
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I saw a video that tested the "build a PC for the same price as a PS5 but better" theory out and what you end up with is something that is about as good as a PS5 in pure performance, but physically twice as large, much louder and not well optimised.

The cheaper part is in the games and (lack of) subscription costs.

Yeah, turns out there's a reason why a lot of people prefer consoles. In fact there's a lot of these comparisons. I think PC gamers get blinkers when it comes to the real reasons why people prefer consoles.

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JasonSehorn
03/26/24 10:46:23 AM
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goomba stupid schtick still going strong
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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 10:47:31 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
It includes shitty audio
Motherboard audio is fine. This isn't the 90/00s anymore

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hyperpowder
03/26/24 10:48:22 AM
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You can build a PC better than PS5 for just $600

Yeah I hope so, since its $200 more than a PS5


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VeggetaX
03/26/24 10:48:47 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Motherboard audio is fine. This isn't the 90/00s anymore
Untrue

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Murphiroth
03/26/24 10:50:47 AM
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Yeah but then I'm in league with obnoxious folks like you and that's a price I'm not willing to pay.
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pinky0926
03/26/24 10:52:18 AM
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Here's the video if anyone is curious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M65G9fVx6k

I think my favourite thing about this video is that it is a very measured take by someone who isn't a cringe PCmastarace dork. He's like "yeah it's pretty good, but also kinda not".

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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 10:52:22 AM
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So do you play your consoles without a screen and sound?

KB+M is $20

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wrestlerman
03/26/24 10:55:26 AM
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No I cant

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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 10:55:33 AM
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So plug your PC into the TV

$20 kbm combos are still better than the Dualsense

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Unknown5uspect
03/26/24 10:56:10 AM
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Why did you add monitor and speakers like PCs don't connect to TVs?

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Dakimakura
03/26/24 10:56:33 AM
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PS5 Gamers cant even mod games rofllamoxD!!!!!!

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VeggetaX
03/26/24 10:56:47 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
So plug your PC into the TV
LOL

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tripleh213
03/26/24 10:57:13 AM
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Dakimakura posted...
PS5 Gamers cant even mod games rofllamoxD!!!!!!


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chris1001_the_sequel
03/26/24 10:57:50 AM
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Would love to see the data showing the PC version running at a consistent 4K60 at PS5 settings for FF VII Remake. I have a 3070 and it struggles with that.

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pinky0926
03/26/24 10:58:32 AM
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PC gamers when justifying PC vs consoles in argument: "you already have a tv plus you can get a kb+m for $20"

PC gamers when you ask for advice on your PC setup: You don't want to play PC on a TV, get at least a 1440p monitor for $200. And never cheap out on your kb+m either, set aside $100"

Guys, be real

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VeggetaX
03/26/24 11:00:45 AM
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You know who you're simping for right?

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pinky0926
03/26/24 11:01:03 AM
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Tbh it feels more like PC gamers literally never accept any upsides to console gaming, even though they should be pretty obvious

I have a custom PC, I have consoles, I have a nintendo switch. Turns out there are pros and cons to each of these mediums.

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Unknown5uspect
03/26/24 11:01:27 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
PC gamers when justifying PC vs consoles in argument: "you already have a tv plus you can get a kb+m for $20"

PC gamers when you ask for advice on your PC setup: You don't want to play PC on a TV, get at least a 1440p monitor for $200. And never cheap out on your kb+m either, set aside $100"

Guys, be real
Those are two nearly entirely different sets of people.

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hyperpowder
03/26/24 11:01:30 AM
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chris1001_the_sequel posted...
Would love to see the data showing the PC version running at a consistent 4K60 at PS5 settings for FF VII Remake. I have a 3070 and it struggles with that.


Im playing Dragons Dogma and it aint getting a consistent 4k 60 on my 4080.

So when I see these topics I automatically think bullshit


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Rexdragon125
03/26/24 11:03:01 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
Untrue
My Realtek motherboard audio has a built-in amp to drive my fancy headphones, they're fine. And this PC is from 2018
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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 11:03:33 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Tbh it feels more like PC gamers literally never accept any upsides to console gaming, even though they should be pretty obvious
They're not obvious to me. What are they

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VeggetaX
03/26/24 11:03:46 AM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
Those are two nearly entirely different sets of people.
Naw. They're the same people. They just pick which argument that fits the narrative depending on the situation.

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Murphiroth
03/26/24 11:04:48 AM
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TBF I think this is less about PC gaming and more about Marth just being annoying in general.
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Jupiter
03/26/24 11:05:59 AM
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I have consoles and a gaming PC. I primarily game on PC although there were periods where I would swap between console and PC. I do NOT bash console gaming. So it's always weird to me to see people bash PC gaming especially unprovoked. Yes, there are those who bash PC gaming as well, but I don't take them seriously either.

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pinky0926
03/26/24 11:07:22 AM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
Those are two nearly entirely different sets of people.

You sure? Because any time (on any PC building forum) i've said "This is my budget, what do you think about this build" the majority of responses are variations of "you should wait 3 months for X part to come out" or "swap Y part out for Z part, it's $100 more but so much more worth it".

I think enthusiasts in general (in any hobby) can have a pretty skewed perception about what is a reasonable amount of money/time/effort to spend. Which is maybe why some gamers have a hard time understanding why there are people who prefer console gaming or who don't see the value in spending hundreds of dollars more for a difference in fidelity/experience that could be considered marginal.

I know I bored the pants off my girlfriend when upgrading her TV to something 4k, and her only comment was "It's too big but I guess I can see it's a bit sharper?"

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pinky0926
03/26/24 11:08:40 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
They're not obvious to me. What are they

Here's all the time I spent optimising, researching, building and figuring out the optimal setup for my consoles:

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TMOG
03/26/24 11:10:59 AM
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Is this the part where we pretend the reverse isn't also true?
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TMOG
03/26/24 11:13:08 AM
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Lmao ok

I guess that's why "PC Master Race" was never a thing

Hell, your post DIRECTLY above mine is a perfect example
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pinky0926
03/26/24 11:13:33 AM
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Cheaper
Easier
Lighter
Quieter

I'm sorry but even in 2024 it's a ridiculous argument to say that PCs are as easy to set up. No they fucking aren't. Don't lie bro.

Yeah, consoles have updates. Updates that are 100% optimised for that console only, meaning you press a button and wait (or don't even press the button).

The reason PCs are better is because they are flexible. You can configure them, optimise them. This is also fundamentally why they are less robust.

You can't tell me that something is more flexible and more customisable and also tell me that it's easier and more stable. That is nonsense.

Finally, the "functionality" argument. I hate this one the most. Unless part of your function is CAD engineering or videography, the PC that you need for functionality may as well be something that was budget 10 years ago. Building a gaming PC and then trying to pass off that it's also functional for things other than gaming is like building a kit car and saying that it's also good for picking up the groceries. I'm not your wife, you don't need to explain to me your hobby purchases.

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ai123
03/26/24 11:14:12 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Linux is free and the motherboard includes audio
Yeah, I don't have to worry about installing shit and listening to crap audio on a PS5.

Most of all, I don't have to build it myself. Fine if you're into it, but just sounds like unnecessary arse-ache to me.

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Makeveli_lives
03/26/24 11:14:23 AM
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But I can get a PS5 bundle for 450 right now.

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loafy013
03/26/24 11:15:46 AM
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So since i don't care about 4k, 60fps, or the new FF7 game, I'm fine just sticking with my PS4 then.

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Dakimakura
03/26/24 11:17:05 AM
#49:


loafy013 posted...
So since i don't care about 4k, 60fps, or the new FF7 game, I'm fine just sticking with my PS4 then.

Staying with the PS4 instead of getting a PS5 will always be the better option.

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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 11:18:28 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Here's all the time I spent optimising, researching, building and figuring out the optimal setup for my consoles:
Not much of an upside if that's all

I don't put much thought into my PC build, and the enjoyment of optimizing it to be near silent even in demanding games is worth it.

Not being able to make the PS5 not loud as hell as is a major downside

pinky0926 posted...
Quieter
lol

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