Current Events > "I consciously add as much diversity as I can to my writing"

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I like how you can't be asked to play the game but still decide to hate it. They don't blurt out their backstory, you have to ask them about it.

So you completely skip over my post showing sources about how black cowboys made up anywhere between 1/4 to 1/3 of all cowboys (both outlaws and lawmen) and instead choose to reply to one where you can complain that the game wasn't racist enough towards black people

Interesting

Was it interracial gangs or black gangs and white gangs?

I know the James Gang and Billy the Kid's crew were mainly white

I can already tell you're assigning an opinion to me I don't have btw

I already posted my sources. Go back a page and click on them.

If a writer wants to do that, it's fine. Creative freedom, right?

And all of fiction is 'forced' by definition. It's not naturally occurring, it is writers using their skill with words to achieve the effects they intend. (Or not).

Bad writing is bad writing.

A character being gay, or black, or female, does not drain an author of their ability to portray characters.

Like for example I was just listening to Behind the Bastards talk about Hank Ketchem, the guy who did Dennis the Menace, and I learned that he tried adding a black character. The results definitely make me think he was better off not trying to add diversity.

The fact is if it weren't for writers like this what would we have left to shit on?

If you look at American films made before the Civil Rights Movement, diversity typically came in two categories: none at all or representations that were so poor that absentia would have been better.

The Dennis the Menace comic is from 1970, but it looks like something from the 1930s.

Don't think I've ever heard of spite virtue signaling. I'm sure the quality of this person's work is compleyely above reproach.

pretty chad quote right?

i still see some people getting pissed at minority finally showing up in high fantasy cuz to them it's unrealistic for a non white person to be in one but no not the dragons or fairy's those are totally realistic

Its a very frustrating view l. I used to think that this people were simply small-minded and only familiar high fantasy inspired from European settings, but now I think theyre all probably just closet racists at best.
Its one thing to regionalize ethnicities in a fantasy world (the Grishaverse is a good example of this), but the complete absence of them is nonsensical.

The vast majority of fantasy worlds do regionalize ethnicities. I can't think of any off the top of my head that are just a world full of white people.

Lord of the Rings?

Eh doesn't seem like a Chad quote to me. Chad doesn't need to explain himself.

People demand Shakespearean levels of characterization and plot integration for minorities while eagerly consuming every gruff, white, ex-special forces clich that gets thrown their way.

No one would be more thankful than me for a world where every character was superbly written, but in the meantime there is zero reason to set a higher bar for minority characters, or pretend that they are somehow special cases, beyond the competency of most authors.

Eh doesn't seem like a Chad quote to me. Chad doesn't need to explain himself.

There were darker skinned humans on Saurons side.

u have a strange idea of what chads are

Bad writing is bad writing.

A character being gay, or black, or female, does not drain an author of their ability to portray characters.

she isnt announcing her moves, she's responding to whining with the appropriate "fuck you" to nerds

Chad doesn't need to respond to nerds, he's too busy eating pussy

u have a strange idea of what chads are

What did we think of the diversity within the gang of RDR2?

Just using this as an example. As a history nerd I just couldn't wrap my head around a 19th century cowboy gang just "not seeing colour" like that and having a bunch of black guys in their gang. It didn't feel realistic.

Now does that overpower the need to give representation to various races because they don't feature enough generally in media? Probably not.

They would be likely be racist people IRL and I guess I think it downplays what the era was like to show a happy smiling "we believe in equality" style criminal gang.

There are more factors in play than it being a law. Movie, TV show and game producers get paid more if they add diversity than if they dont. Plus, only diverse productions are eligible to win awards.

There are more factors in play than it being a law. Movie, TV show and game producers get paid more if they add diversity than if they dont. Plus, only diverse productions are eligible to win awards.

There are more factors in play than it being a law. Movie, TV show and game producers get paid more if they add diversity than if they dont. Plus, only diverse productions are eligible to win awards.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bcd0cb09.jpg

• Asian
• Hispanic/Latinx
• Black/African AmericanIndigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
• Middle Eastern/North African
• Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
• Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing
• At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
• Asian
• Hispanic/Latinx
• Black/African American
• Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
• Middle Eastern/North African
• Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
• Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

I mean those characters tend to suck tho.

Like that Baldurs Gate character who just blurts out their entire life story about being transgender and the details of their transition the moment you meet them for literally no reason.

Resident Evil 4 would not be improved if for no reason at all Hunnigan just went "Oh btw I'm gay." over the headset while a zombie was biting off Leon's foot.

Just write the characters you want to write and have ideas for. If they're diverse, that's great. If they're not, fine.

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Yep that sure is a nice context-free and source-free copy/paste you have there that doesn't mention anything about pay increases or award eligibility and thus proves absolutely nothing about your claim.

Or were you just hoping that people would see a big wall-of-text and not actually read it?

This absolutely can compromise the quality if hamfisted

Even Saving Private Ryan back in the day I thought seemed a little too evenly distributed with it's stereotypes within the squad, the Bronx Italian, the Jewish one, the religious hick etc

Just felt too "neat"

The context is the British Film Institute standards.

The BFI is a charity, funded by government and the lottery. In order to receive certain film making grants from the BFI, you have to meet diversity standards in three out of five categories. Only one of which would result in a minority even appearing on screen.

So yeah, if you're making an indie British film, and looking for funding from this particular charity, you'll have fulfill some (not all) really basic diversity criteria.

That's what Mr Pearl Clutcher, with all of his characteristic honesty and integrity, has tried to spin as 'Movie, TV show and game producers get paid more if they add diversity than if they dont'.

They're always such lovely people, aren't they?